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See how contradictory it can be... even St-bot has a quote : Everyone is entitled to their own neurosis.

But not me.

:lol:
 
Wowowow I read the first page when this thread first started and, wowowow.
Hopefully everyone sees both sides of the argument, I've read(scanned) over Aya's posts and found most of them to be incoherent gibberish However, while it is the Admin's responsibility to keep a community running as smoothly as possible it is also in part our responsibility is members of the community to see something and just ignore it and move on.

I see that there are several members leaving due to one member, is it right to ban one member to keep others? I feel that everyone on here should have the maturity to not get upset at what somewhat else says as that is there own opinion which they are entirely have the right to have.

We need to find some way of finding a compromise here as I would hate to see anyone leave from CM, to God, to Drugless, and even to Aya. A new section is a definite option, also maybe we could look at drafting up some new more detailed rules and have the moderators help to keep things going on topic and keep things like this from happening.

As I said, we need to find some sort of compromise before we compromise losing invaluable minds.
 
JustinNed a dit:
Wowowow I read the first page when this thread first started and, wowowow.
Hopefully everyone sees both sides of the argument, I've read(scanned) over Aya's posts and found most of them to be incoherent gibberish However, while it is the Admin's responsibility to keep a community running as smoothly as possible it is also in part our responsibility is members of the community to see something and just ignore it and move on.

I see that there are several members leaving due to one member, is it right to ban one member to keep others? I feel that everyone on here should have the maturity to not get upset at what somewhat else says as that is there own opinion which they are entirely have the right to have.

We need to find some way of finding a compromise here as I would hate to see anyone leave from CM, to God, to Drugless, and even to Aya. A new section is a definite option, also maybe we could look at drafting up some new more detailed rules and have the moderators help to keep things going on topic and keep things like this from happening.

As I said, we need to find some sort of compromise before we compromise losing invaluable minds.

Finally someone who is seeing it for what it is. I wish that more members where able to look at the problems from out of your perspective ;) I also think, we need to start compromise instead of leaving. Opening a new forum for esotorism, would be a good start to begin.
 
Very interesting how the french people are really passionate about this discussion.
 
JustinNed a dit:
Hopefully everyone sees both sides of the argument, I've read(scanned) over Aya's posts and found most of them to be incoherent gibberish However, while it is the Admin's responsibility to keep a community running as smoothly as possible it is also in part our responsibility is members of the community to see something and just ignore it and move on.

That has been tried, you know.
 
Ahuaeynjxs a dit:
See how contradictory it can be... even St-bot has a quote : Everyone is entitled to their own neurosis.

But not me.

:lol:

and i stand by that quote...

which is not intended to excuse anyone's abrasive behavior

there is no contradiction
 
Finer and finer abrasives eventually give a polished surface...

perhaps you should rephrase it :?
 
or they tear things apart, leaving wounds and scars.
 
Then one of the judges of the city stood forth and said, "Speak to us of Crime and Punishment."
And he answered saying:
It is when your spirit goes wandering upon the wind,
That you, alone and unguarded, commit a wrong unto others and therefore unto yourself.
And for that wrong committed must you knock and wait a while unheeded at the gate of the blessed.
Like the ocean is your god-self;
It remains for ever undefiled.
And like the ether it lifts but the winged.
Even like the sun is your god-self;
It knows not the ways of the mole nor seeks it the holes of the serpent.
But your god-self does not dwell alone in your being.
Much in you is still man, and much in you is not yet man,
But a shapeless pygmy that walks asleep in the mist searching for its own awakening.
And of the man in you would I now speak.
For it is he and not your god-self nor the pygmy in the mist, that knows crime and the punishment of crime.
Oftentimes have I heard you speak of one who commits a wrong as though he were not one of you, but a stranger unto you and an intruder upon your world.
But I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you,
So the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.
And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree,
So the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all.
Like a procession you walk together towards your god-self.
You are the way and the wayfarers.
And when one of you falls down he falls for those behind him, a caution against the stumbling stone.
Aye, and he falls for those ahead of him, who though faster and surer of foot, yet removed not the stumbling stone.
And this also, though the word lie heavy upon your hearts:
The murdered is not unaccountable for his own murder,
And the robbed is not blameless in being robbed.
The righteous is not innocent of the deeds of the wicked,
And the white-handed is not clean in the doings of the felon.
Yes, the guilty is oftentimes the victim of the injured,
And still more often the condemned is the burden-bearer for the guiltless and unblamed.
You cannot separate the just from the unjust and the good from the wicked;
For they stand together before the face of the sun even as the black thread and the white are woven together.
And when the black thread breaks, the weaver shall look into the whole cloth, and he shall examine the loom also.
If any of you would bring judgment the unfaithful wife,
Let him also weight the heart of her husband in scales, and measure his soul with measurements.
And let him who would lash the offender look unto the spirit of the offended.
And if any of you would punish in the name of righteousness and lay the axe unto the evil tree, let him see to its roots;
And verily he will find the roots of the good and the bad, the fruitful and the fruitless, all entwined together in the silent heart of the earth.
And you judges who would be just,
What judgment pronounce you upon him who though honest in the flesh yet is a thief in spirit?
What penalty lay you upon him who slays in the flesh yet is himself slain in the spirit?
And how prosecute you him who in action is a deceiver and an oppressor,
Yet who also is aggrieved and outraged?
And how shall you punish those whose remorse is already greater than their misdeeds?
Is not remorse the justice which is administered by that very law which you would fain serve?
Yet you cannot lay remorse upon the innocent nor lift it from the heart of the guilty.
Unbidden shall it call in the night, that men may wake and gaze upon themselves.
And you who would understand justice, how shall you unless you look upon all deeds in the fullness of light?
Only then shall you know that the erect and the fallen are but one man standing in twilight between the night of his pygmy-self and the day of his god-self,
And that the corner-stone of the temple is not higher than the lowest stone in its foundation.

From The Prophet by Khalil Gibran

I am looking thus towards creation, destruction and stasis ; as all of us.
 
Btw I saw you edit that post... but it's fine with me.

We now have a proof god might not be crazy ; it seems removing lots of words do not also write edited, you must add or replace them.
 
Ahuaeynjxs a dit:
Btw I saw you edit that post... but it's fine with me.

We now have a proof god might not be crazy ; it seems removing lots of words do not also write edited, you must add or replace them.

I edited it before you had responded, and it was a simple edit that contained a question which after posting I decided it was better not to ask. It seems your actions have already answered that question anyway, and that's enough for me.

-edit-

And yes, it only writes edit about 5-10% of the time. I don't know why.
 
I knew it was. Because this is your 11:11 th post, mr.St-Caterpillar.

Who Arrrrreee Youuuu ?
 
* couldn't read all this thread. * no enough attention or focus.

There are, seemingly, some actors playing some instances. This hectic social experiment has profound cosmic implications.

Somebody has been having fun--Who are you?

I feel, nonetheless, that we have been on this place before. Many times actually. Too many.
 
nomada, i really appreciate the perspective in your posts.

though i played a small part, i think i was coming to the same conclusion an hour or two ago.. then logged on and read this.

there's something else i want to post here but i can't convince myself to do it, even though i innately feel i should..
 
You just spelled it out making smoke rings unconsciously !

BUSTED ! :lol:
 
though i played a small part, i think i was coming to the same conclusion an hour or two ago.. then logged on and read this.

We all have. We are all together in this. I should learn to have fun, that is, learn not to learn.

Don't you ever have the feeling we are all just acting out a play?
 
well life is a play. it's the ultimate drama.
 
yes, i do. it's hard to get into, but i do (i've edited this paragraph a dozen times now hoping it makes sense). maybe its all the astrophysics and math i studied from a tender age. maybe its related to how i see the universe as a series of interconnected processes giving rise to complex structures over time, including awareness. maybe because I'm not sold on free will.

i'm know i feel sad that the shit hit the fan in the forum today, egos flared, feelings were wounded, people left. i do know i feel pain when i stub my toe. i feel empathy for others. these are things my psyche tells me that I choose I am feeling, for whatever reason.

anyway, i am dethreading the thread.. although this thread seems to be heading in a different direction now. in my excuse i'm slightly drunk, the honesty serum has taken over. hahah.
 
CaduceusMercurius a dit:
No, but it might be said that at this point we're unseparable. A ban isn't really an option right now. That's why I said it's better not to rush this.

What do you mean by unseparable.

By that token, I must also delete at least one other member, that surprisingly none of you are concerned about. From my perspective given User is communicating quite coherently.

Which member and for what reason?

[edit]Stop hiding your motives, please.
 
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