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I remember hearing that if you take amanita's you might fall asleep first for a few hours and wake up tripping after. I once woke up after a night when I just ate some weedbuttercookies right before going to bed. I woke up so stoned I thought I was dreaming. It must be pretty interesting to wake up tripping.
 
I remember 'waking up' tripping from my Datura intoxication many years ago. It was weird, but not disturbing (it became disturbing when I ingested 300 mics of acid later that day). You are right about the sleepiness being the second stage of the Amanita experience, but I could still imagine it would be quite possible to fall asleep a couple of hours into the third stage.
 
I have ones tried Amanita, but the dose wasn't strong enough to give me a strong trip, but there was a lot of euphoria for 2 hours and then everything faded away. Someday i will try it again, but i am to scared that i am going to pick the wrong ones ;)

It was weird, but not disturbing (it became disturbing when I ingested 300 mics of acid later that day).

WTF? :D Oke i knew that you tried Datura. But you did combine it with acid? :P Man!! You must have gone really hard :P
 
mysticwarrior a dit:
WTF? :D Oke i knew that you tried Datura. But you did combine it with acid? :P Man!! You must have gone really hard :P
Yes, it was quite a monumental trip. I actually posted a trip report right underneath one of your posts in the Nightmare thread:

I had a very bad trip in 1993, when I was 18 years old. One Friday evening a friend and I had made Datura tea, Jimson Weed, and that whole night I had spent looking at my aura and the two Pink Floyd posters dance on my walls. The next morning we would go to Tilburg (in The Netherlands) by train. There is a big fair there every summer for ten days, with rollercoasters, merry-go-rounds, etc.

So our plan was to go there and have fun. We were both still seeing things that weren't there (Datura is not a psychedelic, but it does generate powerful hallucinations, distortions of perceiving reality I'd say). When we arrived, we realized we didn't have sufficient money to go on any of the rides. So to enjoy the day anyway, we decided to divide the 6 acid trips we still had among eachother, so we each took three. That day, due to the Datura, I perceived my friend as a great old teacher, and these three hits were going to give me instant self-realization!

So, we went home. I couldn't possibly read anymore, but my friend somehow figured out which train we had to get in. They were playing the Grateful Dead on the train's intercom system LOL. And then the Doors. I was totally wacko at that point. An hour later we arrived in our home town. The amount of bikes in the Netherlands is huge.

You try finding your bike back when you're soaring on Datura and three hits of acid LOL. Well, as far as self-realization's concerned, the themes of reincarnation, the wheel of samsara and the inevibility of death were starting to dawn hard and heavy on me.

We couldn't find our bikes, so we sat down to think about what to do next. Bad idea. Because now I had to look at my friend's face (conversation) and he was a bit ugly. And his face had Dr.Spock ears and the grin of The Joker. His eyes were rapidly changing from that of Yoda, Kermit, Freddy Krueger, a troll, a wizard... So, my friend concluded: "You're having a bad trip." And that was just the start! Alarm in the Superunknown!!!

We decided to walk to Sarasani (the oldest Cannabis selling coffeeshop in the Netherlands, since 1968), to get some coffee and tea, and wait for the chemicals to leave the system.

But I was convinced I would die that evening. My friend was going to kill me, indeed, he was Jack the Ripper himself walking along with me, and we would go to his abode. The cars! A car would drive straight at me and kill me! I became so overwhelmed by the thought (as we crossed a street) that I just fell down on the ground and closed my eyes. Friend pulling my jacket: "Stand up! Stand up!!!" I stand up, walk along with him. I had been lying on the ground in the middle of a road, cars approaching on all sides...

We continued walking. I was eternal, all my friends and family members are eternal. We have always existed and always will. Bad trip, but illuminating moment at the same time.

A tribe of Native American Indians was dancing on the street. I saw them! We walked on, finally arriving at Sarasani. There was an Etheopian man sitting there, his legs and hand eaten away by leprosy. Grateful Dead was playing in Sarasani too, although I couldn't remember which song it was. My acid dealer seemed to have lost one eye. But he was concerned about me and tried to calm me. But there were far too many snakes around there to get me calm and peaceful again.

And so that was my story, in a nutshell.

Around midnight I came down, the Datura still creating illusions left and right, but at least the brainstorm of Mighty Acid was over. Some small snakes in the grass, nothing too frightening. Went home, said something to my brother, to which he responded that what I said had no coherent meaning whatsoever. So I went to my room, looked at the The Wall poster on my wall. Hit the bong, closed my eyes, and went to sleep.

I remained somewhat frightened for at least three days. Had some short flashbacks every now and then as I watched people in the eyes and was reminded of that 'changing faces' hallucination.
 
This is a quote from the snuggle drugs thread, posted here to avoid that thread going off topic. It was posted December 17.

Ahuaeynjxs a dit:
Ok moderators, is this like too much, please do warn me, I don't wanna be banned again because I followed in other's footsteps !
Seems I only read the first half of the snuggle drugs thread initially. I decided to read the rest of it today. Interesting posts... Regarding being banned, you'd have to consistently break the forum rules for that. Why did you think you would be banned here?

I must say I feel a little awkward though about the amount of emotional response you seem to be sollicitating. Some have now taken up the "it's either him or me" / "them or us" attitude, not posting anymore until... well, until you somehow shut up. :?
 
My first homemade Ambrosia @ Ambrosia! :D
 
Regarding Amanita, you'll have to make yourself delicate for it somehow. Otherwise you can ingest what you want with no mystical journey. Cutting all the crap out of your body including psychoactives is a good start. But I suppose a lot more is required to lose physical presence and enter another place. There's definitely a 'trick' behind Amanita.

However, it can resident on the same level as Datura. Swearing you're awake in another world while sleeping or just tripping.

It came to my mind that the substances with a minor baseline effect, are possibily the most rewarding in the long-term. Shrooms and acid have powerful effects through just the ingestion, while other sacred plants need a lot of additional determination and navigation to produce full blown experiences.
 
Forkbender a dit:
NO ADVERTISING!!! :evil:
I didn't mention the address did I? I don't even have a webshop.
 
^might be a good idea? Or are there already too many of those around?
 
Yes, it's not really an option, unless I move to a much cheaper location and invest money into setting up a webshop. There are some big companies who dominate the market here. I can't possibly compete with their prices.
 
Okay.
 
OMG it's delicious! :D
 
Brugmansia a dit:
Do I see protein powder there? :P
Yes, whey protein and weight gainers. When I started the shop I was into weight lifting myself, mostly at home though (I don't like gyms: too expensive and lousy music).
 
[quote:3b8w962h]During the summer of 2000, while gathering specimens, I came upon several old specimens that had turned black. Each one was covered in a silvery gray long hairy mycelium; some of these hairy strands were more than 6 inches long. Closer inspection of these older black specimens with a hand lens revealed that the fuzz was erupting from the body of the mushroom and growing back into the ground; everywhere this fuzz touched the forest floor it had eaten the needles and leaf litter creating a bird nest like depression in the forest floor. Now was this fuzz the actual Amanita Muscaria plant; after all, the specimen is just the fruiting body? I had seen this hairy mold many times before; it appeared on specimens that had been water extracted then left in the jar for a couple of days. Had I, in fact, been resurrecting the herb of Life without knowing it?

Like everything else dealing directly with the herb of Life in this book, it was time to experiment; time to see if the Amanita Muscaria lived up to its ancient name Ambrose “not mortal.
 
" "it's either him or me" / "them or us" "

I dont know anyone who thinks that . Thats how you see it . I have nothing and i`m sure nobody else has anything against Ahuaeynjxs or esoterics .

I cant speak for anyone else i can only say my opinion :-

"Things have got to be kept in rational limits . I`m not dictating what rational is . The forum decides . Who gives a fuck if someone talks shit sometimes , but when they start anouncing themselves to be superior or the messiah things are going to far .

No bias , so before you come in a thread spitting fire read it first . Nobody treated Ahuaeynjxs badly . He came to the forum and was very disrespectfull and insulting . He was asked several times to stop . He didnt . So people talked to him how he was talking to them .

No preaching ( and that means you to ) .

If you want to get snotty with people because of their choice of words make an oficial list of words that arent allowed to be used .




"I don't wanna be banned again "

Again ?



And betwen you and me stick your not so subtle administrator threats up your arse" .
 
Nice CM! Such info is greatly appreciated.

It are always secrets and tricks behind such ancient sacred plants that possibily lead to the gate of a world they hold within.

Anyone who searches extensively on the net also gets to know that nightshade plants weren't witchcraft. Witchcraft consisted of many ingredients, and henbane or the mandrake were just one ingredient of them in very tiny amounts. Perhaps Amanita's need additional help from other plant material, too.

It's hard to get reliable info on these subjects, but the plants just had too much of a central role in mankind's magical history, so they can't be just poor or not worth it. They may be even an equal magic it in as the substances we're using in this modern time if used in the right brew.
 
Popcorn phylosophy?

Let`s say the sun\moon\earth were all ones just stars...

The (sun) being the brighest at at a point, shining upon a less brighter star (moon) wich reflected it`s glow upon the third, possibly even less brighter star.
in turn shining back upon the sun creating a loop, allowing life to form on the third "star" somehow...

Just a thought that came through while sliding on a trembling frozen lake, by moonlight.
 
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