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Israeli ground forces seem ready to move into gaza.
 
in the last 2 weeks we have been getting constant random missile attacks in israel non stop by the hammas !

do you think we can nicely ask them to stop

do you expect us to keep living with missiles hitting our citizens every day

if someone would shoot missiles on paris for 2 weeks do you think they would not strike back

i dont say i greatly condone what the army here is doing but still we where in a cease fire they broke it and taunted israel for 2 weeks

trust me that any other country would have fired back with much more force we must minimize what we can do because of our standing in the world

but nevermind all of you its nice and easy to watch tv and cast your judgement as if you know exactly whats going on and theirs a plane and simple right and wrong situation going on here but your wrong

if you would live here you would know the hole truth something that the media will never gladly share
 
it is not a matter of who started it, it is a question of how it can all be stopped, from both sides.

what is the whole truth that the media don't show?
 
Razor29 a dit:
in the last 2 weeks we have been getting constant random missile attacks in israel non stop by the hammas !

Yes this is true and it should be mentioned that the palestinians would be alot better of without hamas. There are two sides to this story.
 
Life is like any other trip you have to accept it and go with the flow, taking the opertunity to learn and help others when in a situation to do so.

Lets face it, We Cannot intervien in Gaazzaa becuase we are not there the same way we wernt able to intervien with the Nazi's and even if we could we probably wouldnt know where to begin and if we were able to get there we would end up more fatalities unknown to billions.

Everything for a reason, We all have roles in life that are revealed when the time is right.
 
Razor29 a dit:
in the last 2 weeks we have been getting constant random missile attacks in israel non stop by the hammas !

do you think we can nicely ask them to stop

do you expect us to keep living with missiles hitting our citizens every day

if someone would shoot missiles on paris for 2 weeks do you think they would not strike back

i dont say i greatly condone what the army here is doing but still we where in a cease fire they broke it and taunted israel for 2 weeks

trust me that any other country would have fired back with much more force we must minimize what we can do because of our standing in the world

but nevermind all of you its nice and easy to watch tv and cast your judgement as if you know exactly whats going on and theirs a plane and simple right and wrong situation going on here but your wrong

if you would live here you would know the hole truth something that the media will never gladly share

Please tell us more. I mean you live there, you know what happens over there. I am really curious about your side of the story. So what's your perspective on everything that happens?
 
Yes this is true and it should be mentioned that the palestinians would be alot better of without hamas. There are two sides to this story.

It's sad, but this is something a lot of people do forget.
 
The grand question is, if the whole islamist-anti-western movement is not greatly attributed to the violence that the West causes in the Middle East. *Fight fire with fire, fight violence with violence*
 
Razor29 a dit:
in the last 2 weeks we have been getting constant random missile attacks in israel non stop by the hammas !

do you think we can nicely ask them to stop

do you expect us to keep living with missiles hitting our citizens every day

if someone would shoot missiles on paris for 2 weeks do you think they would not strike back

i dont say i greatly condone what the army here is doing but still we where in a cease fire they broke it and taunted israel for 2 weeks

trust me that any other country would have fired back with much more force we must minimize what we can do because of our standing in the world

but nevermind all of you its nice and easy to watch tv and cast your judgement as if you know exactly whats going on and theirs a plane and simple right and wrong situation going on here but your wrong

if you would live here you would know the hole truth something that the media will never gladly share

Look at the death count on both sides. You are not the ones who suffer the Palestinians are.

LOOK AT THE DEATH COUNTS.
How can you justify the killing of the innocent.
 
Razor29 a dit:
if someone would shoot missiles on paris for 2 weeks do you think they would not strike back

If someone would invade your land. Would you not fight back.
 
X-boy a dit:
Razor29 a dit:
in the last 2 weeks we have been getting constant random missile attacks in israel non stop by the hammas !

Yes this is true and it should be mentioned that the palestinians would be alot better of without hamas. There are two sides to this story.

Maybe the Israelis would be a lot better of without Israel.
 
How long are you going to ignore the blood on your hands ?

Its a tragic byproduct of being born in western 'civilization', that there will be blood on your hands from the moment you suck your first bottle of cow milk. Your parents open a saving account, interest generated by weapon sale to 3rd world countries. At age 16 you sniff your first cocaine which makes you directly responsible for the entire drug war laid upon indigenous people in the South America's in including the poisoning of living grounds of these people. The moment you take the first bite of meat, you are responsible for the slaughter of over 500.000.000 animals (in Holland) which are tortured and killed just for taste, not nutrition.

I cleaned most of the blood above from my hands. As for the Palestine conflict, I don't know what I can do more and as long as there are people convinced Israel is the land of GOD, discussion is not really viable I guess.
 
At age 16 you sniff your first cocaine which makes you directly responsible for the entire drug war laid upon indigenous people in the South America's in including the poisoning of living grounds

not everyone uses cocaine.
 
I cleaned most of the blood above from my hands. As for the Palestine conflict, I don't know what I can do more and as long as there are people convinced Israel is the land of GOD, discussion is not really viable I guess.

Well said :)
 
magickmumu a dit:
At age 16 you sniff your first cocaine which makes you directly responsible for the entire drug war laid upon indigenous people in the South America's in including the poisoning of living grounds

not everyone uses cocaine.

You know what he means right?
 
Razor29 a dit:
in the last 2 weeks we have been getting constant random missile attacks in israel non stop by the hammas !

do you think we can nicely ask them to stop

do you expect us to keep living with missiles hitting our citizens every day

So just kill them all?????
 
I would just like to point out that Razor29 is a Member of psychonaut and not a Government official.

He is a victim of this war the same as all the people in the middle east caught in the middle of a sick power game. Things are unfolding, people will die its just the way things go. I pray that the people that do die suffer little and that the people responsible, be held responsible for thier actions in this life or in death.

Hate Breeds Hate, Fear Breeds Fear.....
 
Well thanks . The thread seems to be getting away from personal blame and guilt and going in the direction of a solution .

If people would watch CNN , their national news and the russian international news station i think that they woulg get a more ballanced view than the one beeing shoved down our throats by the western press alone .

Razor . I dont want to hurt you . I think there is little you can do to solve the problem .....but everything your government does "against" it only results in more bloodshed . Its not a case of blameing aný one or personal guilt its about stoping the killing and making both peoples safe . Its not just you both thats getting bombed , we are to . The solution is very easy . When two sides get in a feedback loop and cant get out it just spirals downwards and they take the whole world with them . Sometime someone will have to arbitrate . Fair public discussions . Agreements and sanctions if the agreements gets broken .
 
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