Your favorite tripping music?

[ararat]

It was for about 6 hours and then i went for a walk . I like trance , psytrance , hardtrance and progresivetrance . I dont like goa = tourist kiddypop trance in my opinion .

haha. as if there was a big difference between psytrance and goa. basically they are the same thing, except that goa has some indian samples like "on the seventh day, shiva created HASHISH, hashish,.. hashish.... hashish......"
:lol:

 

[GOD]

IMHO . Infected mushroom sounds to me like a bunch of deaf , dumb and blind backward kids with a methamphetamine overdose runing around pressing buttons in a recordingstudio and making dislexic "music" . And goa is a kiddy pop , tourist form of psytrance mixed with homo-haus .

 

[Guest]

Hahahaha, LOL.
I seriously love your replies GOD :thumbsup:

 

[ararat]

IMHO . Infected mushroom sounds to me like a bunch of deaf , dumb and blind backward kids with a methamphetamine overdose runing around pressing buttons in a recordingstudio and making dislexic "music" . And goa is a kiddy pop , tourist form of psytrance mixed with homo-haus .

I don't like Infected neither, but I fear they might be a bit better than a bunch of deaf, dumb and blind backward kids with a methamphetamine overdose runing around pressing buttons in a recordingstudio
IMHO

 

[GOD]

I`d rather have the kids , at least they havent done "national service" "defending" "their country" against the palastinians . Has anyone ever seen a party with a palastinian DJ ?

 

[Guest]

Well, Goa is the root of Psytrance, so...

 

[GOD]

Who told you that !!!! Where did you get that from ??? It was taken there but it didnt come from there . There were psytrance partys in england in or before 1988 . If anyone knows better tell us please .

 

[Guest]

That last Infected album is soooo bad.
They moved to California, to the "Hollywood scene" and you can hear that clearly on their last album.
It's so commercial, with the hiphop part and shit like that.
It doesn't have anything to do with the original spirit of the music anymore.

Sorry PsyNad, I respect everybody's opinion, but also am not afraid to give my own

Psytrance did evolve from Goatrance though.

Goa-trance did originate from Goa (jam sessions with guitars and "the first" drumcomputers (mostely 303's), but was spread fast and yes also reached England within no-time.
It did however start in Goa beginning in the 1980's
It still had to embrace the influences of styles like EBM and such so was formed a bit later, but it did originate from different styles in the state of Goa, India.

The fact that a lot of Psytrance comes from Isreali producers is because they have/had to serve in the army, so some went to Goa after having served in the war to party away their traumas, also some to avoid military draft.
It's common that "youngsters" go on a journey and leave the country after military draft.

The fact that you, GOD, don't like Goa-trance is probably because most of it is a lot simpler, it had to evolve.
The 2 styles are very similar in terms of techniques and sounds.

Simon Posford, has made some Hallucinogen albums before starting Shpongle, but it is clear that Simon Posford is the guy behind the tricks.
(although Shpongle is not Goa nor Psy)
He is less musical, but has more knowledge of the technical aspects of music.
Raja Ram is very musical, only went bad with TIP records, because there's a lot of shit comming out on that label.
Cheap ass psytrance remixes of existing tracks.
High party-feeling commercial shit.
But together as Shpongle :heart:

In the end, music is the thing you can keep on discussing about and it's all about if you like it or not.

But in my opinion...... hahaha LOL :mrgreen:

In the end I do like Psytrance better then Goatrance.
Only I still think a lot of Psytrance (as with almost any style/genre) has too much the 13 in a dozen feeling.
Too much of the same style of tracks and styles.

I just get out what I like (as everybody does with all music)


*hmmm, still feel like I'm missing some points here, but I'm way to tired to get into them and fuck all the theories and history, MUSIC IS FOR ENJOYMENT, not to discuss about.
You like it, or not!

 

[GOD]

I still dont agree that psytrance came from goa !!! Goa trance came from goa . Trance came out of techno that was started in england , it was a developement of what carl cox was doing in america . And i think goa got discovered by the israelis because their army was there training the indian secret service . The word spread about goa partys and they used it as a place to rest from their wars and to flee from national service . But that all came later , and spoiled goa . To me goa music is not real psytrance , its more cheep effects , homo-hause , reggae , silly singing , shit hop , snobism , tourists , posers and granddad DJ cult . The difference between hyperactive infected mushroom crap and real old school psytrance where the music went on continuously without stopping for days . Nowardays its mostly DJ cult , some prick with one pre recorded CD after another , pretending to be a real DJ mixing things . It used to be an art , laying records and mixing them . I got in the scene late at the start of 94 , and started to work at partys doing security and hang around on stage with the DJs doing a bit of sound mixing and checking that they were earning their money . Then later in 99 i started to arange partys . Sadly those days are gone and its all star DJs now who stop the music every five minutes so that dancing yourself into a trance is impossible , even going so far as to stop the music at the end of their preformance and wait for people to clap !!!!! And instead of loads of good manered people on ecstasy and LSD its now mostly posers on bad speed and kiddy coke . I still go if its real trance , psytrance and / or hard trance , but not goa . Or goaway as i call it .

 

[ararat]

goa doesn't mean that _every_ artist is aiming for a star-cult, or even stopping the music after 5 minutes..

but well, the question is: who cares?
it seems like we all agree that starting star-cults, commercialising and so on is really bad for music.
I don't agree that the oldschool stuff is (or: has to be) better (I have to admit, I know very few of psytrance oldschool stuff. I just use to visit the parties. I don't really listen that at home). synthesizers became way better in the last few years, computers became better, and so on. this all opens doors to really good sounds.

I'm not a specialist if it comes to goa and psytrance. but I think that goa uses more organic-style sounds, and I like that. and by goa I don't mean infected or something similar. psytrance has more artificial sounding synths, which is ok too, but I prefer the organic ones



If you want endless running music with not a bit of dj-kult, you probably should visit a freetek party. I would love to go to one, but I don't know anyone in the scene (yet )

 

[Guest]

I still dont agree that psytrance came from goa !!! Goa trance came from goa .

Psy came from Goatrance, not particularly from the state Goa...

The largest part of "the scene" sees Goatrance as the "oldschool stuff" and psytrance is what flowed out of it, because it is more high-tech, technology has evolved.
And that flowed into subgenre's like Darkpsy, Full-on and Progressive Psytrance.

The word spread about goa partys and they used it as a place to rest from their wars and to flee from national service . But that all came later , and spoiled goa .

No the tourists spoiled Goa...

To me goa music is not real psytrance , its more cheep effects , homo-hause , reggae , silly singing , shit hop , snobism , tourists , posers and granddad DJ cult

That's what some people made it too be, but this is not the core of Goa, this is just some shitty sideway it went too.


I think most trance and hardtrance is just commercial crap (Tiesto, Armin van Buuren, Johan Gielen, Paul van Dyk, Tom Harding, DJ Fausto)

But, Trance did originate from the acid (music) scene and guys like the KLF, not from Techno.
And the first techno music really sucked a lot more then Goatrance.

Anywaaaaaaay it doesn't matter!
There still are some awesome goa/psy parties going on.
Although there are still "amphetamine-based-parties" those usually suck.

From the parties I've been to, there's absolutely no stardom in sight.

Infected IS however chasing this status and the funny thing is is that is seen as psytrance (their new stuff)
Just a crap commercial form of it.

*edit: ment sight instead of site

 

[Guest]

NOW BACK TO SOME REAL MUSIC DAMNIT!!!

One of my favorite things to listen while tripping is Hanne Hukkelberg, her album Little Things is soooo awesome and her voice!
My god, intense bliss!!!!!!!!

 

[Jahvisions]

Still reggaedub, especcially augustus pablo and alpha&omega, but also scientist, lee scratch perry, mad professor, king tubby, dub syndicate, Sly&Robbie and Zion Train.

If people know other artist in this genre I like to hear it please.

 

[pastyputridpulp]

My current favorite :
Venetian Snares - My Downfall

Sounds like the perfect sequel to the almost classic cult Rossz Csillag Allat Született : the one i was waiting for.

 

[Guest]

My current favorite :
Venetian Snares - My Downfall

The new Rossz Csillag :heart:

I was hoping for this!
Pink + Green is kinda nice, but it's one of his "inbetween good stuff ep's" wich he releases way to often IMHO...

But that just came out, did you trip on it this weekend???

 

[Djones]

My favourite music in general is Psytrance and Minimal Techno which is all very nice on a party or just on the sofa.
But last time I really tripped, I had a very good time listening to Sensient:

http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/zen/zen1cd008.html

 

[tryptonaut]

Still reggaedub, especcially augustus pablo and alpha&omega, but also scientist, lee scratch perry, mad professor, king tubby, dub syndicate, Sly&Robbie and Zion Train.

If people know other artist in this genre I like to hear it please.

Do you know Overproof Soundsystem?
This tune is a killer:

You might also like Ott. He makes something I'd call "progressive dub" (not your classic dub, but still very much dub)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=41308162
(listen to "escape from tulse hell" for a very dubby sound, but also check out "smoked glass and chrome" which is not exactly dub, but it's a great tune!)

 

[Guest]

You might also like Ott. He makes something I'd call "progressive dub" (not your classic dub, but still very much dub)

Psydub

My god, the whole psything is getting out of hand....

I think you may like Deadbeat then, I personally love the album New World Observer (doesn't have vocals)
I think I have sent a track to Jah once, but check it out trypto
Not psy like Ott, but still very deep electronic dub.
Deadbeat myspace
Although his myspace only has tracks from his latest album: Journeyman's Annual

I loved New World Observer while tripping on mushrooms

 

[Jahvisions]

THX Tryptonaut, I liked it.

I also planning to buy some cd's from azarius from different genres like ambient because actually I like lot of different kinds of music but maybe I am a little scared that when music is to fast or dark on a heavy dose and I'll start to freak out because it starts a bad vibe that i can't handle anymore.

 

[Guest]

The New World Observer album I was talking about is a bit more "ambient" then the things on Deadbeat's myspace.

I'll check out the Azarius cd's tomorrow, I'm really curious what they have in stock...