The sun has stopped !

[Ahuaeynjxs]

And when people think they're GOD it's all right ? :lol:

I never said I was superior or any form of savior... I just said I was Sirius B and it happens to be very influential upon the myths and dreams of this world, and perhaps in other ways I will discover. You'd have to be a superior loony to think this made me superior in any way !

I'm not the kind of guy to insult in the first place, if I was disrespectful it was because someone said : "This is not right" and then didn't provide any explanation. This is to me the worst kind of insult and my reply in that light was very gentle.

I was banned many times for forums for obscure reasons... people were so highly emotional about me and I hadn't even begun to talk about stars and the amanita, I felt the same thing here and tought I'd be off eminently.

Somehow the arguments were always with the god-like administrator on the forums, sometimes they censored me so much my posts didn't even make sense anymore.

This is an interesting parallel, but I never told anyone to stick their threats up their arse, did I ? :?

I have seen often this black myselium like nest digesting everything around, the mushroom exoenzymes seem to be very powerful to digest plant matter, it looks like a phoenix nest with it's ashes and the white fluffy young bird duvet

I have yet to experience that LSD like effect, I'm looking forward to it however, here the amanita is still legal, what a bad move from them to illegalise the herb of immortality, they will most likely get attacked by one of the mushroom cults to this day, which BTW I say is bad, because using the mushroom for spirituality and powers without establishing symbiosis with it is WRONG. The mushroom HATES to be deified, it is the son of man, not the sun of god.

Yeah it is delicious, for those who already have symbiosis with the mushroom, merely by getting in the woods and breathing the air spores get in your lungs and germinate. Then the mycelium can morph into smaller forms and "live" within you, if you are nice to it it's nice to you, more people have it in them than they think.

For other people who take medicines that kill it (it's very sensitive) then the taste of the juice is heartwrenching and makes them want to puke. Thats a nice looking specimen BTW, the copper color is impressive it must have indeed been delicious, did you dilute it like it was said ?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

I came to a similar conclusion Carebear, since from the third dimention all things in higher dimention look like scorching fire, I assumed that as the galaxy took expansion that everything started to spin slower and eventually "precipitated" in our dimention, so perhaps we always existed here and always did, as eternal beings, just like you have seen on the datura CM. Perhaps someone or some "godess" is responsible for precipitating us into the third dimention, like in the old stories, following my hypothesis that gods and godesses were all human previously, it makes sense.

Thats why earth needs us and I'm proposing to cleanse the holographic logoi planes, the vehicles were ready this morning, but noone came by. I was left to make love to my woman in peace, like it has been for such a long while. I'm amazed at why I never get tired of dreaming of this, I seem to always be fascinated as to why I always deserve two woman in my bed, and as fascinated about how aroused and horny it can get.

Anyways you're right brumangsia, but did you read al the posts from last time you participated ? I have revealed the sacred brew, it has been elsewhere thanks to a very old painting of "Jesus" as the lord of plants.

MAOI (potentiator) - Psylocybes (visionary) - Amanitas (spirit acceleration) - Poppy (being able not to freak out) - Cannabis (anti-nausea, anti-free radical oil to protect brain)

DO NOT ever try this if you don't have a sitter AND are experienced in very intense journeys because this is the real deal, the real "fast boat" to enlightenment.

Of course I say this, but it was an experience of the age of pisces, to pierce through you had to have the full experience, in the age of aquarius, you only need symbiosis with the mushroom, the laws have changed again, just like the purpose of creation.

Thats why I haven't attempted it, I know we are still somehow in the age but the constellation is so far from our sun now that it must not have much influence left, however it is said that as long as the sun shines as it is, we will still be in this age. I have attained the visionary experience with the equivalent of 120 grams of amanita, without the other herbs, I would assume however that it would be much smoother with the help of the other herbs, manner of speech... the ride is hardly smooth or pleasing.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

I'd like to see CM if we cannot twist the sidereal zodiac to fit it upon the solar zodiac, see what I found from Dr Shepherd Simpson's site, it related to the vedic zodiac as the sidereal zodiac :

As its based on the actual positions of the stars, the Sidereal Zodiac gives a description of the heavens which is much more realistic and accurate than the Tropical Zodiac. This is because, as the stars move with the Movement of the Ages, accurate observation of the stars can be used to redefine the positions of this zodiac to agree with reality. The Tropical Zodiac in contrast is frozen in time.

However, the Sidereal Zodiac still has problems in that it is an oversimplification of what is really 'above' us.

The first problem is that it still insists that there are twelve signs, even though in reality there are thirteen, Ophiuchus being the 10th sign of the Real Solar Zodiac.

The second problem is that it insists that the Signs are all the same length: one twelfth of a year. The heavens just aren't that tidy. The actual lengths of the signs vary from seven days for Scorpius to forty-five days for Virgo. Gemini is the only Sign whose actual size is close to one twelfth of the year.

The third problem is that the Sidereal Zodiac still insists that Aries is the first Zodiac Sign. It has lost the ancient connection with the Ages. In fact Pisces is the Sign at the Equinox and is therefore the first Sign of the year according to the Ancient definition.

Yes the interpretations you seem to have highlighted are about the planets, like venus trine mercury etc... where do the constellations fit in all this ?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Yes the interpretations you seem to have highlighted are about the planets, like venus trine mercury etc... where do the constellations fit in all this ?

Depending on the sign they are in, planets can be strong (exalted) or weak (debilitated). And the aspect you mentioned, namely a trine, is a 120 degrees angle, in other words a multiple of 30 degrees, the standard size of each house and sign.

Regarding the constellations, the 'original' Vedic zodiac is comprised of 27 nakshatras, each 13°20' in size (the approximate distance the Moon traverses each day). Each of these naksatras directly refers to one of the bright stars near the ecliptic, yet you can't make a perfect map for these constellations either. Not all the stars fall in their allotted 13 degree section, but Vedic astrologers never minded about that.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

so basically could we use the 13 sign of the solar zodiac and use that instead of the other chart to determine houses ; and re-interpret ?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

More holographic tecnology, right in our faces, a kid after being explained some physics wouldn't even be fooled...

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=q5NNh6WnV ... re=related

Don't always beleive what you see !

War you say ?

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMf3towV ... re=related

Of course don't beleive all you hear, learn to think for yourself about all this !

I don't think they're extraterrestrials, I feel they're from here alright...

Gotta love this presentation ! I like the way he fits the movies into all this

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

And this :

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9wnkR0N ... annel_page

It amazes me how the movie with the most ultimate holographic symbolism (as subconscious programmation tools) are often not very "known" movies or that are favored by the masses, they often go right through and have incredibly high budgets. No wonder I don't go much listen to those movies anymore, my life is so much more magnitudinal than any of these.

Do you see now why I say it is crucial that the mushroom be seen for what it is ? Our only begotten son... do you consume your son to acquire meta-physical power over an illusory matrix ?

NO !!!

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

so basically could we use the 13 sign of the solar zodiac and use that instead of the other chart to determine houses ; and re-interpret ?

No, that's not possible. The signs all correspond to one of the four elements fire, earth, air and water. You can't divide thirteen by four. The signs also correspond to one of these three: fixed, movable and dual. Again, you can't divide thirteen by three. Then you have their polar qualities of masculine and feminine. As far as the astrological system is concerned, 12 is the number of choice. Vedic astrology actually uses two systems: the system of 12 signs, and a zodiac based on the magical number 9, the 27 nakshatras. Vedic astrology's standard predictive system of vimsottari dashas is based upon the Moon's position in these nakshatras.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

But since all the signs aren't equal in size, wouldn't it be possible to divide them so ? Because if I understand it well those aren't the important part in the astrology, the planets are more, but the interpretation would be quite different.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

It's lame that you have to close shop... your place looks awesome. I would have loved to visit you sometime !

Yeah it's possible to fall asleep on a high dose amanita trip, and you salivate and sweat like a snail, thats why it's essential to have a sitter on those trips in case you choke on your saliva or something.

You didn't say how was the ambrosia effect ? did you eat the body of the shroom too ?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

but the interpretation would be quite different.

But what I'm saying is that you can't come up with an interpretation for the 13th sign, because the interpretations as we use them now are all based on the four elements etc. For example, Leo is a fixed (sattva guna) and fiery sign, and is thus related to leadership, pride and ego. The sign opposite Leo is Aquarius, which is a movable (rajo guna) and airy sign, and thus has an interpretation that is also opposite that of Leo, for Aquarius is related to freedom and independence of thought, humanitarianism, equality, community etc. In the book "Predictive Astrology, an insight" Dinesh S. Mathur describes the qualities of all the signs in detail, using nothing but the natural division of elements etc.

I believe we shouldn't try to reinvent astrology, simply add to it. Some lamentable reinventions were the introduction of the tropical zodiac, all kinds of speculative house systems, and making Uranus, Neptune and Pluto lords of Aquarius, Pisces and Scorpio respectively (formerly ruled by Saturn, Jupiter and Mars). Some good additions were the sextile, trine and square aspects for psychological interpretation and transit analysis, and the inclusion of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto for the same purposes.

So what I'm suggesting is that we leave the Vedic system of calculation intact. This system predates the introduction of the tropical zodiac in Greece, and the introduction of other house systems and new sign lords in the modern era. The Vedic system works with a division of 12 equal signs and houses, as well as 27 nakshatras. From my experience there's no need for alternative interpretations.

I think my Belgian friend Dhira Krishna has accurately determined how the zodiac should be mapped. His ayanamsa has proven to be extremely reliable. I've used his ayanamsa to determine that the Age of Aquarius (air, movable) will start around 2465 AD.

Teehee, while looking for information about the Dhira ayanamsa, I came across a text that doesn't mention my name, but was written by me in 2007. Oh, I found my name now. It's an interesting text I think, so I'm reposting it here (notice the lines in bold). First the question by a member named Mridani:

Dear Astrologers,
I was wondering, how sidereal astrology fits into this statement of
the Srimad Bhagavatam, written 5000 years ago. Nowadays the days
and nights are equal when the sun is passing through Pisces and Virgo.

SB 5.21.4: When the sun passes through Mesha [Aries] and Tulya; [Libra],
the durations of day and night are equal. When it passes through the
five signs headed by Vrishabha [Taurus], the duration of the days
increases [until Cancer], and then it gradually decreases by half an
hour each month, until day and night again become equal [in Libra].

mrd

There is no 'right' zodiac. We living entities are part of this vast
universe, and the nature of our experience is reflected in many
directions. Using the sidereal zodiac you see the reflection mapped out
against the factual night sky, and when you use the tropical zodiac,
you're practicing a type of solar astrology, much like Chinese astrology
etc. You could also base an entire system of astrology on the Moon
alone, or even closer by, the palm of your hand, or your DNA. All of
these things are related, in a fractal/ geometrical/ numerological/
vibrational way. That is why many different astrological techniques and
systems all seem to work.

Of course Srimad-Bhagavatam is describing a tropical zodiac, because the
version of the Bhagavata Purana we have was penned down about 1700 years
ago, a time when most astrologers in the region (Persia, Greece etc.)
were using the tropical zodiac. There was not much difference between
the two, we all know the story.

The problem here is our assumption that all of the Bhagavata Purana was
written or composed about 5000 years ago. That is very unlikely. If you
insist on believing that, we cannot have any type of scientific
discussion here. Another problem: thinking "spotless Purana" means all
statements in the text are correct. You're taking an enormous risk if
you base your life on the assumption that certain books and teachers are
100% reliable. Sure they may have (had) the best of intentions, but like
you and I they were all products of their time and culture. In this
modern information age we must become openminded, and adjust our
outdated worldviews, become realistic. Broadminded means going beyond
your self-imposed or acarya-imposed limitations as to what is true and
what is not. If you really want to become enlightened, you must take the
bold step of rejecting the concept of "apaurusheya" ("not written by a
mortal human being", i.e. directly inspired by God). No text whatsoever
is apaurusheya. And there are no "pure devotees", only "very
enthusiastic devotees". "Devotee" simply describes a certain state of
mind, it has absolutely nothing to do with enlightenment, and in the
context of this discussion: it has nothing to do with having perfect
knowledge (about certain aspects of astrology for example).

Another assumption is that Vedic astrology developed prior to or
independently from the other branches of astrology. True, the naksatras
are unique to the Indian system, but many other elements obviously have
a Greek origin. People in those days didn't just trade spices, they also
exchanged ideas.

For me the sidereal zodiac, and specifically the Dhira ayanamsa, works
perfectly, and I have tested it using "randomized, double-blind,
placebo-controlled" methods (the modern scientific way). For most
astrologers, or most astrological techniques rather, the Lahiri ayanamsa
works fine too.

Ivar

> So, this discussions here are all based on relative truths, vise absolute
> truths???
> mrd

Not sure what you mean with this question, all I was saying is that astrology
is a science. Right now there is one weakness about the Vedic system,
and that is the disagreement on the exact value of ayanamsa.

I believe the exact ayanamsa will be found, and it may be very close to
the Dhira ayanamsa.

The tropical zodiac is not useful for Vedic techniques, but I don't see
why the two zodiacs should be polarized into a "true" and "false"
zodiac. They may both be "true", but on different levels.

I believe the exact ayanamsa and the exact starting points of the ages
will be discovered. But they will be found by looking at the sky and
using our "modern" methods of astronomical measurement, and enlightened
reasoning.

If Sri Yukteswar's explanation of the yugas is correct, and if it is
indeed true that Srimad-Bhagavatam became known in its current form only
around 500 AD, then it follows that we must be wary of considering this
an authoritative text, because technically it would have been compiled
at the onset or middle of the astronomical age of Kali (the age of darkness)!

Srimad-Bhagavatam, Bhagavad-gita, Mahabharata, the Bible, the Koran and
the Torah, seen from an astronomical point of view, are all scriptures
composed in a time when civilization was deteriorating. True, there is a
lot of far-out scientific and astronomical information in some of these
texts, because not all knowledge was lost instantly, BUT we must be wary
of accepting any of these texts, or statements in them, as the absolute
truth. The way out of Kali-yuga is rejecting (or at least critically
examining) material composed during the Kali-yuga. This is very
difficult because these texts affirm their own authority so much (and
current followers stress such affirmations). Kind of weird that on one
hand Srimad-Bhagavatam confirms it was composed during the Kali-yuga (at
least some years after the departure of Krishna), yet claims to be an
authoritative text, "spotless". I used to believe that.

If indeed we are in the Dvapara-yuga now, I'd say modern texts are
potentially more reliable than Vedic texts! That difference is just
going to increase as time passes on.

I'm very much interested in figuring out the true ayanamsa, and
collecting different reasons as to why this ayanamsa works. The universe
is an electrical system, and the ayanamsa must be in some way related to
a certain object somewhere in space, that our Sun is connected to. The
binary system theory would explain why the signs function the way they
do. Knowing how the zodiac relates to the binary dynamic, would help us
understand scientifically why astrology works the way it does.

There is a scientific reason why astrology works. A reason that will
make so much more sense than "God created it that way." Yes, "God"
created it a certain way, but there are always explanations for why
things work the way they do. Quantum physics and other sciences
(astronomy, geometry, numerology etc.) will eventually show how and why
our lives are related to the stars.

When I use the word "science" I'm not talking about the hardcore atheist
science, focused mainly on disproving the Bible, rather the truly
openminded investigation of the dynamics behind natural phenomena.

Science and religion are coming together. And as they get closer and
closer, the scientists have to give up their denial of a spiritual
dimension, and the religionists have to give up their idea of a supreme
being. There's only us chickens in the universe. We are equal beings,
and the universe is our relations with eachother.

Astronomy (outer space) and shamanism / the use of psychedelics (inner
space), these have always been the pillars of both "science" and
"religion". They have become separated exactly during the age of Kali
(according to Yukteswar's calculations): the Inquisition. It's time they
are combined again.

What was Soma? What did it do to the priests who consumed it? Why did
they consider it so sacred? What is ego-death, and why is it so important?

Mrdani, all of this may sound pretty outrageous, I'm well aware of that.
I have always been concerned with finding out the truth, and the
ISKCON version of the truth just didn't add up, even though I really
wanted to believe it at first. It started with rejecting certain
statements by Srila Prabhupada (like women are less intelligent than
men), then Krishnadas Kaviraja, and then questioning much of the
Bhagavatam. Because at that point in my life I devoted myself to truth
rather than a certain set of religious beliefs, information was allowed
to poor into my awareness, and this process has been going on for about
8 years now, of which the last four years have been especialy
enlightening. Still not part of any group or philosophical system, I
keep adding information and concepts to my internal database, adjusting
my previous world views, and it all makes more sense by the day.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

It's lame that you have to close shop... your place looks awesome. I would have loved to visit you sometime !

Nah, it isn't that awesome. It's a very small shop in a very small town. It was nice being self-employed for a couple of years, with lots of time to study and work on side projects. Even if it costed some money, I think it was worth it. But I think it's time to move on soon.

Yeah it's possible to fall asleep on a high dose amanita trip, and you salivate and sweat like a snail, thats why it's essential to have a sitter on those trips in case you choke on your saliva or something.

OK. A high dose meaning anything above 5 or 7 grams?

You didn't say how was the ambrosia effect ? did you eat the body of the shroom too ?

No, I'm trying to resurrect the body.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Ah yes ! Don't forget to let it breathe sometimes, it needs fresh air but not much light.

It must not be soaked in water too, just enough so you don't see actual water in the mush.

Well anyways, it looks awesome, and it's named Ambrosia... I think thats uber cool hehe to bad it has to go, I was already imagining myself rolling a giant after the shop closure, thats still legal right ?

Yeah a dose that could make you fall asleep would be over 10-15 grams... thats when you get the dreamy effects, like you live both a dream and life at the same time, you kind of see double it's hard to explain, most people find this nauseating. A fun trip would be 5-10 grams in combination with normal shrooms and perhaps a light poppy tea.

Well the texts make sense to me... and you're right I wouldn't put Ophichius into the wheel, I'd put it as the middle because it's what it is, the serpant handler. (wormhole in the heart of hydrogen, thus the sun)

So what I propose wouldn't change much anything EXEPT that all the signs wouldn't be of equal size, I think it would nonetheless be dividable into quarters and tierces, just wouldn't be that equal.

The guy talking is saying lots and lots of contradiction from my perspective... the tropical zodiac isn't solar at all, and like you said the dates and position in each age isn't the same, so the first sign should be pisces... that makes alot of difference in the interpretation, I think it's important to have both the earth (sidereal or vedic zodiac) and the solar zodiac to fully encompass the nature of our experience since it is fractal and the sun is quite central.

You see what I mean ? It's logical, the constellations aren't the same size, the sun dosen't pass in each of them equally, and that means that the energies are being deflected by each according to their physical positions ! So that also means that there is no real date for transition into the aquarian age, right now the precession of the equinox is WAY passed pisces, and much bewteen the two ages, so it means the great year energies are being deflected by both constellations equally, they interweave, and by that understanding we can see how we are to become time in the coming age...

the big revelation here I'm trying to convey is that people will no longer be unique because of their soul or knowledge, but because of their water "scent", that makes ALOT of differences in social and everything dynamics, am I expressing myself clearly ?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

The guy talking is saying lots and lots of contradiction from my perspective...

Which guy? Me? :lol:

the big revelation here I'm trying to convey is that people will no longer be unique because of their soul or knowledge, but because of their water "scent", that makes ALOT of differences in social and everything dynamics, am I expressing myself clearly ?

To me it's not very clear yet.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Is the relationship between the mushroom and hydrogen in water clear at least ?

:?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Is the relationship between the mushroom and hydrogen in water clear at least ?

:?

To be honest, not yet.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

So how do you propose spores accelerate 180000 G ? (assuming 100 G would kill any human)

You think it's really a lever kind of principle ? Like... ok, NOW !

*squirts the spores out of the cannon*

I mean I couldn't have hoped for a better "proof" than this, do you deny the authenticity of this video ? I know I cannot put the relation much into words... you have to experience it, but still the physical principles are the same and can be understood even by one who does not seek the visionary experience, but merely seeks to establish sucessful symbiosis with the fungi...

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

So how do you propose spores accelerate 180000 G ? (assuming 100 G would kill any human)

You think it's really a lever kind of principle ? Like... ok, NOW !

*squirts the spores out of the cannon*

I guess that's basically what's being proposed on the page related to the video:

[quote:2jy2hk3e]Background

A variety of spore discharge processes have evolved among the fungi. Those with the longest ranges are powered by hydrostatic pressure and include “squirt guns

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Of course !

Basically the conclusion is a bunch of confused scientists who tried to come up with a mathematical model and basically found : nothing !

I would be releived if they did find something, beleive me, I'd like very much like to live in an "ordinary world" because it basically makes no difference for me.

But thats one engeneering feat lol... to have a squirt gun with that much torque you need something very powerful of a "muscle" to activate it, and if your gun is cone shaped in a drill shape it might help by concentrating the power of your "lever"... but where is the lever in the picture , basically nothing moves, it just SLAMS open. Turgor pressure ? that would mean that the membrance of the spirt gun can wisthand incredible pressure and like for spiderwebs, hydrogen bonding would be the only possible explanation.

What are our most knowledgeable members doing about this one ? Exept standing in awe with their jaw dropped ? :lol:

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Have you read the whole text ?

In addition to these ballistic questions, there is considerable uncertainty about the magnitude of the pressures that power spore discharge and the identity of the compounds responsible for generating these pressures. Previous authors have suggested that enormous turgor pressures might be required to discharge spores, requiring the accumulation of very high concentrations of ions and sugars [2], [14]. We address this using a pair of complementary spectroscopic methods to provide an inventory of inorganic ions and sugars. The spectroscopic data show that spore discharge mechanisms are driven by very modest levels of pressure that are characteristic of the majority of fungal cells.

So turgor pressure is ALREADY off the list, so if it's not pressure, and it's not ions, WHAT in heaven could it be ?!

2000 G ok... but 180000G and meters away ? Thats like a miracle every squirt when thinking about the enormous amount of air viscosity a virtually weightless spore has to face...