Who thinks psychadelics are more than drugs?

[BrainEater]

i think psychadelics are holy, for whatever that is supposed to mean....
of course this doesn't exclude the possibility of abuse for all powerfull tools can be used either for "good" purposes and for "bad" purposes as well as creative and noncreative purposes...


peace

 

[Sticki]

i think psychadelics are holy, for whatever that is supposed to mean....
of course this doesn't exclude the possibility of abuse for all powerfull tools can be used either for "good" purposes and for "bad" purposes as well as creative and noncreative purposes...


peace

Agreed, They defintly have a signifigance in this world.

 

[IJesusChrist]

I understand alot of you who see the psychadelic part of psychadelics. I realized I could have gone down that road, but I felt insane.
I felt insane if I believed psychadelics were more than interactions between neurons.

So I tried to figure out what was REALLY going on, what my brain was really doing. Scared the shit out of me when I saw it. I don't remember it, I couldn't put it in words, but that was it - I saw the science of it.

You can either ride around in the roller coaster or study how it works, its up to you, either is a great reason to take them.

 

[mysticwarrior]

I felt insane if I believed psychadelics were more than interactions between neurons.

Why would you feel yourself insane?

 

[maxfreakout]

the whole world is just interactions between neurons, on one level of description, ie the way you can see aq computer screen in front of your eyes now, is because somehow your brain is creating an image of one

but this is the boring level of description

 

[mysticwarrior]

the whole world is just interactions between neurons, on one level of description, ie the way you can see aq computer screen in front of your eyes now, is because somehow your brain is creating an image of one

but this is the boring level of description

You mean + and -

 

[IJesusChrist]

Because I knew they couldn't possibly be more.

 

[spice]

Using the sun to electrolyze water:



http://www.fuelcellseminar.com/pdf/2007 ... er.ppt.pdf

 

[st.bot.32]

psychedelics if anything demonstrated to me the connection between mind and body, awareness and the brain.

at the same time.. now i'm less sure than i ever was before about what consciousness actually IS. it's a million times more mysterious than i thought it was. if awareness can be generated by interactions between neurons, who knows where else and how else it can exist and in what form and on what time scale

 

[GOD]

If nothing is real and there are no facts who are you ? How can you say , think and decide things ?

 

[IJesusChrist]

Using the sun to electrolyze water:



http://www.fuelcellseminar.com/pdf/2007 ... er.ppt.pdf

I actually went to a lecture on this. It's kind of cool, you just have alot of alkanes connected to a platinum or Rb rheubenium? central atom. Its cool, the H pops off, the OH chills for a second and the Platinum takes the second H.

The efficiencies are horrible though. Plus burning hydrogen and and oxygen is a stupid idea in the long run. The world can cope with high concentrations of CO2, thats how it started. But the world was never a giant fog ball. Increasing the humidity is going to reak havoc on the global warming.

sorry off topic

woops - wrong type of hydrogen generation, the one I went to had to do with photochemical cells with complex platinum molecules in aques solution of water.

 

[Brugmansia]

I'm exhausted, drink juice and the glucose elevates the glycogen levels in the blood. Energy storage in the cells as a result and I can exercise again. Even brain cells are storing sugar. A brighter connection with the environment is noticed due to the re-store of alertness.

Psychedelics. Drugs? Yeah. But so is oxygen.

There's actually no judge or court outside humanity who decides whether a drugs, other than for surviving, may be ingested or not. Nature knows, and produces it's knowledge. Humanity invented censorship. Pretending we're enourmously bigger than we in reality are.

 

[maxfreakout]

If nothing is real and there are no facts who are you ? How can you say , think and decide things ?

it's a crazy world

 

[IJesusChrist]

If nothing is real and there are no facts who are you ? How can you say , think and decide things ?

it's a crazy world

...nice stump

If we were built any different our brain would handle chemicals differently, sugar may be the "psychoactive" if our neurons were slightly different, or caffeine could possibly be stronger than DMT. These drugs like acid and psilo do what they do because we are what we are - they have no special purpose pre-destined.

I have to say chemistry is alot more interesting than extra-dimensional beings that you can see in your head.

 

[toogoodforyou]

For all you science heads out there

Steve Jobs travelled to India with a Reed college friend (who also was the 1st employee of Apple) in search of spiritual enlightenment, during this time, Jobs experimented with psychedelics, calling his LSD experiences "one of the two or three most important things he had done in his life."

This is the guy whose company delivers on of the best devices/gadgets with cutting edge technology. Also the i-pod which many of us use

So basically it is the intent with which a person uses the substances. You can use it for fun, or for mind-altering experiences or mystical experiences. It is upto the person, there is no right or wrong.

But you guys calling it a 'drug' makes it sound like heroin with no benefits. Obviously we all know it is an external substance which we are putting in the body. But isn't there more to it than being just another substance (or 'drug' as some of you call it)?? Come on....

 

[toogoodforyou]

Isnt it strange that we can all basicaly agree in this thread that drugs are drugs and that they can be good tools if used right . Also that a trip is a trip .

+1

I'm not even argueing. Its just that, in your 1st post of this thread which said 'Its a drug' or something like that made it appear as if it has no benefits.

Be happy for a change dude. Why so much anger?? Chillout

 

[mysticwarrior]

So basically it is the intent with which a person uses the substances. You can use it for fun, or for mind-altering experiences or mystical experiences. It is upto the person, there is no right or wrong.

And they all can just be just as interesting. I think it would be wise to have an open-mind completely different experience and explanations. Which can be really life changing. When i started with psychedelics, i first had researched the scientific part of psychedelics, because i where always sceptical. I where a sort of straight-edge guy, who was totally against drugs. But unless i was against it, i always have sad, that if i would ever going to try out something, then it would be an hallucinogen. I could imagine that something like that would be possible. Well the mushrooms that caused the first experience blow my sceptical mind away. I started directly looking for scientific explanations, and it made a lot clear to me. But there was more to my trip then just a chemical experience. The mushrooms changed, from then off changed a lot on my life, i mean how was it possible. So i started researching a bit about science, mind exploration and mystical experiences. I have experimented with all three, and really they are all amazing, and so complex, but amazingly interesting

 

[Jeniger]

But you guys calling it a 'drug' makes it sound like heroin with no benefits. Obviously we all know it is an external substance which we are putting in the body. But isn't there more to it than being just another substance (or 'drug' as some of you call it)?? Come on....

Exactly

 

[ophiuchus]

+1 to brugmansia. also a thank you to spice for the solar electrolysis layout. i knew they were developing solar car tech, but i didn't imagine they'd combine the two sciences together. brilliant.

 

[????????]

Why so much anger?? Chillout

what are you talking about? there was zero anger in his post.

The efficiencies are horrible though.

dude you're missing the bigger picture, the sun is a 100% free, everonline source of energy!