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^the question is: what caused the big bang?
Physics proves itself to be wrong ?
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I think the universe is a turd on its way to meet the ocean, and melt with it/coalesce with it.
But what kind of turd? From whom? Composed of what? What's the shape/size?
You don't know. And neither do I. Because it's just a turd. A name.
Universe, big bang, black holes, etc... are concepts wich are feeded, mostly, by our imagination or scientific research (almost the same as imagination, since they are never sure they are correct about what they claim to be fact(?)). Still, they remain concepts/names what so ever.
Though, it's fun to wonder about how the big Note was created.
I think our farting is what keeps the universe working. (try not to fart. You can't. Unless you're dead. Even though, when you die, you give your last mega fart. There! Another big bang!)
We are god :twisted:
But what kind of turd? From whom? Composed of what? What's the shape/size?
You don't know. And neither do I. Because it's just a turd. A name.
Universe, big bang, black holes, etc... are concepts wich are feeded, mostly, by our imagination or scientific research (almost the same as imagination, since they are never sure they are correct about what they claim to be fact(?)). Still, they remain concepts/names what so ever.
Though, it's fun to wonder about how the big Note was created.
I think our farting is what keeps the universe working. (try not to fart. You can't. Unless you're dead. Even though, when you die, you give your last mega fart. There! Another big bang!)
We are god :twisted:
It is all the problem of time. If time is eternal, then there is no ultimate/first cause, as if time is eternal, then cause/effect are eternal as well.
If you say that big bang created time and matter, then it is the ultimate cause that created all the effects.
By the way, physics suxxx
If you say that big bang created time and matter, then it is the ultimate cause that created all the effects.
By the way, physics suxxx
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Thats the point of the thread . The general idea that most people acept and have learned as "physics" is not an ultimate truth . Its a template that worked well untill the "Unclear / unsharp reletionship" was discovered . Then came another level of physics and added "A" new dimension................?
I understand what you mean about time but you are talking about time in the linear sense that we talk about and acept IN this universe ..........
I understand what you mean about time but you are talking about time in the linear sense that we talk about and acept IN this universe ..........
what is so wrong about something going on forever? what if the universe just frickin goes on forever. what is so wrong about that? why we must think it ends? because we die the universe has to as well? death without life is meaningless. the universe cannot die. everything can't collapse into itself and just end. WHAT would remain? what the fuck would remain? nothingness? nothing without something is meaningless. it's like we are so used to see things as opposites that we need to create an abstraction for what opposes the universe.
it doesn't have to end, but that doesn't mean it is linear either. some hypotheses i've read (well about 10 years ago, not completely up to date on this now) think of the universe as curved, cyclical.. ie if you went far enough eventually you'd come by where you started again (but that would take the entire age of the universe to do)
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probably not. sounds to me like you are talking about all kinds of existance, whatever, wherever, etc.. if you wanna get uber technical maybe call it the multiverse, metauniverse, maybe thats the closest description..
anyway i think you are asking a real question here, one that the scientific method can't answer..
i would call that a cause, but still not THE cause. the ultimate answer to "why" and "how did it all get here" is still just as far away. to put it another way: if god created time and space, from whence came god?
ok now to check on the sandwich thread..
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I realy dont understand your answer . I asked a plain simple question because it seems to me that some of the people who have answered so far are defining the word universe diferently . I wanted people to reply so we could clear that up , if there is something to clear up .
"Please define what you as individuals and / or physics mean by the universe ."
"Please define what you as individuals and / or physics mean by the universe ."
yes..
arright.. by universe, our reality (like in the above post).. all of it that came from the big bang. our time and space. all things we can see and measure with our limited senses and technology. (when you go beyond that, existence outside the universe, multiple universes, you get into the idea of "metaverse" etc)
i think that's a functional definition. but i keep open to the possibility that there is more than this universe, merely because the big bang just doesn't satisfy me as any sort of ultimate answer to the question. the big bang is just another process following the laws of the universe
arright.. by universe, our reality (like in the above post).. all of it that came from the big bang. our time and space. all things we can see and measure with our limited senses and technology. (when you go beyond that, existence outside the universe, multiple universes, you get into the idea of "metaverse" etc)
i think that's a functional definition. but i keep open to the possibility that there is more than this universe, merely because the big bang just doesn't satisfy me as any sort of ultimate answer to the question. the big bang is just another process following the laws of the universe
yes, what we think of as universe could be a mere cell of a much bigger system (in fact i think it is). but that does not matter, the word does not loose it's usefulness. the universe is just all that fucking is.
as saint bot said, it would be the ultimate joke if this bigger system is but a mere cell of another bigger one, and then again and again and again until we get back to were we started. i think maybe this is so. the universe would have a big laugh at us.
as saint bot said, it would be the ultimate joke if this bigger system is but a mere cell of another bigger one, and then again and again and again until we get back to were we started. i think maybe this is so. the universe would have a big laugh at us.
http://www.braungardt.com/Physics/Vacuu ... uation.htm
Things can indeed spring out of nothing - the idea goes that there was so much "nothing" that everything came into existence...
...thats an over simplification, but hey, nice way of putting it.
The big bang / big crunch cycle is also a "good" theory in that it works logically - it can't be tested in practice, just with thought experiments...
- imagine a universe crushes to cause a new one (with a "bang"), and that universe crushes to make another - eventually the original universe will be recreated - causing a cycle of recreation.
infinity isn't such a wacky concept, just a difficult one to grasp - What's the highest number?
Things can indeed spring out of nothing - the idea goes that there was so much "nothing" that everything came into existence...
...thats an over simplification, but hey, nice way of putting it.
The big bang / big crunch cycle is also a "good" theory in that it works logically - it can't be tested in practice, just with thought experiments...
- imagine a universe crushes to cause a new one (with a "bang"), and that universe crushes to make another - eventually the original universe will be recreated - causing a cycle of recreation.
infinity isn't such a wacky concept, just a difficult one to grasp - What's the highest number?
thanks for posting those.. brane and bulk is exactly what i was trying to think of earlier but didn't know what it was called
absolutely, but this still happens because of certain physical laws that are in effect, the website calls them "natural processes". to me this just doesn't answer the ultimate why that seemingly cannot be answered.
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absolutely, but this still happens because of certain physical laws that are in effect, the website calls them "natural processes". to me this just doesn't answer the ultimate why that seemingly cannot be answered.
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nice quote from the site:
