Please consider and comment on what I've said - either address the points I've made, or suggest another psychedelics forum I might be interested in.
Pariah we really need guys like you!!! Really, science is not bad at all either are esoteric things. I really admire your view on science, and i also learned from it. I have read a lot topics that you have written and i am sure a lot of people will take there lessons from it. So please stay, and don't visit other psychedelic forums, who knows what you will meet there. I don't want to see you come back after a year, and see that you are converted by aya-wotsits alien race
And start attacking us with advanced not scientifically proved spiritual god like weapons
And if you leave, we will send our Psychonaut GOD, to hunt you down and to put you on some scientifically green socks.
What i always do, and i know not everyone is able to do it and sometimes it get's really difficult. Is just playing "The what if?" game. If i play that game, i just stop reasoning and follow the trail and try to fully understand and feel what a certain member does try to say. Ones i understand, i go back to my own save world and start reasoning. Like i said before, i am not such an intellect person, who knows lot about science. As well i am not an esoteric person who has lost reality. I just like to be able two experience the both sites of the story.
That's also the reason why i where not bothered, with aya-wotsits(God you invented a good name.) saying things from his perspective. Oke, maybe he say that certain things are facts and says he can proof it. And maybe he can, but there will always be enough other theories in science and probably even esoteric viewpoint that could completly contradict with the viewpoint of aya-wotsits.
Around me i see an world which just can be explained by to many theory's, so i never will get stuck on one belief. I use myself as much hypothesis as possible. Since i am started with using hypothesis, i do never reject something because science proof's it's wrong, or an esoteric subject seems to good to be true.
In whole my life i have believed so many things, and if i look back now. I lost the count about how many times i where wrong. Even if we look at science we see, so many contradictions and things that we believed to be true, and then science suddenly changed there viewpoints and found out that there where wrong all the times.
I think we need those people who are devoted to science, and we also need people like aya-wotsits, that are able to completely detach them self's from science and take a look at theory's that are far away for science to be able to proof. Even if an person seems to fall from the earth, because he has been sucked in some esoteric illusion. He will one day wake up, and reconsider everything and could slam his self against the head because he believed something that was to good to be true.
Again, we just need the both opposites. But we need to be aware, that science and esoteric stuff, will always interfere and causes conflict with each other. So we need to stop attacking each other, because someone has an opposite view and start to love his opinion because there is always the possibility that one day the opposite seemed to be true.
I hope i made any sense, i just like all of your theory's no matter if it is science that can be proved or not, or if it is esoteric which can be proved or not. We just need each other, and sometimes need to be more open for other possibility's and just play the "What if game."
I see to many people taking there theory's just to serious, that i already imagine how they try despratly to preach it down on everyone. And i believe that is something, we can't tolerate or make at least clear to someone that he's doing the wrong thing.
Again pariah, i really loved to read your post. Because your a person who can turn things back in logic, you help the people to stay grounded. While aya-wotsits try's to lift someone a little up from the ground, which also can be positive.
I finally think, that the person who can keeps the best balance, and who is able to try as neutral ass possible, will always step between the opposite and are able to compromise between the opposites.
glad to see lots of others have returned as well.
