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[Forkbender]

Maybe he wanted help in a different way... in a way of good discussions maybe.

I even doubt that. It wasn't exactly a healthy discussion.

 

[Meduzz]

2nd that, I was getting pretty pissed and confused myself in the end :lol:

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Totally...

 

[GOD]

Braineater , what have you been taking lately ? and how much ? Either stop or take a lot more please .

 

[BrainEater]

whatever...


what i want to say to GOD is the following: grow up yourself and get rid of your fucking ignorant paradigma on psychotic people. bah... i know you are cool, but you need to receive a lesson.


psychotic people are normal people, they just can't accept the reality as it is. you might choose to say that it's "their own reality" which they can't accept, but i'll leave the interpretation up to you.


peace.

 

[Meduzz]

Heeey don't start fighting... That's what trolls want...

 

[GOD]

Brainy , i have a lot of experience with psychotic people . I know how to deal with them and how to help them . You talking unexperienced crap doesnt help them . They need clear rules and borders , and they need people to tell them the truth and not let themselves get pulled into their games . That only reinforces their problems . When people have problems and ask for help we should help , but if they dont listen only another mentaly confused person would keep indulging them . You are starting to sound like him...........

 

[BrainEater]

who cares what trolls want.

i want to teach GOD! he is smart but sometimes ignorant as fuck.

lesson 1: you can choose to ignore the positive, but you can choose to ignore the negative as well.

the definition of the positive or negative is left blank here.

peace.

 

[Meduzz]

Go seeing a doctor is a better idea than lesson 1 imho...
Braineater, if you want to help him there is nothing stopping you.

 

[BrainEater]

Brainy , i have a lot of experience with psychotic people . I know how to deal with them and how to help them . You talking unexperienced crap doesnt help them . They need clear rules and borders , and they need people to tell them the truth and not let themselves get pulled into their games . That only reinforces their problems . When people have problems and ask for help we should help , but if they dont listen only another mentaly confused person would keep indulging them . You are starting to sound like him...........

blah.... i don't care.... i know that you know... but that's why i say that you are being ignorant.... it's only talk over the internet


peace.

 

[GOD]

It looks like it was infectious , did you catch something from him..............

Lets get away from the wet hippy crap and back to the theme of the thread . Are there limits ? Where should we draw the lines ? How far should we go ? What is helping someone with a problem ? When should we stop ?

 

[BrainEater]

Go seeing a doctor is a better idea than lesson 1 imho...
Braineater, if you want to help him there is nothing stopping you.

having people REALLY help you is better than seeing a doctor in my opinion.
so this is shit talk. but it might be better for certain individuals to see the doctor.

peace.

 

[Meduzz]

you reap what you sow

 

[BrainEater]

It looks like it was infectious , did you catch something from him..............

Lets get away from the wet hippy crap and back to the theme of the thread . Are there limits ? Where should we draw the lines ? How far should we go ? What is helping someone with a problem ? When should we stop ?

ye i caught some truth.... i don't know it's hard to draw the lines... or the limits...

 

[BrainEater]

you reap what you sow

you will have reaped what you had sowed or will sow.

 

[GOD]

Brainy please stop , i dont think anyone wants to live through the same crap we just had in the suicide thread again with you . Put your ego down and lets get back to the theme of the thread please .

A few good hits and some deep breathing might help you .

 

[BrainEater]

that's it!
i'm goin 4 the good hit now!


peace :weedman:

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Are there limits ? Where should we draw the lines ? How far should we go ? What is helping someone with a problem ? When should we stop ?

I think these questions are answered by the Forum Rules. You can help the person privately in any way you like, but not on this forum.

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[Forkbender]

Are there limits ? Where should we draw the lines ?

I wasn't really offended at any time this morning. I think the forumrules are pretty clear and should be enough. We shouldn't be hardliners on this, though for some people this is necessary. If someone goes on spamming I think we should warn them and ban them if necessary.

How far should we go ?

As far as necessary. We don't need strict enforcement, because people tend to be responsible around here. If you use words someone else finds insulting you may consider taking something back. But I find that a bit of an insult can be a real trigger of awareness.

What is helping someone with a problem ? When should we stop ?

This morning showed that we only can help those who want help. They must recognize the problem within themselves before we can help them. We should stop as soon as we notice someone doesn't want help. This doesn't mean we should neglect this person or ban him or whatever, just that we don't get ourselves involved too much.

 

[GOD]

I agree with fork .

Maybe most of the problem came because some people havent got as much experience as others with recognising and dealing with people who dont want help . Hopefully we have now learned something and dont let it go so far again . Thats what the thread was suposed to be about .

I had enough last night as i tried to help him , and eventualy solved his problem , through loads of PMs for several hours by explaining to him that the problem wasnt a virus it was his software and explaining to him how to fix it .

= I`m not a heartless , negative monster i`m a very loving patient person who trys his best to help people with problems .