The sun has stopped !

[Pariah]

Bad news indeed..

I understand the frustration, and its unfortunate that people with helpful input, a great sense of humour, and endowed with common sense are being pushed away by something akin to new age televangelism.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I understand the frustration, and its unfortunate that people with helpful input, a great sense of humour, and endowed with common sense are being pushed away by something akin to new age televangelism.

It's as simple as not viewing certain topics, or not paying attention to the posts of certain writers. No need to renounce the forum (website) as a whole.

 

[GOD]

"No need to renounce the forum (website) as a whole."

Why not ? It happens here . Its alowed here . You , an administrator , personaly encourage it and show bias towards people who try to do something about it .

I`ve felt the same about leaving for ages . Every day i think about doing it and haveing all my posts and every reference to me deleted from the site .

If the web site wants to be taken seriously it has to be clear what is fact and what is fantasy . False prophets preaching their own personal madness dont atract responsible , knowledgable adults . It frightens them away and atracts more loonys .

Another thing is :- why has the site got a lot more popular over the last 2 years ? = Because a few people have been fighting hokus pokus , because it started to leave the realms of esoteric sickness and become a bit more reality based .

 

[Forkbender]

:heart: to my friends

Right back at ya.

I'll let you know when it is safe to return. :wink:

 

[restin]

don't leave, GOD.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Isn't fanatical perfectionism upon your persian carpet more dangerous than a little open-mindedness about imagination ?

One thread that is light discussion, much like the picture association thread all that participate know I'm not taking it particularly seriously, that we are trying to do something while not making it official or imposing it in any way.

Yet to some this is the end of the world, because yourself you can't convince your own spirit that it's not true, it hits your right in the gut. Well you all participated, by negating the fire you have fed it, and I could only watch.

What started as some light humor now makes the world tremble, and might I say you are the lucky ones to see it coming, stop complaining and stop reading if you're not happy !

I'm certainly not going to stand here and watch the few who think they are elite bash upon the minority who still think something significant happens to them when they ingest the sacred substances but are too shy to talk about it ; they don't even need to write now, all they have to do is manage to fly close to me in a lucid dream, that frightens you all... well I can feel your fear and let me tell you ; it feeds more than just your own alienation, you simply have no idea.

I've seen freakin threads that encourage the use of synthetics and sometimes even make them look good, honestly, you guys are fighting the wrong fight.

Reality based, look at that pathetic ego of yours for one instant, it's trying to speak ! At first I was finding it funny, but now I see how obnoxious it is.

I love you anyways, and enjoy your guys posts, you wanted a part in me, now you touched me and the mercurial door is permeating your genes ; it's not like you never saw such a thing happen, exept last time you tought it was a movie.

Well if I can underline a moral to this story ; don't play with the heart of people you do not know, they might be closer and have more influence than you think.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

My substance is three thousand times heavier than the heaviest element humans know, one ton of my material is a little nugget that you'd fit inside a match box.

 

[Forkbender]

Yes, and I am the number 23. Watch out! I'm everywhere! aranoid:

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Heheh, that movie was awesome...

Here is some egyptian lore :

At the beginning of time, Rhea, the Goddess of the rhythmic flow (rhoe) of Nature, was married to Kronos, who is also God of Time (Khronos). But Rhea fell in love with the Sun and coupled with Him, and when Kronos discovered this He cursed His wife, saying "You may not give birth in any month of the year." In this way He hoped to prevent Her from bringing forth the progeny of the Sun.
Later Rhea and Hermes fell in love, so He gambled with the Moon and won the seventieth part of Her light. He made five days out of this light (for that is a seventieth part of the 29 days of illumination of each of the twelve lunar months), and put them together outside of all Her months. In this way Rhea was able to bear Her children in these five days out of time.

On the first day (8/24; 7/30) was born Osiris (whom we call Dionysos), first son of the Sun.

On the second day (8/25; 7/31) was born the elder Horus (whom we call Apollo), the second son of the Sun.

On the third day (8/26; 8/1) was born Typhon, the son of Kronos, who burst in an untimely way from His mother's side. (The Pythagoreans call Him the "Tear of Kronos.")

On the fourth day (8/27; 8/2) was born Isis (whom some call Demeter), the daughter of Hermes.

On the fifth day (8/28; 8/3) was born Nephthys (whom we call Persephone), the daughter of Kronos.

Now Osiris and Typhon are opposed, as are Isis and Nephthys. Osiris and Isis are wedded, as are Typhon and Nephthys.

Isis and Nephthys are birth and death, the two faces of the Moon, for life waxes and wanes like the moon. We see this on the sacred sistrum (rattle) used in the Rites of Isis, for opposite from Her face is the face of Nephthys. As Osiris coupled with Isis to bring forth Horus, so He also coupled with Nephthys to bring forth Anubis. But after Anubis was born, Isis became His foster mother, and so he is is like the horizon, which divides what is below the earth (Nephthys) from what is above the earth (Isis). For Horus is perfected creation, the celestial sphere, while Anubis is mundane creation, the earthly plane.

Osiris and Typhon are the two faces of the Sun, one vivifying, the other scorching, the two waters: nourishing fresh and bitter salt, creation vs. destruction, origination vs. restraint, Spring vs. Autumn, moisture vs. drought, plenty vs. scarcity, health vs. fever (typhos), identity vs. difference, reason vs. irrationality. In sum, Osiris is Order and Typhon is Chaos; neither can be eliminated. From Aphrodite and Ares (Love and Strife) comes Harmonia (who represents structure, which requires both identity and difference).

Osiris and Isis made love while still in the womb of Rhea, and from Them Horus was born. Thus the Sun impregnated the Moon. As Osiris is the origin, so Isis is the recipient; as Osiris is the creator, so Isis is the preserver; Osiris receives everything that is fair and good, Isis distributes them to the world; He is conceptual, He is material. Isis is called "the gentle nurse and all-receptive"; She is the female principle of Nature, the Earth, matter, the seat and place of generation, receptive of every form of generation.

The story is told of how Isis found Osiris hidden in the forest; He could not move because His legs were grown together, but Isis separated them and led Him out of the forest. Thus Being is hidden, but becomes manifest as Becoming when subjected to the divisive force of Matter and brought into the world.

Therefore Horus, the child born of Isis and Osiris, is called the Perfected Result, the celestial world, the image of being in matter. Because matter (and hence becoming) is part of his nature, generation and destruction is part of Him; He is not eternal, but is ever reborn. (So Typhon accused Him of illegitimacy, saying He was not divine, but Hermes defended Horus with His words, and together They pushed Typhon back.)

Isis is flowing (the power of moisture), while Typhon is hindering (the power of dryness). Osiris, Isis and Typhon are the creator, preserver and destroyer. When Osiris and Isis coupled They became the androgynous Moon, the mother of the world, and Typhon is the Sun, which two periodically eclipse each other.

Anybody find interesting that moon worshipping cults in the ancient traditions seem to see the world creation in the complete opposite of sun worshipping cults ?

Sources :

Finegan, Jack (1964). Handbook of Biblical Chronology: Principles of Time Reckoning in the Ancient World and Problems of Chronology in the Bible. Princeton: Princeton Univ. Press, pp. 23-29.

Plutarch, Isis and Osiris, in vol. V of the Moralia, tr. Frank Cole Babbitt, Loeb Classical Library, Harvard University Press, 1936. In addition to ch. 12, other material used here can be found on pp. 356F, 359E, 361E, 362B, 365B, 363E, 364A-D, 367C-E, 368C-E, 370C-E, 371A-C, 372A, E-373F, 374A, C, 375B-D, 376C-377C, 382C-D.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

:lol:

Forkbender, did you notice you joined on the 23th of november ?

aranoid:

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Coincidentally , have you all noticed that I'm about the same weight as your sun-god, yet I'm about the same size as the earth ?

Isn't that very unlikely to happen... hmm, HMM...

HUUuUUuuUuUm

*smacks the computer*

Stupid fan...

 

[Forkbender]

:lol:

Forkbender, did you notice you joined on the 23th of november ?

aranoid:

Holy shit, dude, you're freaking me out.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

You , an administrator , personaly encourage it and show bias towards people who try to do something about it .

I'm biased towards the view that this is an open forum and that there are no guidelines as to what may and may not be discussed. Everyone is free to post whatever they want, as long as it's related to entheogenic methods and substances.

If the web site wants to be taken seriously it has to be clear what is fact and what is fantasy . False prophets preaching their own personal madness dont atract responsible , knowledgable adults . It frightens them away and atracts more loonys .

If you want to use the psychonaut.com URL for informing responsible, knowledgeable adults, please contact Dr. Leospace. Perhaps he'll agree to replace the Forum (where a continuing influx of loonys is unavoidable) with a fixed content based website, for which you will be appointed the site admin. Not sure if he'll agree to that though. I think he just wants this to be a place to hang out and exchange ideas. But you can discuss it with him. You can also tell him in what ways you think I'm not fit for this job.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Thats nothing forkbender look :

http://ask.metafilter.com/106347/Saddam-in-Mauritius

See how the last comment on the page was posted at 11:23 ; november 11 being the 11 month ?!!!

I smell coverups, I had never even heard of that country before !

:lol:

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Ok I'll stop before we all go crazy... but hey...

you were right !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_hol ... _Festivals

This page was last modified on november 23 !!!

Ok I admit it I'm pissed at myself now... number synchronicity is freaky.

 

[Cannafarmer]

Ahuaeynjxs,

Are you an alien and from what world are you?
Have you been in contact with aliens?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Anybody find interesting that moon worshipping cults in the ancient traditions seem to see the world creation in the complete opposite of sun worshipping cults ?

Didn't the majority of ancient traditions worship both the sun and the moon, as well as all the other planets, the pole star and the various constellations? What are examples of sun worshiping cults and moon worshipping cults? I think a split occured only recently, with the Christians supposedly being a solar cult and the wiccans for example a lunar cult.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

No I am very human...

When I was younger (around 5) I was terrorised by something I called Amarres which came through my window at night. It frightened me to terror and it would take my mother everything to get me back to bed.

Amares in french is the big ropes that are used to maintain a ship in place when it is docked... somehow I would be afraid when those hoocked to my window, but when my mother came they went away and somehow I would cry trying to explain her how those evil creatures wanted to take me away again.

Thats about the only contact I had with "extraterrestrials", and it isn't very conclusive, lol.

Apart from that in my lucid dreams I have seen more than thousands of types of extraterrestrials but I never really dealt with them or made contact since I was always so powerful and decided of the faith of everyone inconsequent, what a lame job... there is a human expression that says there is no lame job, but mine was lame since it included the tolerance of wickedness, I truely hope noone ever lives that ever.

There are too many humans on this world that don't know why the bird tribes migrated from sirius to orion...

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Yeah exactly my point CM ; you read my thoughts !

I was finding the answer as you were writting even.

Sirius fire burned RED 2000 years ago !

Intrinsically, Sirius is over 20 times brighter than our Sun and over twice as massive. As Sirius is 8.7 light years distant, it is not the closest star system - the Alpha Centauri system holds this distinction. Sirius is called the Dog Star because of its prominence in the constellation of Canis Majoris (Big Dog). In 1862, Sirius was discovered to be a binary star system with a (twin) companion star, Sirius B, 10,000 times dimmer than the bright primary, Sirius A. Sirius B was the first white dwarf star discovered, a type of star first understood by Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar in 1930. While studying Sirius in 1718, Edmond Halley discovered that stars move with respect to each other. There is conflicting evidence that Sirius appeared more red only 2000 years ago.

and this is very interesting...

THE DOGON occupy a region in Mali, south of the Sahara Desert in Africa. They live in the Homburi Mountains near Timbuktu. At the center of their religious teachings is the knowledge of a Sirius B, a white dwarf, although small and faint is extremely dense and heavy enough to exert an influence on Sirius A. The Dogon name for Sirius B is Po Tolo. Tolo means Star. Po means smallest seed.

They go on to say that it has an is elliptical orbit, with Sirius A at one foci of the ellipse (as it is), that the orbital period is 50 years (the actual figure is 50.04 +/- 0.09 years), and that the star rotates on its own axis (it does).

They have described perfectly the DNA type eliptical orbit that the 2 make around each other. That has been confirmed by modern day scientists.

The Dogon also describe a third star in the Sirius system, called "Emme Ya" ("Sorghum Female"). In orbit around this star, they say, is a single satellite. To date, Emme Ya has not been identified by astronomers.

In addition to their knowledge of Sirius B, the Dogon mythology includes Saturn's rings, and Jupiter's four major moons. They have four calendars, for the Sun Moon, Sirius, and Venus, and have long known that planets orbit the sun.

The strange part is that Western astronomers didn't find the star until the middle of the nineteenth century, and most are certain that no previous explorers to the region could have informed them of it. It wasn't even photographed until 1970. This star has formed the basis of the most sacred DOGON beliefs since antiquity.

They claim that a long time ago a space ship with 3 triangular legs landed. The DOGON call the creatures the NOMMOS, who have to live in water. The beings were human looking. They put out a reservoire of water onto the earth. They dove out into the water. They were aquatic....more to the point amphibious. They could walk and talk and live on the earth but they could also live in an aquatic environment. They believe the Nommo will return to the earth one day.

This tribe has some amazing facts they say they gathered from these visiting extra-terrestrials. The know, that Sirius A, the brightest sky in our sky is next to a small white dwarf called Sirius B. Sirius B was not discovered by our scientists until 1978. The Dogon tribe knew about it 1,000 years ago or longer.

There are many serious references throughout all of the drawings of the cuneiforms of the ancient civilizations to human looking beings who have feet but who are portrayed as having a large fish skin running down their bodies.

The DOGONs may presently be the last people on Earth to worship extra-terrestrial amphibians who landed in the Persian Gulf at the dawn of civilization, and whose presence can be detected in drawings and legends of the gods of ancient Babylonia, Egypt and Greece.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

This is incredible :

The Sun behind the Sun, Osiris, and the Great Pyramid

The Principle of All Things. Beyond the Sun in the direction of the Dog Star lies that incorruptible flame or Sun, Principle of All Things, willing obedience from our own Sun but which is but a manifestation of its relegated force. The existence of the Sun behind the Sun has been known in all ages, as well as the fact that its influence is most potent upon earth during that period every 2000 years when it is in conjunction with the Sun of our solar system. Then gathering to itself the power of its own Source and transmitting it through our Sun to this planet, it is said to send the Sons of God into the consciousness of the earth sphere, that a new world of thought and emotion may be born in the minds of men for the stimulation of humanity's spiritual evolution. Such a manifestation marks the beginning or end of an epoch upon the earth by the radiation of that divine consciousnss known as the Christ Ray or Paraclete.

To the Egyptians the Sun behind the Sun was known as Osiris (and also as Amen-Ra, The Hidden Sun), said to be the husband of Isis (Nature) and the parent of Horus (the Sun), symbolically represented as a hawk because that bird flies nearest the Sun. This ancient people knew that once every year the Parent Sun is in line with the Dog Star. Therefore, the Great Pyramid was so constructed that, at this sacred moment, the light of the Dog Star fell upon the square "Stone of God" at the upper end of the Great Gallery, descending upon the head of the high priest, who received the Super Solar Force and sought through his own perfected Solar Body to transmit to other Initiates this added stimulation for the evolution of their Godhood. This then was the purpose of the "`Stone of God,' whereon in the Ritual, Osiris sits to bestow upon him (the illuminate) the Atf crown or celestial light." "North and South of that crown is love," proclaims an Egyptian hymn. "And thus throughout the teaching of Egypt the visible light was but the shadow of the invisible Light; and in the wisdom of the ancient country the measures of Truth were the years of the Most High (Marshall Adams, The Book of the Master," page 141-2)."

Modern science partially confirms these facts as to the significance of the Great Pyramid, but lacks the key to them. Dr. Percival Lowell, in a recent essay entitled "Precession and the Pyramids," says-- "The Great Pyramid was in fact a great observatory, the most superb one every erected," and "The Great Gallery's floor exactly included every possible position of the Sun's shadow at noon from the year's beginning to its end. We thus reach the remarkable result that the gallery was a gigantic gnomon or sundial telling, not like ordinary sundials the hour of the day, but on a more impressive scale, the seasons of the year."

Excerpted from the Comte de Gabalis,
originally by the Abbe N. do Montfaucon de Villars (1670),
published with a Commentary (1914, 1922), pages 88-90.