Physics proves itself to be wrong ?
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and what's the lowest number? zero?
i knew it. somehow nothing = everything. thinking about infinity is just as mind-boggling as thinking about nullity. shit just wraps around itself and somehow 0 = ?. it's like how the empty set is inside every set, even itself, and it is the same set.
this empty set is ? or {}. it is in every set because any set has it as a subset. it's like how we can always have zero stuff on us. i have zero millions dollars in a bag here next to me.
to nothing, all applies, as with everything.
[EDIT: another view different from all that set theory i found is this one: everything = the sum of all = ? + (-?) = 0.]
if you are going to talk about everything you should go on living forever and never ceasing to speak of it. or say nothing at all; both choices are equivalent but as we can't talk forever the latter is the most appropriate.
yet, here we are, stubbornly trying to say something about everything
i say it again: you can't have everything without nothing. each one implies the other. this is why you can say that ultimately nothing matters, and you would be right. it's another way of saying that every single little thing matters just as much as anything.
Pariah's article a dit:
i knew it. somehow nothing = everything. thinking about infinity is just as mind-boggling as thinking about nullity. shit just wraps around itself and somehow 0 = ?. it's like how the empty set is inside every set, even itself, and it is the same set.
Wikipedia a dit:
this empty set is ? or {}. it is in every set because any set has it as a subset. it's like how we can always have zero stuff on us. i have zero millions dollars in a bag here next to me.
Wikipedia a dit:
to nothing, all applies, as with everything.
[EDIT: another view different from all that set theory i found is this one: everything = the sum of all = ? + (-?) = 0.]
if you are going to talk about everything you should go on living forever and never ceasing to speak of it. or say nothing at all; both choices are equivalent but as we can't talk forever the latter is the most appropriate.
yet, here we are, stubbornly trying to say something about everything
i say it again: you can't have everything without nothing. each one implies the other. this is why you can say that ultimately nothing matters, and you would be right. it's another way of saying that every single little thing matters just as much as anything.
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Regarding the cyclical creation and recreation of all the universes, as well as membranes and all, I'll share with you the creation and recreation of the universe according to Indian mythology. Contrary to the current Biblical story, the Indian God Vishnu doesn't create the universe once, but continuously. And he doesn't rest on the 7th day, but dreams throughout the entire process.
Vishnu is sleeping and as he dreams, from the pores of his skin emanate unlimited orbs, called brahma-andas, eggs of brahma (spirit, or Lord Brahma, the demiurge). In each of these brahma-andas Vishnu enters and lies down on his serpant bed on the Ocean of Milk. There a lotus grows out of his navel. The flower opens, and in it Brahma awakens. Brahma has four heads (one for each direction) but he sees nothing but darkness. He descends down the stem of the lotus (the polar axis of the donut?), but cannot find its source, so he returns to the flower, sits down and starts meditating. Through that meditation he's instructed to create the world, which he then does in a sort of God-like fashion.
Brahma lives for a hundred years, and he sleeps 12 out of each 24 hours. One night of Brahma lasts 4.32 billion years on Earth (during which there will be a partial devastation, except for yogis who have attained the planet of Shiva). So Brahma lives a total of 86.400 billion years. When Brahma dies, all elements and living entities are absorbed into Vishnu's body again, where they reside in a dormant state until the next creation.
That, in a nutshell, is the Vedic creation myth. It does include a sort of Big Bang, but in a continuing cycle, with universes that each have an "shell" as well as a zenith and nadir. It seems that each egg refers to a solar system, but it could also refer to the entire galaxy. In any case, everything will eventually be absorbed into the center of the universe, with similar ones being emanated by it again.
How they made up that story? I have no idea.
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"In Hindu cosmology and metaphysics it is not accepted that the universe was created from out of nothing at a particular point of time. For if something is created or born, it has to be dissolved, has to die. Strictly the conservation principle applies here. The universe was created according to Hinduism only by transformation of something which was latent before that. Creation is just a manifestation of what was unmanifest before."
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Vishnu is sleeping and as he dreams, from the pores of his skin emanate unlimited orbs, called brahma-andas, eggs of brahma (spirit, or Lord Brahma, the demiurge). In each of these brahma-andas Vishnu enters and lies down on his serpant bed on the Ocean of Milk. There a lotus grows out of his navel. The flower opens, and in it Brahma awakens. Brahma has four heads (one for each direction) but he sees nothing but darkness. He descends down the stem of the lotus (the polar axis of the donut?), but cannot find its source, so he returns to the flower, sits down and starts meditating. Through that meditation he's instructed to create the world, which he then does in a sort of God-like fashion.
Brahma lives for a hundred years, and he sleeps 12 out of each 24 hours. One night of Brahma lasts 4.32 billion years on Earth (during which there will be a partial devastation, except for yogis who have attained the planet of Shiva). So Brahma lives a total of 86.400 billion years. When Brahma dies, all elements and living entities are absorbed into Vishnu's body again, where they reside in a dormant state until the next creation.
That, in a nutshell, is the Vedic creation myth. It does include a sort of Big Bang, but in a continuing cycle, with universes that each have an "shell" as well as a zenith and nadir. It seems that each egg refers to a solar system, but it could also refer to the entire galaxy. In any case, everything will eventually be absorbed into the center of the universe, with similar ones being emanated by it again.
How they made up that story? I have no idea.
See also:
"In Hindu cosmology and metaphysics it is not accepted that the universe was created from out of nothing at a particular point of time. For if something is created or born, it has to be dissolved, has to die. Strictly the conservation principle applies here. The universe was created according to Hinduism only by transformation of something which was latent before that. Creation is just a manifestation of what was unmanifest before."
http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/41.html
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Please tell that a maths profesor . Circles are known in geometry as infinate polygons .
There was a part of a BBC series about the history of maths on TV today where the guy doing it , an oxford profesor , said that . I`d rather believe him than wiki .
There was a part of a BBC series about the history of maths on TV today where the guy doing it , an oxford profesor , said that . I`d rather believe him than wiki .
Don't mix up different things.
Circles are not infinitaly long, they have a defined circumference (Umfang) which is defined as a number (2*pi*r).
But it is indeed an infinite polygon.
Do you see how they get always rounder? If you continue this sequence eternally, you in the end get a circle (this is by the way how pi is derived). Therefore one can say, as Edge (Ecke) tends to infinity, we get a circle. Therefore, a circle is not infinitly long.
On the other hand, infinity as a number cannot exist. As as soon as you define infinity as a certain number, I can give you a higher one. If you say "haha, infinity =100" I can say, no it is 101. You can say infinity is 1000000000000000 and I can give you the next one up. If you define infinity as n, I can give you the number n+1 and therefore destroy your theory.
(I read your PM but it's fun)
Circles are not infinitaly long, they have a defined circumference (Umfang) which is defined as a number (2*pi*r).
But it is indeed an infinite polygon.
Do you see how they get always rounder? If you continue this sequence eternally, you in the end get a circle (this is by the way how pi is derived). Therefore one can say, as Edge (Ecke) tends to infinity, we get a circle. Therefore, a circle is not infinitly long.
On the other hand, infinity as a number cannot exist. As as soon as you define infinity as a certain number, I can give you a higher one. If you say "haha, infinity =100" I can say, no it is 101. You can say infinity is 1000000000000000 and I can give you the next one up. If you define infinity as n, I can give you the number n+1 and therefore destroy your theory.
(I read your PM but it's fun)
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Restin , i said "Did you all know that circles are infinate" . I didnt say that they are infinately long . Remember graphs ? there are no curves just a series of "straight" lines between points . When a guy like that stands up and says that to the world it gets checked and proof read by several other experts before he says it .
"On the other hand, infinity as a number cannot exist. As as soon as you define infinity as a certain number"
Pi doesnt exist ???????
"On the other hand, infinity as a number cannot exist. As as soon as you define infinity as a certain number"
Pi doesnt exist ???????
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Phi is also an infinite number, but in the truer sense, as it is not contained in a circle, it's a spiral.
