Herbal XTC and an attention deficit disorder.

[GOD]

And whats your diagnosis ?

 

[Faust]

Chinese and ayurvedic and native medicine practitionner... I diagnose and guide people through any kind of illness.

I also study in biology and endocrinology

Does that combine well?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Yes I surprise myself about it ! I seem to intuitively find great supporting documents amongst the dozens of medical journals I study... especially the chinese medicine man had surprisingly accurate knowledge of body mechanics even if they didn't have the science... lots of trial and error I guess.

Did you hear the story of the chinese emperors who had to please 8-10 woman per night and died early at like 30 yo... the medicine man transformed them gradually allowing them to remain potent until late ages, even like 70 yo they still get wood and completely satisfy their concubines. At first they used animal parts and strnage stuff, but their science developped alot and they were able to work with only plants and fungi and earth products.

At first glance the links were not obvious, but as the new discoveries seem to implicate more enzyme expression that pure genetics it's getting very interesting to see how plants can modify gene expression in enzymes.

Well my diagnosis cannot really be given without observing the tongue/iris and feeling the pulse... but usually I can give good guidelines, the supplements I mentioned earlier should be MUCH help.

Maybe Mucuna pruriens would be good to try too, since it contains alot of l-dopa.

 

[Faust]

Have you seen/read 'Awakenings' ? A problem occured with administering L-dopa, the patients got habituated and L-dopa lost it's effect.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Mystic, do you already know the name of the herbal X you took? I personally doubt it would contain BZP, unless the smartshop sold it from under the counter. I accidentily dosed myself with 200mg about a year ago. It felt just like MDMA, but lasted much longer and left me with a terrible headache.

There used to be some good herbs in herbal E's, like ephedrine or even yohimbe, but nowadays all natural stimulants except caffeine are forbidden (at least in the Netherlands). That's why all of them contain sources of caffeine: green tea, guarana, green coffee, etc. Sometimes they contain some LSA (Druid's Fantasy, Trip-E) or Ololiuqui (Kryptonite).

Practically all other herbs and nutrients, such as niacin (vitamine B3), Panax ginseng, Rhodiola, Ashwagandha, Citrus aurantium etc. have only mild short term effects.

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

200 mg bzp... ouch

It dehydrates ALOT, you probably forgot to drink lots of water with electrolytes while tripping !

Piper-Azine... "the piper leads his children underground" ! Where you sweat more water than you can imbibe

No I have not seen awakenings, but I am aware of the behavior of synthetic l-dopa and it is indeed strange that the natural form does not exhibit those properties, I have not yet come across a clear explanation in the scientific journals. The synthetic form seems to barely cross the BBB whilst the natural form works much better... it's a good mystery !

Mucuna or velvet bean has been used for hundreds of years in ayurvedic medicine and never created habituation in the tonic dosage, I use it myself and have never noticed any decline in the quality of its effects, you can even overload with dopamine on them, the only way to burn that much dopamine is with sexual exitation which become detrimental if the serotonin modulation cannot keep up with the oxycontin release which is the case for most people. That is to say ; mucuna is not a toy ! And must be dosed more in the long term, a little bit less than optimum rather than risking too much is definately better.

 

[Faust]

I don't know anything about ayurvedic medicine, but there's no difference between synthetic L-dopa and natural L-dopa other then its source. Synthetic just means it's created in a lab, the molecule is the same.

What is mucuna or velvet bean? and what do you use it for?

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

It dehydrates ALOT, you probably forgot to drink lots of water with electrolytes while tripping !

I drank regularly, but indeed no electrolytes. I could try BZP again one day and see if taking trace minerals will help.

"The Dragon's coming out of the see,
with the shimmering silver head of wisdom looking at me.
He brings down the fire from the skies,
You can tell he's doing well by the look in human eyes.
You'd better not compromise.
It won't be easy."

 

[Brugmansia]

Have you seen/read 'Awakenings' ? A problem occured with administering L-dopa, the patients got habituated and L-dopa lost it's effect.

I have been diagnosed with tourette syndrome since my very early childhood, which goes as far as mild tics in physical motor control. Caused by an overstimulation of the brain chemical dopamine. Although nonrhythmic movements appear to outsiders, it is in no way a negative interaction within my thoughts or inner organisation. Perhaps even a priviledged lift in concentration, positiveness, inner detection/sedation and mathematical thinking.

Now coming to the point, it may explain why I never got euphoric effects out of cocaine apart from a withdrawaled state with no urge to do activities. Just being passive and thinking about how to structure systematically keen for long-term results instead of just enjoying the intoxination and the moment in the now.

It turned out to me that cocaine couldn't give me that high which is experienced by everyone and where it is appreciated for amoung many. And that some effects of cocaine, are naturally coming along with tourette. I often depend on myself with a critical eye that's sometimes considered as stubborn and anti-social.

 

[mysticwarrior]

Mystic, do you already know the name of the herbal X you took? I personally doubt it would contain BZP, unless the smartshop sold it from under the counter. I accidentily dosed myself with 200mg about a year ago. It felt just like MDMA, but lasted much longer and left me with a terrible headache.

It wasn't BZP, the owner of the smartshop said that there was something like Catonine or Catanonine in it. I don't know how to spell it exactly I already tried to search for it on the internet, but i couldn't find any information, so i probably should have misspelled it. This week i will ask, what the names of these pills are, because that is something i forgot to ask

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Thats what would be expected by even me , but it isn't so... something in the natural extract allows for better absorbtion ; perhaps the aminoacid is chelated who knows... I haven't come upon any clarifications as I said, but the difference is major.

There is also side effects with synthetic l-dopa and the natural mucuna extract at the same theoretical l-dopa dosage it dosen't.

It's used for low libido, parkinson, troubles of concentration.

Mucuna Pruriens, also known as Cowhage, and velvet bean contains a very powerful neurotransmitter pre-cursor L-Dopa. Mucuna pruriens is a reputed remedy of Ayurveda in nervous and sexual diseases. Traditionally, Mucuna pruriens is commonly used as carminative, hypertensive and hypoglycemic agent. Mucuna pruriens has been found to contain L-DOPA, 40 mg/g of the plant. The plant/seeds contain the bioactive alkaloids mucunine, mucunadine, mucuadinine, pruriendine and nicotine, besides B-sitosterol, glutathione, lecithin, oils, venolic and gallic acids. Studies in experimental model show L-Dopa also helps in the reduction of cholesterol and blood sugar levels.

purported benefits include (some unproven yet) :

Improved sleep (promotes deep sleep)
Reduced bodyfat & decreased cellulite
Decreased wrinkles
Improved skin texture & appearance
Increased bone density and reversal of osteoporosis
Increased lean muscle mass
Improved mood and sense of well-being
Enhanced libido & sexual performance
Increased energy levels
Improved cholestorol profile & regeneration of organs (heart, kidney, liver, lungs)
Dramatically strengthed immune system

But as I said if you play with it and stimulants, you could find yourself in a very vicious circle thats hard to figure, it's not like a fit all herb, maybe it is but in very small tonic dosages. (1-2 grams of seed)

I love this herb and wouldn't live without it !

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Perhaps it was Cathine and Cathinine, like the active ingredient in Khat ? Precursors to methcathinone ?

That would be illegal here however...

 

[mysticwarrior]

Interesting

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

Not for me... I have a very sensitive endocrynology, a cup of cofee or equivalent is the most stimulant I can intake, if I do anything else the "dryness" of my cerebrospinal fluid bugs me worse than severe depression. I'm not exagerating, the feeling I get is worse than anything I can describe.

I know most people go into life without the capacity to "gorge" the brain with cerebrospinal fluid in sexual play (which includes dance and music) ; just like an erection but for the brain , and the thyroid too gorges the heart region.

But I can't... I feel like I'm not myself and that I lie to everyone. Of course I guess I could eventually adapt, but I choose not to indulge since I know melatonin-DMT transe (like indian shrushti music) is to me MUCH more interesting than dopamine light transe (like we get with techno music).

It's kinda lame when you think about it... I'm here taking care of myself in a very special manner because I been sick, and I see healthy people who have an opportunity to realise much more electric potential than I am capable of... and they don't.

And not because they do drugs or eat bad stuff... no no no, they're freakin careful ; most are crudivores, they do yoga... yet it activates their sexual system so much that it makes them stressed and eager causing massive release of adrenaline which does exactly the same thing to the body as stimulants. They're high on themselves ! And eventually their hips thin out, their chest looses bilateral flexibility, and their head stops growing. Ok maybe I'm not being very scientific here, but I submit that our brain is meant to grow until 40 yo at least.

I'm like stucked in a human species that I'm pretty much the only member of, with not much potential sexual partners, those that do light my fire up are always in a couple, because they get the best part of the deal it seems (probably their man is very quick to satisfy), their man is dependant on their mastery of said cerebrospinal fluid to remain healthy, which is very sad in my observation. Codependant relationships are physiological to me in nature, much more than social engeneering would have us beleive.

People are like : what ? your brain gorges with blood and fluid lipids ?

Yes ! My cranial plates dislocate and become maleable, the back of my neck becomes twice as thick and circulates a warm fluid that makes me flexible, my face flexes and becomes very wide and takes pink colors... when I'm balanced (I didn't indulge substances or much smoking during the previous week) my spine feels hollow and it's like I can breathe air through it (its a feeling) which keeps my head very cool while my legs and arms can get very powerful and rapid. Martial arts practicioners will relate to this chi-kong breathing.

I have yet to see people that keep this capacity when sexually aroused ... I seen some young couples that have it naturally, but have not seen them keeping it for more than a few years, exept some that aren't very active or some single woman.

Yet it's my job to bring people there, but they stop when they're balanced, they want nothing to do with growth (ascension) and seem satisfied with basic sexual potential. I'm appaled by this in someways, I would have expected SOME people I consult to be interested in developping those ancient techniques, but no, people seem to dodge the subject like Neo would dodge bullets !

And I don't want to look like a freak or anything, but I have seen thousands of naked men and woman, and hundreds of couples ; even some making love when I was there as if to thank me and show me they could satisfy each other, and even met me on webcam and invited me to chats because they were proud of being sexually "normal". I have even realised some of them consulted me just because they were exhibitionists who wanted to look like potent lovers, once they had that they were quick to forget about me. Of course there is not much that have consulted me directly for sex and shown like this, but because of them I could see the physiognomy that is related to this kind of sexual potential.

Yes you might think I have a very unique life, what some would expect of the aquarian lifestyle, that was my youth alright.

When your best friend asks you if he can have intercourse with your girlfriend for fun, and you answer yes sure, why not, you're like my brother. And woman walk around in your house naked, without a bit of shame, and then there is the lesbians... Well you can think you're in a position to understand what I lived. Because it wasn't like promscuity... it was all very... unique. I still have very good contact with many of those peoples, but for the most part they forgot what happened back then.

what a drag... 8)

 

[Brugmansia]

So I can conclude that only one ingestion in life of let's say 6 grams of cubensis is not in line with your autonomic nervous system because of the eventual adjustment in your hypothalamus?

 

[Ahuaeynjxs]

That depends alot what you will do before , during and after the trip. And how strong your serotonin function is...

I did it, and saw myself in the mirror, it changed my life, I even had strong telepathic experiences with 3 other friends.

Nothing pleasant however, it was all very heavy with revelations.

 

[GOD]

Dog shit contains higher levels of L-Dopa .

 

[mysticwarrior]

Khat is used for its stimulant effects. The effects are similar to but less intense than those of methamphetamine or cocaine. Fresh leaves are chewed and dried leaves are smoked, made into a paste and chewed, or brewed in tea. Used moderately, khat alleviates fatigue and reduces appetite. Long term use or abuse can cause insomnia, anorexia, gastric disorders, depression, liver damage and cardiac complications. Manic behavior, delusional behavior, violence, suicidal depression, hallucinations, paranoia and khat-induced psychosis have also been reported.

It doesn't sound like a save stimulant. I will rather eat sand then using something like that again

 

[mysticwarrior]

In addition to levodopa, Mucuna also contains serotonin (5-HT), 5-HTP, nicotine, N,N-DMT (DMT), bufotenine, and 5-MeO-DMT. As such, it could potentially have psychedelic effects, and it has purportedly been used in ayahuasca preparations.[15]

Mucuna sounds interesting, not only for a stimulant usage but also for psychedelic property's.

 

[GOD]

I know about its use as itching powder , can you please show me FACTS about its use as a psychedelic .