Witches

[chiKa]

Very good Ahuaeynjxs,
nice to see that other people also spend time learning about our past!

 

[chiKa]

some info:

When the Inquisition was established in 1231, the Dominicans were in charge of its organization and the execution of heretics. They created schools of theology at the Universities of Paris, Bologne, Oxford and Cologne to train monks. Especially in the mountainous regions, many people still believed in ancient goddess religions, guided by their priestesses. The Inquisition and the Dominicans concentrated on the Alps of northern Italy. To destroy the followers of the old goddess religions, the use of torture had been officially authorized by Pope Innocent IV in 1252. The monks were to extract admissions of heresy, sorcery and witchcraft from the people. The witch hunt in the Alps and southern Germany killed more people than in any other region.

The reason for this has also to do with the fact that in spain and portugal witches, jews and others had the opportunity to convert to catholicism, by doing that they could save there customs and pass them on. I have family who are descendent's from witches from Gallaecia, when I was a little girl I heard a lot stories from family members about there past. Very interesting.

and further on

Pope Gregory IX instituted the papal Inquisition in 1231 for the apprehension and trial of heretics. In 1478 Pope Sixtus IV authorized the Spanish Inquisition to combat apostate former Jews and Muslins, and the heretic Alumbrados. This inquisition was so severe that Sixtus IV tried to interfere but the Spanish crown forced the pope to give up his efforts. In 1483 he authorized a grand-inquisitor for Castile, a few months later one for Aragon, Valencia and Catalonia.

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From an other site

Meigas - Galician witches

A dictionary of Spanish history and culture

Meigas are the famed witches of Galica, though the term is also used in León and Asturias. The word meiga derives from the Latin magicus. Meigas can be good or evil, ugly or stunningly beautiful. Most dangerous among the northern witches are the meigas-chuchonas, the much feared Galician sucker-hags.

The popular Galician expression, Eu non creo nas meigas, pero habelas hainas; (also used in Spanish Yo no creo en las brujas, pero haberlas, haylas; - I don’t believe in witches, but they exist), is said to encapsulate the balance in the Galician character between practicality, incredulity and mysticism.

In the rest of Spain, witches are known as brujas (bruixes en Catalan). Witchcraft is brujería.

http://iberianature.com/spain_culture/culture-and-history-of-spain-m/meigas-galician-witches/

 

[GOD]

"what are you doing READ MY POST"

If you have something to say say it and stop repeating yourself . If you think i havent read something or not understood something please say what it is .

Witches , wicca are an anglo saxon phenomenen . Not spanish or portugese , the term is being falsly used , just like the word shaman is often falsly used by many people . Wiches are also defined by what they believed and they didnt believe what other people who are now called wiches by ignorant people believe .

Mu and atlantis didnt exist .

 

[chiKa]

@ GOD,

I never said it was Spanish our Portuguese,
I only posted some information.

But I also don't agree with you that it is an anglo saxon phenomenen.
What gave you the idea that it was an anglo saxon phenomenen?

Who said Atlantis didn't exist??
Maybe you don't believe it,.. but thats an other thing.
There is more evidence that there was an Atlantis then none evidence about it.

& you seem to be very convinced about your truth and thats fine by me, but dont think you have seen everything, and know everything, it makes you look foolish, because there are always people who know more then you (and by this I don't mean that I am one of them, but maybe in this case I might have seen more then you).

(English is not my first language, so excuse me when I write some things the wrong way. I don't mean to harm)

 

[GOD]

WICCA is an anglo-saxon word wich is the root of the word WICH . WICCA and WICH are an anglo-saxon phenomenen . The words have been corupted and falsly used to describe other phenomenen in recent years and by the catholic church before that . I am talking about WICCA and WICHES and only that .

"There is more evidence that there was an Atlantis then none evidence about it. "

Where ? What "evidence" ?

" you seem to be very convinced about your truth and thats fine by me, but dont think you have seen everything, and know everything, it makes you look foolish, because there are always people who know more then you (and by this I don't mean that I am one of them, but maybe in this case I might have seen more then you). "

Please stop projecting things on me . I have no truth to decide in this case . The truth is the truth , facts are facts .I never claimed to have seen or that i know everything thats just a projection from you . If you want to talk to me about facts please stick to facts .

Why dont you offer some facts and stop just pretending fantasy storys are facts .

 

[chiKa]

I have no truth to decide in this case . The truth is the truth

It's your truth,....

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You seem an intelligent person, so you must know that science cant explain everything (yet), that doesn't mean that things aren't true, it just means that science haven't got a answer just now, and therefor its difficult to give you hard facts for everything, you knew that, so why start a topic like this asking for facts??

But if you cant accept from some one who has experienced it, then you dont,.. it's fine by me,. I have no intentions playing yes or no games with you.

I am here to share information,...
and not to prove things or do homework for others.
But remember its a good thing we had people with fantasies, otherwise we never would had have plains, cars and all those other things we didnt have in ancient times and where we still sending messages by smoke (like the indians)

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Hum... so why does it matter to you god if the witches in spain are called brujas and not witches ? It seems futile to debate such a point...

Besides, why do you come discuss a thing in a thread only to conclude they do not exist and you just posted information to confuse people, there is much interesting information in the wiki pages you posted...

I mean, anyways, we wont listen to you and think you have the absolute truth because you have not studied the subject in depth. We will discuss it anwyays.

You don't even want to know what I think about it, which is rare... why this subject, what in it is so controversial you radically butt up against it ?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

19 Witches

You're floating there, you're handing me a snake inside a jar,
It's just too cool, I do believe what you say you are,
How many days was I in that psychotic submarine?
I stumbled out, I took my turn, and now I've made your scene...

An Iron Cross, a sacrifice, I'm born in Vietnam,
You'll take me home in your machine and tell me about your plan.

Come on in
Come on in
And put your hands on me
Come on in
Come on in
My love will set your free

I said woa, ho, ho, I'm in love again
Woa, ho, ho, you're so strange!
I said woa, ho, ho, I'm in love again
Woa, ho, ho, you're so strange!
So very strange...

They'll hang me here, they'll make me pay, if I do what they don't like
So cast your sin quick and bite my lip, and screw my brain up tight

Come on in
Come on in
And put your claws in me
Come on in
Come on in
And tune up my machine

I said woa, ho, ho, I'm in love again
Woa, ho, ho, you're so strange!
So very strange!

 

[GOD]

"Hum... so why does it matter to you god if the witches in spain are called brujas and not witches ? It seems futile to debate such a point... "

Maybe to you . I didnt start that line of discussion . I answered . Would it be futile if someone tried to tell a very ignorant person that claimed that catholisism was the same as Hinduism because they are both religions that they are not the same ? It would only be futile if one was talking to a very disshonest person that had already made his mind up about something that he didnt understand and wasnt prepared to change his false opinions .

"why do you come discuss a thing in a thread only to conclude they do not exist "

I have not done that and i dont think that .

"you just posted information to confuse people, "

I did not do that . I am trying to stop the confusion that many people spread about things that they have no idea about .

And thats a bit rich comming from you of all people after the confused and confusing posts you regularly post here .

" we wont listen to you and think you have the absolute truth because you have not studied the subject in depth."

WE ? Who is we in this case ? Do you mean you and others or everyone ? If you mean everyone you are wrong . Why do you think that i think i have the ultimate truth ? I dont think that i have "the" ultimate truth in everything . Have you an inferiority complex ?

"You don't even want to know what I think about it"

Have you an inferiority complex ? If i hadnt read your last post i couldnt have answered it could i ?

"why this subject, what in it is so controversial you radically butt up against it "

Another confused answer from you . The name of the thread is "Wiches" and i havent and dont radically butt up against it . You seem to me to be confusing the facts that are know about wiches with your confused opinions about wiches .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Sorry I read I reread your post and I can't seem to make sense of most of it.

we I mean the other people who were discussing interesting things about witches.

You started the thread... I'm just expressing that I felt trapped ; it felt as if you started it just to see what crazy things I would say then to say the exact opposite.

That how it felt... if I'm wrong then it's ok too...

 

[magickmumu]

Sorry I read I reread your post and I can't seem to make sense of most of it.

we I mean the other people who were discussing interesting things about witches.

You started the thread... I'm just expressing that I felt trapped ; it felt as if you started it just to see what crazy things I would say then to say the exact opposite.

That how it felt... if I'm wrong then it's ok too...

I agree with Ahu. You do not even read our post.

And it's not the first time.

 

[mysticwarrior]

Have you an inferiority complex ?

And you? Because i have exactly that feeling.....:?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

With some perspective I don't see your intention as wrong God... I admit I was a little rude, didn't really mean it that way. Sorry about that.

Everyone honored your posts I think you should do the same by reading the content of the others, not merely dismissing them, try to research some content maybe ; we assume since you started the thread that it interests you to hear our opinions about it.

I bet you didn't even read the full articles about lemuria and atlantis you posted, oh of course at first they say that it didn't exist because of some pathetic scientific arguments, but there is much interesting information after, although incomplete.

 

[GOD]

"Sorry about that"

You havent got anything to be sorry about . I dont think your a rude person at all and i havent got a problem with you . If i have anything to say to you i will . Nice that you think about some things though .

About the loony esoteric shit about atlantis and lemuria . I`ve been aware of that and read about it since i was 14 . Things like that , wiches , esoterics and PSI were what brought me to "drugs" .

Maybe if some people here would do as much research as i have done they wouldnt fall for books by sharlatans and wouldnt talk so much subjective shit .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

So you think Plato was a "sharlatan?

I have pretty different views about all this you kno that... I think it all happened in the 4th-5th dimention and that we are manifesting artifacts from that "period" now in our reality due to the "matrix"...

food for thought.

 

[GOD]

No . Did you ask plato on your time traveling excursions if he ment his story about atlantis seriously , or if the paralels to the events of his local history were / were not deliberate ? If you read the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy in a few thousand years would you believe it to be fact ?

I like the way you read wiki and only see the things you can twist to fit with the fantasys you have and ignore the most of the rest of it that is far more plausible .

And when one digests "food" a lot of it turns out to be shit after a few hours . That is , if a person is healthy .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

I think there is a difference between the hitchhikers guide and ancient writtings from monks that plato based his research on.

Anyhow I might look at it in any way I like... in all the most terrible rulers by force there is always an obcession with the mystical.

Were they ALL delusional to try to find those things ? I cannot find a rational explanation for their actions in my mind, perhaps there isn't. But then that would mean that the 5 thousand years old sanskrit writtings of the vedas in india is crap, that the old writtings in the mayan temples is crap. And that all those people were hallucinating badly.

Well thats not so hard to figure to me because I can see how the holographic transposition took place, but finding a proof for the masses to read is another story. You are asking nothing more than a proof of god's existance ; if where was such a proof noone would be fighting about it would they ? We'd all go... oh shit theres a god, I'll watch my step.

Duh no pun intended !

You mean you wish they were fantasies, only time will tell. I just hope I make it alive !

 

[GOD]

I am not a psychiatrist i can not hekp you .

 

[GOD]

Look in wiki at witch ( etemology ) .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

We know that you're right about the ethymology, what we said is that it all comes from the same ancient tradition...