Witches

[GOD]

"what we said is that it all comes from the same ancient tradition"

You didnt read the things i sugested did you .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

I did... but to me it's some true but the conclusion is not drawn ; they tend alot to support their closed ideas with science while the subject is clearly unscientific.

I had posted this in my thread earlier... look at this picture clearly and try to make sense of the articles you sent, it is CLEARLY older and deeper than it looks like.

http://www.valis666.net/

(it dosen't paste as an image because of some devious script so you'll have to look at it there)

The first picture at the top : Philosophy, Alchemy, Astronomy, Virtue.

 

[GOD]

No dirty tricks please . Just take a look at the crap thats underneath it please , do yout want to get christened "zest II" ? Its got nothing to do with witchcraft and its origins .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

This is a very old drawing bro, look at it really, the guy who made the page didn't draw this... it has no association whatsoever with this guy, he just uses it for his purpose just like you use the association not to look at the picture.

and besides, you generalise again , the videos are made my many different authors... not all of it is crap.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4233910858

Edit : Besides I find it very interesting that google censored many of the titles that actually interested me.

 

[GOD]

It has no asociation with witches either . It says on it "cabala" wich is jewish not anglo saxon . Nor does the video link you posted . Untill you or someone else says something relevant i shall lurk in the background again .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

As you wish... but Jewish is Kabbalah not Cabala ; it is a radical manipulation (for obscure purpose WITHOUT virtue) with the tradition which is drawn on this picture which is much older than the concept of races.

I explained this already but it's hard to communicate any concepts because you seem to forget what you dismiss, which creates disbeleif, which is in my opinion as worse as beleif.

Anyways yes it is relevant I think, but if you don't want to see this theres nothing more I can do about it, because it is obvious.

 

[GOD]

Explain the word cabala and explain what language the other 4 words are in . Also explain the alphabet .

Please dont waste my time . It has nothing what so ever to do with witchcraft or wicca .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

I'm not sure I seized what you mean , was that means to be sarcastic ?

 

[GOD]

No . I mean on that diagram you wanted me to look at . Whats the source of it all ?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

http://digital.slub-dresden.de/sammlung ... 166578/17/

Is is an old depiction of metaphysical alchemy, I definately could tell you where it comes from, but you would definately dismiss it as fantasy. So lets say it was drawn and invented in that period.

*bs cough*

 

[GOD]

As Mr.Smith would say "Bad boy , bad" . I bet you nearly choked through coughing so much bullshit out . Its from 1654 and is part of an exhibition about technical history of the 16 and 17th century . It has something to do with alchemy . I cant understand latin so i cant say more . Exept it has nothing to do with witches or witchcraft .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Well it's your loss friend... you seem to think that everyone that makes drawings only mean what they draw, or mean what they mean.

I got a big surprise for you, people telling truth in those days could have been killed, so they hid stuff inside pictures, and thats still not the whole story.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Its from 1654 and is part of an exhibition about technical history of the 16 and 17th century . It has something to do with alchemy . I cant understand latin so i cant say more . Exept it has nothing to do with witches or witchcraft .

I think it's mostly in German.
Here's my translation.

In the four circles:

Astronomy
Virtues
Alchemy
Philosophy

In the center circle:

Mercurius - mercury
Natur - nature
Oleum - oil
Potabile - faucet
Quintia: Esse - chimney
Rebis - hermaphrodite
Salmiac - salts
Tragant - gum
Vitriol - sulphuric acid
Essig - vinegar
Ignis - fire
Zinober - quicksilver
Aurium - gold
Bley - lead
Cheyri - wine
Dracken Blutt - dragon's blood = plant resin
Eisen - iron
Farb des Wercks - color of the works
Grand des [triangle] - quartz crystals, siliciumdioxide
Haupt des Rabe - head of a raven (withcraft! lol)
Küpffer - Copper
Luna - the moon

 

[Mr.Smith]

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[Caduceus Mercurius]

I think the book is called "The Kabbalah, Mirror of Nature and the Arts in Alchemy". I'm not supposed to understand Latin either, but somehow I can understand much of the text.

Oh, look here, there's even a German explanation (on the left, Latin on the right) of the words mentioned in the image. And I think "quarts crystals" was a wrong translation, it should have referred to the temperature of the fire (gradus ignis). Raven's head is a literal translation of caput corvi.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

CM - what does the Sun in Mercury signify?

Though this image does portray all the zodiac signs (three in each circle, and one ouside each circle), the larger circle does not signify the zodiac. The Sun can't be in Mercury, only conjunct Mercury. And from an astrological perspective such conjunctions are very common, because Mercury (like Venus) is always near the Sun. Mercury represents communication, languages, wit and thought processes, and the Sun generally represents the true self.

I think "chimney" was a bad translation. The words "Quintia: esse" appear here too (in Latin) but they are part of a sentence that seems to say something about "The macrocosmos....microcomsos" and man being created in God's image.

 

[????????]

hey CM, what do you think about the maya kin?

and what data do you need from someone to work your vedic magic? does it suffice with a date of birth?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

No, can't do magic with a date only. Time of birth, accurate within 5 minutes, is required. So the essential data are: place, date, hour and minute of birth.

 

[BrainEater]

what is it what you can do caduceus ???? seems interesting... maybe you can astro-psychology-alchemically scan me or whatever it is you do?

peace

 

[????????]

yes... but i asked first!

CM, you did not read what i wrote about maya kins. apparently they had 160 different archetypes that depend on birth date. a friend talked to me about it the other day, it's similar to zodiac signs although more complex... i'm just reading about it. have you?