What are the 5 drugs you dislike most

[Moriarty]

Well, I didn't read the original post until you commented but I stick by my answer. I am no fan of any drug produced in nature and the ones I do like have been purified by a competent chemist. Marijuana effects me more profoundly than any drug I have ever imbibed. I dislike it intensely. I say that but carry a copy of my medical marijuana recommendation in my pocket. It's your choice to use it. If it suits you, use it all night and day. I could care less. For me, I like anything that I can know the exact dosage and content. This is completely not doable with any product of nature unless a decent chemist isolates the desired drug. All the same- maybe it's the chemist that has dwelled in me for several decades- I prefer synthetic drugs. They are not all good but man is capable of making what nature produces better. Better living through chemistry. So I stay true to what I said before even though I find drugs like methamphetamine as disgusting as the next guy.

 

[NotBelow150]

1. nicotine (as with a lot of others, unpleasant, smells bad, messes up physical condition but it's soooo impossible to quit it. I've actually given up trying to give up smoking, literally. Not much on this planet that makes me feel as guilty as smoking yet another g'damn *-!ç@ cigarette. God I hate them)

1. marihuana (right on par with nicotine for me, smells bad, makes you feel stupid and lazy. Messes up your head bigtime, way more than any other drugs I've ever tried. Though that might be due to the fact that I've smoked that stupid plant basically non-stop for almost 14 years. Of all the drugs I (consciously) crave this one the most.)

2. money (nothing more junkie-like on this planet than a money-junk. Evil evil evil stuff. Stay away from it kids...)

3. heroin (matter of personal preference, I don't like the lazy feeling and all that. Nor do I like the people and environment that my head associates with it. And frankly, it's pretty much the only drug that I'm really afraid of. Probably has something to do with the inevitable needles that crosses ones mind when thinking of heroin. Needles scare me shitless!!!! Mamaaaa!!! :wink: )

4. mushrooms (went totally bad once after drinking one cup of mushroomtea made out of like 6 or 7 full portions (yes, all in one cup... ) Had a bit of a breakdown then. Freaky stuff.)

5. cocain (just hate the stuff. It fucked up my nose, my skull, my brains, about 8 or so years of my life and that of some others around me. Oh how soon the glory fades away, leaving behind those that searched for it in the ever fading shadow of the glory...)

6. meth (never tried it, let alone that I ever saw it in real-life, but damn that stuff just ought to be The Devil In Disguise. Would make an excellent cashcow should you be able to plug it in uninfected areas (W-Europe comes to mind) though...)

 

[Moriarty]

Meth is the devil in disguise. I am a former minister who spent a decade as a clandestine chemist. The only time I did anything I regret was on meth. During the 8 months I did the stuff I lost my whole lab and all my chemicals (~$40,000) and became homeless. I had never really been to jail but meth made sure I went 4 times in 8 months before they shipped my dumb ass to one of California's most violent prisons. During that 8 months I, a person who had never taken a thing that was not his own, rode around with all sorts of burglary tools and stole everything I could find. I stole from friends, companies, strangers...I would have taken a light rack off a police car if i could have gotten any money for it. Anyway, it turns good people into bad people. No matter how good the intentions of the individual it always ends up shitty and fucked up if they are on speed. It's schedule II all the same because in measured doses, even this easily abused drugs, is manageable. But, all and all, I dislike it and what it does to people. There's a million dollars in blood money out there for a decent meth chemist but I will never make a dime off the stuff, just on GP.

 

[spisshak]

hmmm cocaine.

why? well i used to distribute a lot of coke it got real sketchy you know people want to kill you constantly carrying guns dealing with psychotic feinds and of course they're not happy that you just took thier month's rent and thier grocerie money to boot and told them to get lost. that and you have to be a serious asshole to traffic in cocaine because the kind swis used to pal around with were like this.
hey yeah come over then, put one behind your ear and wrap somethin around your head so it don't make too much mess.
them days i could'nt care less about anybody i did'nt give a fuck.
this is no bullshit maybe things are gentler and nicer these days.

now heroin that's gods gift to man although many disagree nothing like a syringe full of some good smack.
you feel completly content just doing nothing, what else makes you feel that good?

 

[gtchemen]

i agree i dont like weed. Its easily obtainable and makes you lazy and slows down your response time . and strips you of that motivation that once burned inside you
morarity minister / alchemist! who are you hahahaha thats neat

 

[Virgil]

Hhhehehehehe,

In the first posts I saw "sugar" as a bad drug... :shock: Is sugar a drug ???? Hhehhehehe Or perhaps is a nickname for a drug... I dunno.

But I agree with the last post. I was a big daily weed smoker in my teenage time. It's now more than 2 years I didnot smoke weed, and I really feel much better. I realize now how did I waste my money and time in this fucking ganja, always making me sleepy.

Well, for my own experience I would say,

1 alcool (but I still enjoy it a lot)
2 Most of the cocaine (The true coke is other stuff)
3 Meth (I didnot try, but when I see the state of people consuming that... Uuuh my God)
4 Crack (the same as meth)
5c-e (Yeaaah, I had a bad experience with it)

 

[MelloTrip]

You can't blame weed for making you feel shitty if you abuse it...

Treat her as a real psychedelic, with respect. In my mind, weed is something you should only explore once in while (i.e. once per month). In this way, I don't see how it would cause you any harm. Far from it actually.

My excuses for being off-topic.

 

[Virgil]

Common MelloTrip, you can not compare weed and psychedelics (acid, shrooms, 2C-b, (...mdma...)...).

You can explore it once a month if you like, but you will just be stone once a month, it won't change anything

When I say "psychedelics", I say a substance allowing you to explore your mind, to reach a "modified state of consiousness".

Can you explain me in which way this state of consiousness is possible by smoking weed and getting stone ?...

 

[Moriarty]

morarity minister / alchemist! who are you hahahaha thats neat

I'm just a chemistry nerd that was raised by VERY religious parents. I abandon my pursuits to become and chemist and go to pharmacy school and chose Bible College in the Mid-West instead. It was a poor decision. I abandon the study of theology soon after entering a master's program in Biblical Studies because I lost my religion altogether. So I returned to my roots and became a clandestine chemist. After prison I decided that was enough of that and have been trying to get back into school ever since. Chemistry, Physics and Pharmacology are truly the most interesting things in the world, for me anyway.

Spisshak: Heroin! Oh, how I loved it. I haven't done it in years. I blame you not for liking it but advise staying away from the stuff as I do. It's a dark road but I'm sure you know that all too well.

 

[MelloTrip]

Common MelloTrip, you can not compare weed and psychedelics (acid, shrooms, 2C-b, (...mdma...)...).

You can explore it once a month if you like, but you will just be stone once a month, it won't change anything

When I say "psychedelics", I say a substance allowing you to explore your mind, to reach a "modified state of consiousness".

Can you explain me in which way this state of consiousness is possible by smoking weed and getting stone ?...

This is one of the biggest misconceptions about weed I'm hearing over and over by people who don't really give a damn about set & setting when smoking it. The same people who 95% of the time smoke weed in a joint half-full or more of tobacco. Weed IS a psychedelic. Unfortunately, it is so widespread nowadays that people don't bother thinking how it is best used. They just copy what everything is doing. Sometimes they get addicted to the tobacco they put in their joints, don't even realize it and weed gets the blame. But that's another debate.

I'm sure Forkbender or Brugmansia can endorse what I'm saying here.

No offense here Virgil but you are clueless. I think you are underestimating weed because you never took the chance to use it properly.

Try vaporizing or smoking some very potent sativa weed in a pipe (not a bong), pure, after a minimum of 3 weeks of abstention. Do it at home in a ritual-like manner, alone or with a single close friend.

Wait for the high. Put on your favorite album. Close your eyes. If needed lay on your bed. I like to be seated when I do this, the feeling I get from slowly letting my back rest on the chair is beyond words.
See what happens. You won't just be "stoned".

I literally had orgasms when doing that.
I was shown the love I have towards some records to the power of infinity.
I cried many times. Warm tears of utter happiness and cosmic joy.
I felt waves of energy going up my spine and was left wordless when they 'explosed' out from neck and shoulders.
I once saw Buddha on a curtain and was paralyzed by its presence.
etc.


I keep logs of my experience. I might create a topic someday if some people are interested in reading more.

I'm not nuts. But don't take my word for it. Try it yourself.

 

[gtchemen]

you right bud should be endulged every once in a while but many people become to fond of her wicked ways leading to the becomming a lathargic procrastinator atleast for me

 

[Necridous]

MelloTrip, I'm sure thats nice, and whenever you abstain from something for a long time it will hit you harder, but what you are describing is simply being stoned. If you are self-aware, these things happen each and every time you smoke. I am a daily smoker and every time I inhale I get the sensations you are describing excepting I do not need to participate in any sort of rituals or carefully crafted set and setting. I may not go so far as to cry, but I experience increased empathy, CEVs and sometimes OEVs, energy coursing through my body, and sometimes sensations akin to orgasm. Weed is a potent substance, but I would argue against set and setting playing as large a role in its effects as other things such as LSD, MDMA, etc...

 

[icekrm]

I've not tasted all of them, but the most crap drug for me are in range:
LSD (never tested, too strong for my psych)>
Cannabis (anxiety paranoia)>
amphetamine (never tested but sounds so much depressant for low fun)>
alcohol (could make you a stupid animal)

 

[SeekerOfTheForm]

Alcohol is the only drug I've ever had a problem with, so I'd put that first. I don't even get drunk anymore, at least subjectively. I get a heavy buzz going, then I'm waking up feeling like hell and listening to all the retarded shit I did and said the night before from my friends and room mate. Then I have a beer to ease off the hangover and it starts again. I had to put an end to it, which is most unfortunate since about all my friends ever do is drink. I was using it as a bud substitute due to my current financial situation. It' also useless to me as far as entheogenic purposes go.

Opiates I find to be nothing but hedonistic for the most part. I occasionally dabble, and have used them to induce visions during mental exercises, but there's nothing really there for me. And I've seen them literally eat people. For my part, I used morphine four times a week for a month or two before I got bored.

Cocaine is similar, I'll do a line or two if offered, but never more. I find it and crack to be among the most useless drugs on the planet (and yes, I've had VERY good cocaine) we'll take lines, babble about nonsense, and then crash after an hour. Crack is roughly the same, but add "delusional" to the nonsense line and only a thirty minute high with a harder crash. I don't fiend for them, so the addiction factor has never been a real deterrent, more a distaste for the lack of any useful effect.

Methamphetamine is an odd monster, a small line or one or two big hits is a whole different beast from using it recreationally. I study, clean, and write up projects for around eight hours, then smoke some weed and go to bed. More than that and it becomes a monstrous thing which will eat my psyche until I run out or stop, at which point I feel like shit and resort to using other drugs to offset the come down. A day or two later, I experience no further urge to do it. I can get high quality stuff pretty much anytime I want, but I've never bought the stuff, I find d-amphetamine to be far superior and far less addictive for the qualities I find interesting about the stuff.

And, of course, benzodiazepines, in all their glory. Or rather, lack thereof. No real euphoria without a combination, relaxation, stupidity, and the mental effects of alcohol occurring before the inability to walk. 'tis not good. I've woken up once or twice beat to hell and/or covered in blood(albeit, from what I've been told the situations were justified). I have yet to wake up without my pants at least, and anymore if I do partake I'll just get enough for a single dose and take it at once. I've also seen people get eaten by these, "fortunately" my go-to for anxiety was always alcohol.

I'd have put nicotine on here, but honestly, I enjoy smoking as long as I stay active. The smell and everything else doesn't bother me, although I know it does others. It is stupidly addictive, and I advise people not to start when they begin, but it's a simple pleasure that I enjoy mostly.

 

[madprossor]

i don't like foxy methoxy. that stuff is total crap compared to 2cb, lsd, mushrooms, 4-ace-dipt, etc. (never tried regular dipt).

 

[AlphaMethyl]

1. Amphetamines
2. Heroin
3. Alcohol
4. Dimenhydrinate
5. Everything who looks like a pill :mrgreen:

 

[viljo]

1. cannabis
2. exstacy
ha, ha,

 

[NeilPatrickHarris]

i don't like foxy methoxy. that stuff is total crap compared to 2cb, lsd, mushrooms, 4-ace-dipt, etc. (never tried regular dipt).

hell yeah, fuck foxy

 

[Guest]

you right bud should be endulged every once in a while but many people become to fond of her wicked ways leading to the becomming a lathargic procrastinator atleast for me

Amen

 

[Supervixen]

1. Amphetamines
2. Heroin
3. Alcohol
4. Dimenhydrinate
5. Everything who looks like a pill :mrgreen:

Paracetamol sounds good to me. + the PILL. Very usefull.

fcttpntm => "fuck cunts, tits, twitter, pee-wee, nuts, tits again, (your) mother" ?

Sorry.