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[Guest]

1) Do you think I've failed as a site administrator for this Psychonaut community in the way I handled the presence of new member Ahuaeynjxs?

Can't pronounce myself on this, didn't really followed the whole story. From my point of view, you're doing fine.

2) Is my personal interest in numerology, harmonics, sacred geometry and astrology annoying to you?

No, I don't believe in it at all, but as long as you don't try to impose it on me, I'm ok with it, people believes in what they want to believe, it's the whole "conversion" stuff that drives me mad.

3) What do you think about the way Ahuaeynjxs interacts with others?

I don't know the guy, haven't read a lot from him.

4) What do you think about the way GOD interacts with others?

Ahah, now that's an interesting question

I remember getting mad with him one year ago I think, then things calmed down between us, and he helped me with lots of things.

The thing is, I think we share the same "rational" view on the world, thus I tend to agree with what he says and therefore I am usually not the victim of his ire

I agree that he sometimes is a bit too passionated, but hey, GOD is GOD, he's the kind of person you have to take as a whole, with his defaults but also his qualities.

So GOD, even if I sometime think that you could be a bit more comprehensive when you give your opinions on stuff, I understand that it's just the way you are, and I don't think you're going to change. And that personally doesn't bother me.

What do you think about the way I interact with Ahuaeynjxs, GOD and all of you?

No comments

6) Does it bug you that some members want to discuss psychedelics in the context of esoteric issues, like the Mayan calendar, 2012, chakras, synchronicity, astrology etc.?

No, it doesn't bother me, unless this kind of thing appears in what I judge to be a serious conversation (from my point of view, once again), turning it into a fight between people who believe in it and people who don't.

I think this kind of stuff should be discussed in their own topics and not mentionned in a conversation that initially had nothing to do with it.

7) Or conversely: does it bug you that such discussions are invariable followed by ridicule?

That's what I just pointed out.

 

[restin]

I see. Yes, I would let someone express his opinion, nonetheless the others must also accept the opposite one.

 

[Guest]

This place smells like hippies.

\o/

 

[magickmumu]

1) Do you think I've failed as a site administrator for this Psychonaut community in the way I handled the presence of new member Ahuaeynjxs?

As far as I can tell you do a good job. I don't know the whole story.


2) Is my personal interest in numerology, harmonics, sacred geometry and astrology annoying to you?

Your personal interest do not annoy me.

3) What do you think about the way Ahuaeynjxs interacts with others?

I have not interacted with ayuaeniets that much. I don't realy know what he is about.
f you all find this ayuaeniets character so annoying, why not ignore him?


4) What do you think about the way GOD interacts with others?

To be Honest often I don't like the way he is interacting with others (including me) on this forum.

5) What do you think about the way I interact with Ahuaeynjxs, GOD and all of you?

I never had problems with you. we did not always agree, but it never got hostile.


6) Does it bug you that some members want to discuss psychedelics in the context of esoteric issues, like the Mayan calendar, 2012, chakras, synchronicity, astrology etc.?

If people want to disuse these ideas in context of psychedelics why not.
I am not a believer in 2012 or any sort of prophetic believe system or whatever.

7) Or conversely: does it bug you that such discussions are invariable followed by ridicule?

I never understood the need to ridicule.

 

[GOD]

"Fork and others"

I take it you mean me as one of the others ? I PMd you to talk about forks offer to open a thread where we could talk freely . You said you had talked to him about it and asked him to do it . I asked if he didnt do it could i open one . You said yes . I waited a little to see if fork would do it . He told me he didnt know how to word it . I went back to the front page and saw that caduceus hadnt waited and had opened a thread without waiting and without giving me the chance to open one .

Now hes tried to manipulate the discusion in the thread by asking questions wich define the discusion wrongly . Free talking is free talking , not talking around a set of questions that have little relevance to whats going on . The " What I would like to hear from all of you is the following: " also does this . Espoecialy the under lined words . It puts people in a position where they have to decide if they are for or against caduceus , me or anyone else . Thats not what its about and trying to reduce it to that level is in my opinion deeply disshonest and cowardly .

My answers .

1 Yes . I think you keep missusing this site to push your esoteric views . Arguments like this didnt happen untill you came to the site . Since then they are daily . We are continualy confronted with esoteric wierdness presented as fact and universal answers . Non of the other administrators have taken sides or encouraged mentaly confused ideas / people . They have all acted neutraly .

2 What has that got to do with anything i have said ? Absolutly nothing . Its a manipulation . No one that i have seen here is against people talking about things like that . The problem comes , i think , when you start preaching astrology . explaining things in your own private personal version of astrology as if its true . You have been told that at least 2 different times in threads by other people . The same goes for aya-wotsit , he keeps preaching that he is the holder of truthes and talking as if his fantasys are universal truths ..

3 i think hes playing atention seeking psycho games with the whole forum . Think about the confused things he says , when people point it out he starts acting normal for a few days . People who are realy mentaly ill in the way it comes over from him are ill because they cant see the diference between their fantasy world and reality . The fact that he can change his behaviour , either positively when people point his trouble making out to him , or negetively when caduceus joins a thread and encourages him , are not that ill they are playing games .

4 I try my best to be honest and helpfull . I dont deliberately cause trouble . I try my best to help this site and its members . I try to solve problems and give good information . I try to be fair , neutral and objective .

6 here we go again . Another manipulation . Its question 2 again .

7 That is not true . Its another blatant manipulation . Its exactly the same manipulation as in question 2 and 6 . They are not invariably followed by ridicule . People who dont agree with things are alowed to say so . Its an open forum . We dont all have to agree with you .


My questions :-

1 Has anyone else noticed that aya-wotsit has edited his first post in the "Sex" thread ?

2 Has anyone noticed that hes done it in other threads more than once ?

3 Does anyone think that his contribution to this site has been worthwhile or helpfull . ( sorry i dont know how to formulate that in a better way )

4 Do you think he has a positive , negative or neutral influence on the site and its members ?

Please say your opinion . I know i get pretty vehement sometimes but please dont think i will have a go at you if you dont agree with me or critisize me . I want you to be you and to be honest and say what you think . I dont want to define the discussion with my questions so please ask your own set of questions if you want to and / or critisize mine .

Aya- wotsit . A thread got closed because you kept talking shit and it was going round and round in a spiral downwards . I PMd you that i would ask the person in charge to open it again . I did and it got opened again . I mentioned that in a thread and caduceus asked who had closed it . I will not answer that question so i stood there with the burdon of proof on my back ...... and you let me fry in public . You could have come in and said that what i said was true without any negative consequencys , without informing on any one . If you want i can post the PM exchange between you and me on the subject ? I have kept all my PMs as copys on my computer since i realised that with some people they lie and manipulate and one sometimes needs proof .


Maybe i start to post with several identitys and back myself up in arguments to...........



"I don't"

You told me in a PM that you had recently asked to give up your administrator job and you were asked not to .

 

[st.bot.32]

7) Or conversely: does it bug you that such discussions are invariable followed by ridicule?

Uhm I don't really understand the question but nothing really bugs me.

I meant that whenever someone brings up something esoteric, there will invariably follow ridicule, like "you're a loony", "you need to visit a psychiatrist" etc. This is something that's been going on for as long as I can remember. It didn't start with the arrival of Ahuaeynjxs.

i'm really not offended when people share their belief systems. belief systems play a huge role in psychonauting. learning how to use belief systems as a tool rather than just being led along by them is part of the learning process. as is learning how to deal with consensual reality and projections of your own psyche/ego. i find it interesting to come to the forum and find people from all different stages in their life paths. sometimes i see posts and recognize that's where I was like 10-15 years ago.. it makes me reflect on the path my life has taken, and how much i have yet to learn. druglessdouglas last post as always summed it up nice and succinctly

as for GOD, i think he is a huge boon to this forum. and i think CM is doing an amazing job moderating this massive, busy forum with people from all over the place visiting it


--i do have one suggestion for the forum which is completely off topic. it's a security issue and i think it's important. right now any post on this forum can be found in a google search, and as people post things here that could ruin their livelihoods, perhaps google page caching for this forum should be disabled? just a suggestion..

 

[Guest]

--i do have one suggestion for the forum which is completely off topic. it's a security issue and i think its important. right now any post on this forum can be found in a google search, and as people post things here that could ruin their livelihoods, perhaps google page caching for this forum should be disabled? just a suggestion..

If we do that, the forum would be much less visible and therefore would be much less frequented, which I don't think is good.

I think people should simply be careful with what they put online.

 

[st.bot.32]

If we do that, the forum would be much less visible and therefore would be much less frequented, which I don't think is good.

I think people should simply be careful with what they put online.

right, well, to be clear and make sure there's no misunderstanding, i don't mean hiding psychonaut from a google search, just disabling caching. i discovered this one day when i had posted questions here asking about eating hash. i typed it into google to research the subject, and lo and behold my psychonaut post came up first in the google search

at the same time i can see how useful this would be if someone else was researching the subject legitimately, and stumbled on that thread.. either way though, you are right, as well people should really be careful how much information they give away about themselves online...

 

[restin]

that's how I came to the forum. By burning 7 grams of coal (or how much was it, GOD?)

 

[JazzyJeff]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....................

Oh sorry I fell asleep reading all the BS in this thread.

Ego's aside things from what I have read in the forums things are generally well kept and stay with the topic. Mostly.

The side banter with GOD and A$%4 (I cant remember how to pronounce it let alone spell it) well they can step outside and sort things out if they must.
Personally, if you're going to put an opinion into the public forum you better expect some people to have a different view / opinion and advice than you might expect. You dont have to do anything about it, or even read it. Water off a ducks back and all that.

You can pay-out on me. I'm a big boy and can take it.

 

[magickmumu]

My questions :-

1 Has anyone else noticed that aya-wotsit has edited his first post in the "Sex" thread ?

No ? did he do that?

2 Has anyone noticed that hes done it in other threads more than once ?

No ? is that true?

3 Does anyone think that his contribution to this site has been worthwhile or helpfull . ( sorry i dont know how to formulate that in a better way )

I did not read that much of ayu his post.


4 Do you think he has a positive , negative or neutral influence on the site and its members ?

He has a neutral influence on me. I don't have problems with this ayu character.
If I did find him annoying I would just ignore him.

 

[Guest]

Even though I don't know the whole story, one can't say anything he wants on the behalf that "everyone has his opinions", if someone's making a mess of every threads he goes in, I would ban him.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I went back to the front page and saw that caduceus hadnt waited

I waited for three days, and then started the thread (yesterday) as neutral as possible: "Shall we discuss here? Who would like to start?"

1 Yes . I think you keep missusing this site to push your esoteric views .

Those answering this question before you don't think I'm "pushing" my views. Of course you're entitled to your opinion, just be aware that it's not shared by everyone.

Aya- wotsit . A thread got closed because you kept talking shit and it was going round and round in a spiral downwards . I PMd you that i would ask the person in charge to open it again . I did and it got opened again . I mentioned that in a thread and caduceus asked who had closed it . I will not answer that question

Why? Do I really have to waste my time finding out what happened?

You told me in a PM that you had recently asked to give up your administrator job and you were asked not to .

No, not recently: before my summer holiday I asked Forkbender. That was the only time I considered it seriously.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

From the SEX! thread (in the Lounge section):

We have been told by administrators three times since i joined that the site is going better aand better and that because of that the sponsor prices would go up .

I asked the site owner and he told me they only lowered the prices a couple of times.

 

[GOD]

JJ its not a mater of going outside . If it was that easy i`d have solved all the problems i have had laid on me here in less than 10 seconds . Its not a matter of me against aya-wotsit . I`ve tried to make that clear . There are two parts of the issue as far as i`m concerned . Firstly i think that it cant be that a person continualy disrupts threads and edits their insulting comments making the rest of the thread and other members comments look out of proportion . Sometimes when one edits their posts there is no message at the bottom that it has been edited .

Secondly it seems to me that caduceus reaction to some of the things i say lately are over preportional . For instance in a thread i used the word vasectomy and was falsly attacked for it . I would never critiisize anyone in public because they have had one . We were in a discussion and several people were trying to get aya-wotsit to stop being abusive and stop deliberatly trying to cause trouble . We met him on the level he was talking on . It got to a point wher people were making english black , sarcastic jokes and i thought i`d use the word castrate then i thought thats a bit violent so i said vasectomy . I never thought about caduceus . He then came in and slagged me off and ended our frienship wich had been worth a lot to me . I dont think friends do things like that in public . When there are issues one talks about it in private . He didnt slag the other people off and he didnt slag aya-wotsit off although he had so to say shown where the goal posts were in the thread . His reaction to me in the menstruation thread and the same in the holocaust thread were in my opinion also over proportional .

"3 days" .

LIER .

"From: CaduceusMercurius
To: GOD
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:35 am
Subject: topic Quote message
If you want to open a new topic about it, you're of course free to do so."

All one has to do is to look at the date and time this thread was posted .


What sickens me is that i know that at least several other people saw that aya-wotsit had edited that post and dont say anything now . They let me fry in public allthough i have always done my best to help them when they had issues and sent me PMs .

There is no point that i can see in me making anymore comments in this thread . Have fun . Bye bye .

I edited this post at 18.19 .

 

[Carebear]

You know what... it`s all in the family.

:bear:

 

[mysticwarrior]

1 Has anyone else noticed that aya-wotsit has edited his first post in the "Sex" thread ?

No, and i don't mind if he has done that. I've edited lots of posts also. Of course i didn't change the whole reply, but sometimes after i posted a reply, i became aware(My english is not that good) that i said the things not in a coherent way. Other times i do have regret of things i've said. For example take a look at the vegetarian and veganism topic. I had couple of really bad days, and i got frustrated and wrote a really arrogant disrespecting post. Afterwards i really had the feelings to edit the post, and if no one had reply'd i did probably had edited that post. GOD, sometimes, we make mistakes and do formulate things in a different way. I noticed, that more people if not all of us do that. So don't make such a HUGE problem from that. And yell because of that, at them.

What bothers me the most, is that topics get hijacked, because someone does not like the content of it.

2 Has anyone noticed that hes done it in other threads more than once ?

I don't looking for mistakes or errors of others, since i make them also by myself.

3 Does anyone think that his contribution to this site has been worthwhile or helpfull . ( sorry i dont know how to formulate that in a better way )

Yes i do. I myself absorb lots of information. And i really like different views then my own views. Even if someone's view is full of bullshit, i still pay attention, because there is always something to learn from there posts.

4 Do you think he has a positive , negative or neutral influence on the site and its members ?

Hmmm, i don't feel offended by his posts. And yeah, he do play psycho games, and i can understand some people don't have any respect for that. But i don't understand, why you would blame and have a big mouth against such a person. It's just not cool, to call others fools or psycho's or what ever else etc, only because they looking things from a different perspective.

But forget about those question, it seems that you have a problem with the way CM is administrating the forum. I think it's better, that you two solve this behind the scenes unless there are more people who do have problems which his way of administrating the forum. But i don't get the idea, that others do have a problem with that.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

I confirm that god has indeed got a thread re-opened for me, so I could talk freely.

I would NOT say you are biased god, but you are contradicting yourself, man I got sick tonight, and I'm hallucinating almost as much as with psychedelics with the bacteria in my blood from my teeth, I can only understand you can be confused, and I'm not calling you a liar for saying I edited my posts. I know I didn't, but I can't say you're wrong either because I'm not perfect and I could have been hypnosed or sleepwalking ?

It seems unlikely to me, but this is nothing personal in my opinion ; like others have said, if you had ignored me I would have remained in what I intended to be a funny humorous thread about the esoteric nonsense of 2012 and the Jesus mythos.

You guys have attacked me as if I was serious, and we started talking about marriage and stuff that do NOT leave me indifferent, I have been trying to sternly express my opinion in other threads and you have all attacked me inconsequently which is why those threads have degenerated into KNOTS between threads.

Now if we should cut the knots and begin again this whole section of tapestry, is not my decision, some can tolerate a less than perfect art ; I am amongst those that think imperfect beings create imperfect art.

What bothers me is the contradictions ; people here say I have not proven my theories about say : quantum tunelling. Well you are NOT looking and you have NOT read, because if I was really wrong, someone would have posted RELEVANT scientific information disproving my theories.

But lo and behold, noone has even ATTEMPTED to do so ! And besides, I understand your frustration about absorbing this new material, because I was myself VERY frustrated when I found this out in the peak of my sickness ; I almost killed myself because of it, but it's necessary, because of all your maturity I now see this ; and I think you are all great beings for being yourself around it.

I'm not going to ask anyone to take sides... or whatever you're blaming me of, this is simply another contradiction. I never expected this to escalate like this, but we are now one of google's favorite sites ; they're reading us alright, and they probably secretly hope we destroy each other because of the magnitude of this enterprise.

I often find myself pondering if what I post will insult any of you, you have all a dear place in my heart, beleive it or not.

"... a dream that became a reality and spread throughout the stars" -- Captain Kirk (Whom Gods Destroy)

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

"3 days" .

LIER .

"From: CaduceusMercurius
To: GOD
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:35 am
Subject: topic Quote message
If you want to open a new topic about it, you're of course free to do so."

All one has to do is to look at the date and time this thread was posted .

I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to this, from the Pee & Peyote thread:

I think we should open a separate thread where we can discuss what is and what is not allowed as far as tin foil hats and such is concerned.

Go ahead. I don't think it will fix the problem, but perhaps it helps.

That was posted Wednesday, January 14, and the question was sent by PM as well.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

With some retrospect it's easy to iterate that god, whatever you have been thinking about ; telling me to get castrated is well below the belt, and I have not gone there.

Internet discussion is rarely : "oh you hit me hard, I hit you harder nastier"

That being said, I would not like to be the cause of the breaking of an old friendship. Now what is this all about ?