Allright,just read trough the whole thread, to make sure i didn't miss something.
Here's just my opinion on this "crisis".
- I am not disturbed by reading esoteric posts, as long as they aren't pushed in my face constantly or when they really don't fit the topic. I like hearing different points of views. If i think they are BS than i've learned something. And when i feel like it i will react, in a normal way,saying that i do not agree and give up my reasons. Discussion is good. Discussion is great. I do not have a lot of experience and i want to learn ,that's why i'm on this forum.
Discussions may be heavy,they may be hot. But this has to happen with respect for eachother.
-I have to admit i almost didn't read Ahua's posts untill now. This is because i just couldn't get a clue from what is stated in the first scentences, and the length of his posts discouraged reading them.
-Now I read them i mostly still don't get a thing from what he's saying, it's full of terms i don't know, an put in such way that i'm personally not attracted to spend hours of research to just understand one post
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This doen't have to be a problem,it's easy to ignore when you see a prticular post doen't interest you.
- The single posts of Ahua don't disturb me ,but the way he answers questions(actually he often doesn't) by just throwing another piece of text in your face that's impossible for a non-specialist to understand. (Or you can call me stupid if you wan't to :wink: ) When someone ask for clarification i think it's his task to answer the questions in an understandable way. Otherwise I do consider it as destroying the thread.
-Ahua,would you like to explain to me what you mean with te "finding six virtuous psychonauts" thing. Personally I don't see real classifications in someones "grade of virtuouspsychonautism.." Please do this in a way I can understand it. If it was just a joke or something i would like you to stop making such jokes ,as it seems to be not funny for a lot of members of this forum.
-I don't want to get Ahua banned, unless if he adapts somewhat more and doent spam every thread full of what seem to be random words.
I don't say it's your intention to make people angry (controversy is not a bad thing in my opinion) i just say that you have to see your way of showing other people your ideas gets more adapted. Otherwise i cannot evaluate you else than being a negative element on the forum. Now you seem to be siting in your tower of ivory and just throwing your wisdom/bullshit(as i still don't get a clue from it) to our heads.
-GOD : because i have already read many of your posts and i understand them i can form myself a better opinion about you. Shortly: for me 95% of the time you're a direct,rational,sometimes very funny source of trustable information and salty opinions. i really appreciate your expertise on many subjects. 5% of the time you seem to talk unadapted too. I just read parts of the holocaust thread too, and i thought: tell me your opion rather than making everyone feel a bit small not knowing what to say. But I don't really mind, you just want to hit us in the face to make us think. Only bad thing is that maybe some people will put the "arrogant prick"label on you. But probably you don't give a shit :wink: And it has to be said,such tacktics can be effective. keep on the good work.Don't take some things too personal. Just maybe think a little more before you write some stuff,don't go in auto-defense mode, you also have to keep threads from escalating in offtopic ego-struggles.
- CM: First i want to thank you, I believe you're a devoted web master and have done great things for the community (also in the dutch part of the forum). you seem like a guy i can learn much from,(not really the esoterics part, as most of those things don't interest me that much,although the're nice to hear about sometimes (the golden mean etc...)
I have no view clear on what the hell has happened here the last few days, but i don't think you've acted wrong. Opening this thread asap was a good idea,too bad that communication about doing it went wrong.
What i don't really understand is that you seem to choose only Ahua's side and not see the bad sides of his posts. I don't know what went wrong between GOD and you but please let it not affect your mind.
This is a fantastic forum, i really do not mind the admin being interested in esoterics as you don't force them on someone. They can even enrich the site. Keeping info away from people helps nothing(as a child i've never heard of psychedelics as being good things,but now i view them this way).
- CM&GOD: you've both enriched the community very much, each with a different approach,that's great. You have to forgive eachother and start again in my opinion. (damn i sound like a priest or something :lol: )
No seriously, if this thing keeps going it's no good for the community.
And i see my post is too long and not well written also..
I hope people don't take things i said wrong because of my small english vocabulary, don't take them personal, it's just my perception of things, i've have no 100%clear view on those things going on. Some of my advice sounds pretentious and arrogant i think,which is absolutely not my intention.
It's just,I love this forum and allmost all of the people on it,and i'm surely not the only one; too bad to see it being messed up like it's now..
But i have faith in the fact that it will be allright, if neccessary let things cool down for a little while,but don't stay away for too long, that's not going to help us either.
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(I edited the words between// : "Otherwise i cannot evaluate you as /antynthing else than/ a negative element on the forum". I forgot them yesterday,as was quite a sleepyhead.
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