Herbal XTC and an attention deficit disorder.

[mysticwarrior]

Erowid has somethings to tell about Mucuna

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

The leaves, seeds, stems and roots contain L-Dopa, Serotonin, 5-HTP, and Nicotine, as well as N,N-DMT, Bufotenine, and 5-MeO-DMT.

Wow!

I have been diagnosed with tourette syndrome since my very early childhood, which goes as far as mild tics in physical motor control.

From age 7 or 8 until I was 18 or 19, I had continuous tics, which were a great source of distress for me. It got me interested in relaxation exercises and meditation at an early age however.

 

[GOD]

But in what quantitys are those drugs present and is it practicable to use the plant as an ayahuasca analog ? Does anyone have a link to a web site where there is reliable info about recreational use ?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

History of Ayurvedic Use
Over two thousand years ago the Ayurvedic physician Sushruta wrote in the Sushruta Samhita (one of the two key texts of Ayurvedic medicine) that Mucuna combined with Tribulus terrestris is a powerful aphrodisiac and tonic. Mucuna contains DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, and Bufotenin (amongst other alkaloids) and Tribulus terrestris contains harmine, an MAOI.

Smoking M. pruriens leaves
It has been reported that smoking the leaves of M. pruriens in a joint leads to a tryptamine buzz [Ayahuasca Analogues 2000] and that ingestion of 3 g of P. harmala prior to the smoking may produce colorful geometric patterns.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mucuna_pruriens/mucuna_pruriens_bits.shtml

 

[GOD]

"Its been reported" - "may" .

I want to see reliable reports of people using it as an ayahuasca analog . I would expect to see masses of information about any posible psychoactive activity seeing as for how long and in how many parts of the world it is used . When one compairs the well documented reports of aphrodisiac effects , activity against swollen eyes , use as a nerve tonic , use against stomach worms , use to encourage urination and use against swellings in the nose ( Stirnholenentzundungen ) one asks one self where the reports of psychoactivity are..............

"The common name "Cow-Itch" (or "Cowitch") is a bastardization of the Hindi name "Kiwach" meaning "bad rubbing"".

= itching powder .

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Yeah the outer seed pod is full of little hairs that itch terribly... but thats the only part of the plant that is like that.

The alcohol seed extract isn't particularly psychoactive, I would rather think the leaves or root or bark contains the most alkaloids...

 

[Brugmansia]

That depends alot what you will do before , during and after the trip. And how strong your serotonin function is...

I did it, and saw myself in the mirror, it changed my life, I even had strong telepathic experiences with 3 other friends.

Nothing pleasant however, it was all very heavy with revelations.

Discovering the truth about how we'd see our transparant Self from a non-autonomic seat. And how our own identity makes us see the world as it is.

Isn't that just what we're looking for?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

That would be the first step on the yellow brick road... but since we learned from the story, I wouldn't even give it that status

Vision alone rarely leads to realisation... thats my experience. But people have right to be hopeful about those, for me it did work, but I have no other examples ; all the people who did it with me in my wild youth have dismissed those experiences as recreational, oh they were as high as me, but it takes more than hallucination and puking on the floor to shake most people.

 

[Brugmansia]

Rarely a realisation? But gained hope out of an entheogenic life? Right.

Since you're coming on this forum about psychonautism, you seem to toss with information a lot but I haven't seen any text of you in where you seem to speak right out of your core, which is unavoidable if you're amoung other psychonauts if you're one yourself.

All I want you to remind is that I believe you've got something left, to let go. And it's not a performance, nor it can be claimed.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

I do not need to speak from my core because my body is fractal and so are my thoughts.

Like everyone I have stuff to forgive myself about, karmic issues in my ancestry to resolve, I am very human.

I would love to speak freely and I know you can relate to these feelings I got, but if I would speak from my core it would freeze your soul over, I cannot teach others about the rewards of following love with all your might until it's done with you. Each must live his own experiences related to it and learn a unique truth for themselves.

Thats where I stand, I have no secrets, you can ask me questions, but I'm not going to say everything at once, because it is one thing to be truthful and shareable, but it is another to be harmless and compassionate. The balance lies in compassion, between truth and abobinations

 

[Brugmansia]

I'm just aware of it though. I'm glad I'm not going through time and space as divided fractals. Being touchable in every aspect comforts me.

From here on I won't make any interruption anymore though.

 

[mysticwarrior]

Like everyone I have stuff to forgive myself about, karmic issues in my ancestry to resolve, I am very human.

Are you sure?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Well if you guys are ready to fly then I suggest you finish sheding your duality in perception. You have your confirmation, I acknowledge you, you are not hallucinating.

If my hologram wasn't amalgamated of course I would be "touchable" but its not divided, the golden and silver polarities dance around each other in unison, I just tend to keep very tight jurisdictions to protect my body.

It's just way too big, it's equal in any meaningful way, but if you take a purely objective picture, you'll see it will require at least 70000 of you in complete emotional coherence to actually create an arc big enough to connect to my core without me having to say a word.

Your comments are welcome, and I appreciate you pointing out my errors, thank you.