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Datura is a poison , not a drug
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What a stupid post... any substance, even water is a poison, if you consume enough of it. Datura is a very toxic plant, thats it.
Well, I had my first experience of tropanes... welll actually they were two of them.... and guess what.... It was the smell that got me high combined with cannabis...!
I have a yellow brugmansia in my roof and I often sit there on the hot summer nights... So I had smoked a couple of joints, when I felt the strong smell. Then some time, some moments later, it hit me, it didn't occur to me that it was the smell, but fuck, it was too strange ands strong and different to assume it was a cannabis high... it lasted 10-15 mins.... it was stimulating ... and strange.... the next night I had a similar effect, less strong- unfortunately I didnt have a sitter available to experiment with straight inhaling the flower...
I know its not a big deal, I thought I should mention anyway...
PS: Brugmanisa flowers only smell at night....
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I was in Crete and was astounded that the solanceae's are widely spread around every hotel. It is no doubt that in Greece atropa's have played a role in Greece rich and long long history.
I have licked the brugmansia flowers years ago when I wasn't aware of the dangers of tropanes. I just yawned a bit and my mind seemed 'empty', reacted less on my environment. Even felt a bit gentle.
That was all, drinked a bit of water because my head seemed slightly warmer, but only very slightely.
This short film implies what a heroic dose of tropanes will do:
Image yourself being the guy....
'If Datura takes your life, you belong to an evil group of people and you cannot free yourself from it' is an ancient saying.
I have licked the brugmansia flowers years ago when I wasn't aware of the dangers of tropanes. I just yawned a bit and my mind seemed 'empty', reacted less on my environment. Even felt a bit gentle.
That was all, drinked a bit of water because my head seemed slightly warmer, but only very slightely.
This short film implies what a heroic dose of tropanes will do:
Image yourself being the guy....
'If Datura takes your life, you belong to an evil group of people and you cannot free yourself from it' is an ancient saying.
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Wow!!! that's quite amazing, a friend had exactly the SAME hallucination: the phone flying with a call up to him when laidback!!! But this time he was under Dimenhydrinate... I spent very good times on anticholinergic thanks to a very carefull preparation... But I say it again: don't do it without an experimented guy.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYd8TLlS ... re=related
It'd be interesting being such a volunteer in a responsible way. Otherwise, avoid Datura.
It'd be interesting being such a volunteer in a responsible way. Otherwise, avoid Datura.
i though id show you guys this seed pod i have from a double datura plant. i thinks its pretty cool. i probably wouldnt try it. i think its the wrong kind anyway. i d probably just die...or thered be a cool trip first. i dont know...... maybe 
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Nice pic !
Datura just isn't a recreational plant... the trip's hallucinations are definately mind-boggeling and could make an unprepared mind crazy ! Also the plant seems to hold a spirit of its own and often will avenge itself from stupid consumers who just take a bunch of seeds to hallucinate.
Oh it will make you hallucinate, but it can kill you too, by making you see a bridge thats not there over a cliff. Some people end up naked in fountains or frying money into a pan with butter, it's all very funny to someone who has never tried the substance, but for someone familiar ; its wrought with spiritual significance.
Anyways you can eat a few seeds and have a nice anti-cholinegic effect (like the allergy medicines) that can be a little aphrodisiac, but it's very strong and if you go over the dosage the substance will affect your hormones too much and sex will be detrimental in that case, will deplete your body reserves.
I know it's a very taboo plant because I have been banned from many like forums for just mentioning the plant.
It's a plant you have to tame, veeery slowly.
Anyways, even if you do get hallucination most people would NOT be be able to handle the unpleasant side effects, extreme drowsiness and terrible, I mean TERRIBLE cotton mouth and nausea.
Datura just isn't a recreational plant... the trip's hallucinations are definately mind-boggeling and could make an unprepared mind crazy ! Also the plant seems to hold a spirit of its own and often will avenge itself from stupid consumers who just take a bunch of seeds to hallucinate.
Oh it will make you hallucinate, but it can kill you too, by making you see a bridge thats not there over a cliff. Some people end up naked in fountains or frying money into a pan with butter, it's all very funny to someone who has never tried the substance, but for someone familiar ; its wrought with spiritual significance.
Anyways you can eat a few seeds and have a nice anti-cholinegic effect (like the allergy medicines) that can be a little aphrodisiac, but it's very strong and if you go over the dosage the substance will affect your hormones too much and sex will be detrimental in that case, will deplete your body reserves.
I know it's a very taboo plant because I have been banned from many like forums for just mentioning the plant.
It's a plant you have to tame, veeery slowly.
Anyways, even if you do get hallucination most people would NOT be be able to handle the unpleasant side effects, extreme drowsiness and terrible, I mean TERRIBLE cotton mouth and nausea.
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If you sniff the flowers too much you'll get high 
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Smoke cannabis.
Go to sit in front of her beautiful flowers while the moon light is fully present. Smell her flowers, she smells nice during clear nights in the summer. Keep smelling and focus on the smell that's going into your head.
She has intoxinated me the most when I touched the pod with my fingers and licked the spores of off my fingers (this was actually unintended). And within 10 minutes I lost heavy thoughts, a more glass like vision, became calm and gentle, little thirsty which was reserved and solved by just drinking water, music was a bit more 'deeper'. That was it, no dreams or hallucinatons. Quite pleasant and an easy taking attitude. Normal levels of consciousness, just a decreased amount of present thoughts. It was quite a magic, yet worrying feeling that tiny rests of the plant already had such an effect.
It's interesting to read about the Datura use, there are two types of dosages. Datura has a sort of line.
At a dose before that line, you get calm, you yawn, get sleepy, forgetful, less aware of gravity, empty thoughted, better ability to look clearly far away, but getting irratted by having to focus on letters which is quite an effort, plants and trees are more present. When this fades away it's just over.
A dose over that line has the same effects as above, except that there comes a moment in where the user falls into a nap unnoticed, then shakes awake and has no memory at all. This where the long-lasting *crazy* effects start. One gets paranoid, overactive, wild, reacting and interacting with a world only seen by him, completely bombed with everything and everyone.
Also, most users are hopelessy trying to get up from their position, the gravity has became so utterly heavy that one grabs everywhere around him to get up out of the chair, the body is so paralyzed. It's like he's trying with his mind but someone is pulling him back. It feels like one is getting raped, raped by the feminist Datura. She rapes men by sucking all their physical strength out of their muscles. Except for one muscle, your heart, which gets to deal with a rapid and extreme contraction pump.
There seem to be even phases in where delirium users are completely sane and aware of their normal environment. Then they close their eyes, suddenly embraced by black and silence and not hearing any sound anymore. Then another devilish episode of the datura world appears as a complete reality while the normal world has been never known.
It may take a long time for delirium users to get back to normal, because at first the world is just a visual content with no emotions attached to it. And with closed eyes, there may be still moments of complete dark silence and magical energy. It may take a week before life is normal again. And as the time goes by, more parts are remembered. While right after the experience, it's more amnesia.
It's just as uncontrolleable as normal sleep dreams. And after the experience, the eyes have a difficulty to deal with light and focus, blurried doubled vision.
Doing 0.5 mg acid, 6 grams of shrooms, 550 mg's of Ketamine and a big San Pedro might result in a lucid dream as well. And most likely a more pleasant one than a datura dream. But more importantly, if you pass out, it's just a matter of waiting. And whatever the effects may be, and where you suffer from, you're physically safe. If you've got entheogens and you're interested in datura, then just do such a combination as above.
If you pass out on the half of a teaspoon on datura seeds, your central nervous system is in serious danger due to her anticholinergic properties. Expanded veins, inability to swallow and sweat, heart rate, body temprature, all membranes, extreme stomach pains and what not.
After breaking through on DMT and K-Holing, my subconsciousness has completely lost connection and interest with solanaceae's. I wouldn't even think about an effect like DMT or Ketamine which is completely horror, dangerous and long-lasting. There's no way to control Dimitri and K at it's full potential. Datura kills enlightment with even a greater power.
Go to sit in front of her beautiful flowers while the moon light is fully present. Smell her flowers, she smells nice during clear nights in the summer. Keep smelling and focus on the smell that's going into your head.
She has intoxinated me the most when I touched the pod with my fingers and licked the spores of off my fingers (this was actually unintended). And within 10 minutes I lost heavy thoughts, a more glass like vision, became calm and gentle, little thirsty which was reserved and solved by just drinking water, music was a bit more 'deeper'. That was it, no dreams or hallucinatons. Quite pleasant and an easy taking attitude. Normal levels of consciousness, just a decreased amount of present thoughts. It was quite a magic, yet worrying feeling that tiny rests of the plant already had such an effect.
It's interesting to read about the Datura use, there are two types of dosages. Datura has a sort of line.
At a dose before that line, you get calm, you yawn, get sleepy, forgetful, less aware of gravity, empty thoughted, better ability to look clearly far away, but getting irratted by having to focus on letters which is quite an effort, plants and trees are more present. When this fades away it's just over.
A dose over that line has the same effects as above, except that there comes a moment in where the user falls into a nap unnoticed, then shakes awake and has no memory at all. This where the long-lasting *crazy* effects start. One gets paranoid, overactive, wild, reacting and interacting with a world only seen by him, completely bombed with everything and everyone.
Also, most users are hopelessy trying to get up from their position, the gravity has became so utterly heavy that one grabs everywhere around him to get up out of the chair, the body is so paralyzed. It's like he's trying with his mind but someone is pulling him back. It feels like one is getting raped, raped by the feminist Datura. She rapes men by sucking all their physical strength out of their muscles. Except for one muscle, your heart, which gets to deal with a rapid and extreme contraction pump.
There seem to be even phases in where delirium users are completely sane and aware of their normal environment. Then they close their eyes, suddenly embraced by black and silence and not hearing any sound anymore. Then another devilish episode of the datura world appears as a complete reality while the normal world has been never known.
It may take a long time for delirium users to get back to normal, because at first the world is just a visual content with no emotions attached to it. And with closed eyes, there may be still moments of complete dark silence and magical energy. It may take a week before life is normal again. And as the time goes by, more parts are remembered. While right after the experience, it's more amnesia.
It's just as uncontrolleable as normal sleep dreams. And after the experience, the eyes have a difficulty to deal with light and focus, blurried doubled vision.
Doing 0.5 mg acid, 6 grams of shrooms, 550 mg's of Ketamine and a big San Pedro might result in a lucid dream as well. And most likely a more pleasant one than a datura dream. But more importantly, if you pass out, it's just a matter of waiting. And whatever the effects may be, and where you suffer from, you're physically safe. If you've got entheogens and you're interested in datura, then just do such a combination as above.
If you pass out on the half of a teaspoon on datura seeds, your central nervous system is in serious danger due to her anticholinergic properties. Expanded veins, inability to swallow and sweat, heart rate, body temprature, all membranes, extreme stomach pains and what not.
After breaking through on DMT and K-Holing, my subconsciousness has completely lost connection and interest with solanaceae's. I wouldn't even think about an effect like DMT or Ketamine which is completely horror, dangerous and long-lasting. There's no way to control Dimitri and K at it's full potential. Datura kills enlightment with even a greater power.
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Very interesting post Mr.Bru... but suggesting half a gram of very potent synthetic K over a natural experience of Datura ? I cannot condone any of em.
There is no way however you got high from touching the datura plant, of course it has essential oils on the surface of the skins that will get you high eventually, but that you hadn't told is is that you were naked in a giant bush and rubbing your body on it. (all the experienced ones know its the softest plant on the earth) It does not makes spores, it makes seeds...
You have to understand that datura affects your dreams, it isn't like some kind of magic line where you loose control of everything, it's the dream world that gets superposed with reality. For 90% people this is highly unpleasant since they usually don't recall much their dreams, let alone have lucid dreaming abilities !
Myself I don't become paranoid, nor wild, nor I have any desire to move at all... I have had much wilder dreams than Datura gives me, so even if I slip into a datura dream where I'm at my friends house trying to light up a blunt, and I feel the wind and smell what this place smells... I don't worry since a datura dream is much more noticeable than a real one, thus I get lucid although I cannot quite control anything like a normal lucid dream. I guess if the plant "consciousness" decided to make me freak out badly it could, but I don't really beleive in such things, even if its part of my experience, so to me a plant you respect is a plant that treats you well. There are many ways to disrespect a plant.
That does not mean it is so for anyone, to be clear datura isn't a recreational experience, it isn't pleasant... and you need a sitter if you really want to try it. Make sure you have no heart problem or other healthproblems, it is very heavy on the body and potentially dangerous.
It makes you heavy but it obviously does not make everyone so heavy and paralised since some stand up and run a marathon without drinking a drop of water and still live... everyone reacts differently to this one, which is why it is so taboo.
Man you have to trip very hard, I mean VERY hard if it takes you one week to come back to normal life... you are exagerating here, which is noble but lets face it if someone wants to try it he will find his info somewhere, so we're better off warning him that trying to use fear to push him away. Datura isn't a plant you can trip on from the very first try, you have to find your seeds from all the same plant, eat 10, wait, 1-2 weeks later eat 20, and see where you get...
I'm curious about what you did during your trip if you had total amnesia after it... because in none of my trips I forgot anything right after it happened, it must have been hell of a trip ! For me the hallucinations are wild, but definately have no power over me since I don't get to that dosage, it's harmful to the body anyways. My dream isn't controlable as I cannot choose what happens exactly, but if I see a silhouette walk in the door I can hope it's my good friend I have not seen in a while and that comes in for a chat, and we chat for 30 min with very rich communication.
My vision isn't blurred or double either, it's very sharp but the colors and light have a tendency to form phosphenes veeery quick, it's impressive, thats when you start to flip into mini dreams (paralel universes?)
Your motives are quite obscur to me about what you say... 6 grams of shrooms + all the other stuff ? If you want to damage your hypothalamus I don't see any better way to proceed... you might not feel any harm since you are numbed but thats certainly completely crazy, kids do not try this.
To me it sounds like you had killed your enlightenment way before Datura made you realise it !
There is no way however you got high from touching the datura plant, of course it has essential oils on the surface of the skins that will get you high eventually, but that you hadn't told is is that you were naked in a giant bush and rubbing your body on it. (all the experienced ones know its the softest plant on the earth) It does not makes spores, it makes seeds...
You have to understand that datura affects your dreams, it isn't like some kind of magic line where you loose control of everything, it's the dream world that gets superposed with reality. For 90% people this is highly unpleasant since they usually don't recall much their dreams, let alone have lucid dreaming abilities !
Myself I don't become paranoid, nor wild, nor I have any desire to move at all... I have had much wilder dreams than Datura gives me, so even if I slip into a datura dream where I'm at my friends house trying to light up a blunt, and I feel the wind and smell what this place smells... I don't worry since a datura dream is much more noticeable than a real one, thus I get lucid although I cannot quite control anything like a normal lucid dream. I guess if the plant "consciousness" decided to make me freak out badly it could, but I don't really beleive in such things, even if its part of my experience, so to me a plant you respect is a plant that treats you well. There are many ways to disrespect a plant.
That does not mean it is so for anyone, to be clear datura isn't a recreational experience, it isn't pleasant... and you need a sitter if you really want to try it. Make sure you have no heart problem or other healthproblems, it is very heavy on the body and potentially dangerous.
It makes you heavy but it obviously does not make everyone so heavy and paralised since some stand up and run a marathon without drinking a drop of water and still live... everyone reacts differently to this one, which is why it is so taboo.
Man you have to trip very hard, I mean VERY hard if it takes you one week to come back to normal life... you are exagerating here, which is noble but lets face it if someone wants to try it he will find his info somewhere, so we're better off warning him that trying to use fear to push him away. Datura isn't a plant you can trip on from the very first try, you have to find your seeds from all the same plant, eat 10, wait, 1-2 weeks later eat 20, and see where you get...
I'm curious about what you did during your trip if you had total amnesia after it... because in none of my trips I forgot anything right after it happened, it must have been hell of a trip ! For me the hallucinations are wild, but definately have no power over me since I don't get to that dosage, it's harmful to the body anyways. My dream isn't controlable as I cannot choose what happens exactly, but if I see a silhouette walk in the door I can hope it's my good friend I have not seen in a while and that comes in for a chat, and we chat for 30 min with very rich communication.
My vision isn't blurred or double either, it's very sharp but the colors and light have a tendency to form phosphenes veeery quick, it's impressive, thats when you start to flip into mini dreams (paralel universes?)
Your motives are quite obscur to me about what you say... 6 grams of shrooms + all the other stuff ? If you want to damage your hypothalamus I don't see any better way to proceed... you might not feel any harm since you are numbed but thats certainly completely crazy, kids do not try this.
To me it sounds like you had killed your enlightenment way before Datura made you realise it !
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All of them at the same time? Teehee, now that would be something to remember...or not. :lol:
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I opened the pods when I was in Crete, Greece. It were young pods and used bare fingers to get it open, the seeds were green and there remained material which sticked itself to my fingers because I rubbed and ripped them open. It was so close, that I was seduced and licked my fingers off. When I got to know more about the plant it totally turned off my interests.
The rest is information that I collected from the Internet from users who seemed generally knowledgeable with the use themselve.
Smelling datura does not intoxinate you, but the smell does activate thoughts if you focus on it repeately. It's the same with cannabis if I'm walking through a railway station and youths are smoking it. As I smell their second hand smoke, I have flows of the cannabis high activated by the neureological activity in my brain. Smoking pure cannabis makes your sensory more accessible to smell the flowers. I can recommended it.
I was refering to OD's too, the build up can go so enormously fast that you ingest relatively a little plant material which consists a bunch of alkaloids. And it wasn't an exception that many ODérs had to wait long before their original feelings were given back when they turned back to normal.
The endless discussion about plant material vs. chemicals is a principle one. I rather look how a substance binds itselfs to receptors and what consequences it has to the CNS. Datura can affect the CNS in a very nasty way.
The other 4 drugs were metaphorically a comparison. Because there's always a chance that one passes out through datura ingestion. And none of those each 4 other drugs put you in physical danger if you'd take them combined in those amounts. The endocrien system is not damaged by those 4. But we humans can't overcome the inability to breath for instance.
Raw plant material orally (which includes swallowing seeds) are known for their VERY powerful anticholinergic effects compared to tea, cooked brews or smoked material.
I'm more or less dazed that you talk about 10 raw seeds, but then again, I don't have that experience. I know that in India they only take ONE raw seed and meet 'new life', and if not, better luck next time. Also witches used drops out of the Belladonna cherry, or cooked them with many other ingredients in flying ointments. Tropanes were just ONE ingredient of many. Shamans almost never used raw plant material either but cooked it and/or mixed it as a secundairy addition to Peyote or Ayahuasca.
Also the minor positive reports in where people were truly in a wakened dream as you mentioned, where just with one or two seeds. Definitely not ten. Although some also reports that they swallowed a lot and didn't got any effect out of it.
Anyway, I'm interesting in hearing your experience, I read something earlier that tolerance goes rapidly and repeated use leads to an adaption of the body and mind. Care to share more thoughts?
The rest is information that I collected from the Internet from users who seemed generally knowledgeable with the use themselve.
Smelling datura does not intoxinate you, but the smell does activate thoughts if you focus on it repeately. It's the same with cannabis if I'm walking through a railway station and youths are smoking it. As I smell their second hand smoke, I have flows of the cannabis high activated by the neureological activity in my brain. Smoking pure cannabis makes your sensory more accessible to smell the flowers. I can recommended it.
I was refering to OD's too, the build up can go so enormously fast that you ingest relatively a little plant material which consists a bunch of alkaloids. And it wasn't an exception that many ODérs had to wait long before their original feelings were given back when they turned back to normal.
The endless discussion about plant material vs. chemicals is a principle one. I rather look how a substance binds itselfs to receptors and what consequences it has to the CNS. Datura can affect the CNS in a very nasty way.
The other 4 drugs were metaphorically a comparison. Because there's always a chance that one passes out through datura ingestion. And none of those each 4 other drugs put you in physical danger if you'd take them combined in those amounts. The endocrien system is not damaged by those 4. But we humans can't overcome the inability to breath for instance.
Raw plant material orally (which includes swallowing seeds) are known for their VERY powerful anticholinergic effects compared to tea, cooked brews or smoked material.
I'm more or less dazed that you talk about 10 raw seeds, but then again, I don't have that experience. I know that in India they only take ONE raw seed and meet 'new life', and if not, better luck next time. Also witches used drops out of the Belladonna cherry, or cooked them with many other ingredients in flying ointments. Tropanes were just ONE ingredient of many. Shamans almost never used raw plant material either but cooked it and/or mixed it as a secundairy addition to Peyote or Ayahuasca.
Also the minor positive reports in where people were truly in a wakened dream as you mentioned, where just with one or two seeds. Definitely not ten. Although some also reports that they swallowed a lot and didn't got any effect out of it.
Anyway, I'm interesting in hearing your experience, I read something earlier that tolerance goes rapidly and repeated use leads to an adaption of the body and mind. Care to share more thoughts?
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Well for one the brumangsia tree in south america is called the tree of eternal slumber by the natives. I have gotten high from sitting next to a nice bush of datura and smelling the flowers for a while. Yes sadly the fresh apple has a very sweet taste and that lead to a few accidents because children thought it tasted good.
It is often said by the natives that many visitors sat under this nice tree because of its inviting smell, took a nap and never woke up.
It's a dangerous plant, tropanes are kinda volatile, and the sniffing the essential oil the tree puts off is definately psychoactive.
What are your sources for saying that this particular combination is not dangerous to the endocrine system... ?
I don't see how even 6 grams of low potency mushroom could not harm the endocrine system if it's balanced. Ok if you're an adrenaline-dopamine fiend with an amped up metabolism because you don't have any melatonin function to harm with the substance... but if you're a lucid dreamer or a tantric lover you will definately notice the harm of high dose psychedelics on the brain.
Remember how the priestess of magic mushrooms in south america... what was her name again ? Said it was important not to have sex before and after a mushroom trip, big clue here !
It is often said by the natives that many visitors sat under this nice tree because of its inviting smell, took a nap and never woke up.
It's a dangerous plant, tropanes are kinda volatile, and the sniffing the essential oil the tree puts off is definately psychoactive.
What are your sources for saying that this particular combination is not dangerous to the endocrine system... ?
I don't see how even 6 grams of low potency mushroom could not harm the endocrine system if it's balanced. Ok if you're an adrenaline-dopamine fiend with an amped up metabolism because you don't have any melatonin function to harm with the substance... but if you're a lucid dreamer or a tantric lover you will definately notice the harm of high dose psychedelics on the brain.
Remember how the priestess of magic mushrooms in south america... what was her name again ? Said it was important not to have sex before and after a mushroom trip, big clue here !
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But aren't some experiences worth a little damage?
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If I saw someblotters like the ones you have in your picture, I'd probably think twice about it ! 
But yeah , I'm not saying it's quasi-irreversible damage either like : cocaine, speed and extasy. It's on a whole different level... it depends what you think when you trip.
I'm pretty sure any of you who have experiences psychedelics felt more like we're connected to the world and a certain sense of power, not power over others, but integral power to fullfill your own life.
Well some researchers found that psychedelics can highen alot the rate at which you absorb food into your body, it makes the membrane more permeable to other substances like minerals and amines. So it also depends on your diet, because when those funny crystals get into your brain stem, it will also augment piezo-electricity, thats why we see patterns, the electricity in there is moving lots of ions compared to what it usually can, thats bound to create lots of free radicals, those are the body's challenger, they're used for fighting germs too in the form of NO. Those glands that are outside of the BBB are bound to receive a nasty dose, thats why you need free radical quenchers and ideally for your sexual systems to stay asleep.
My thoughts about this aren't really extreme, I just feel it makes sense to communicate it.
But yeah , I'm not saying it's quasi-irreversible damage either like : cocaine, speed and extasy. It's on a whole different level... it depends what you think when you trip.
I'm pretty sure any of you who have experiences psychedelics felt more like we're connected to the world and a certain sense of power, not power over others, but integral power to fullfill your own life.
Well some researchers found that psychedelics can highen alot the rate at which you absorb food into your body, it makes the membrane more permeable to other substances like minerals and amines. So it also depends on your diet, because when those funny crystals get into your brain stem, it will also augment piezo-electricity, thats why we see patterns, the electricity in there is moving lots of ions compared to what it usually can, thats bound to create lots of free radicals, those are the body's challenger, they're used for fighting germs too in the form of NO. Those glands that are outside of the BBB are bound to receive a nasty dose, thats why you need free radical quenchers and ideally for your sexual systems to stay asleep.
My thoughts about this aren't really extreme, I just feel it makes sense to communicate it.
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dude aren't you overstressing a bit about the sex thing? yeah we know it depletes stuff in our brains but i think i speak for the majority when i say it's totally worth it! although i have never had sex while tripping and i would think seriously if i were to since i suppose it could get pretty weird... in fact i don't think i would even try it unless the other person meant a lot to me and we were 100% comfortable with it .
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Yes thats it !
Well... my job is to make people and couples potent again after abusing drugs and sex, so it's not that I stress it, it's just I don't feel I say it enough generally.
Datura is a freakin strong aphrodisiac in very small doses, but it wil drain you 4 times more than if you were in a natural state. It can even be dangerous to the heart if you take a little too high of a dose and have greatly stimulating sex.
I don't think it's being overzealous to repeat it, after all not everyone takes the time to go see all the threads I wrote, so it's pertinent, I write it !
You pseudo is almost as strange as mine :lol:
Well... my job is to make people and couples potent again after abusing drugs and sex, so it's not that I stress it, it's just I don't feel I say it enough generally.
Datura is a freakin strong aphrodisiac in very small doses, but it wil drain you 4 times more than if you were in a natural state. It can even be dangerous to the heart if you take a little too high of a dose and have greatly stimulating sex.
I don't think it's being overzealous to repeat it, after all not everyone takes the time to go see all the threads I wrote, so it's pertinent, I write it !
You pseudo is almost as strange as mine :lol:
mine is just my name in greek... yours seems to be the name of a forgotten aztec god
oh you also made me realize i do have 1000 posts now! this is the only forum where i have so many posts and by a great margin! i'd like to take this opportunity to thank all the nice people who post regularly here and make such a cool community!
*bows and steps out of the podium*
oh you also made me realize i do have 1000 posts now! this is the only forum where i have so many posts and by a great margin! i'd like to take this opportunity to thank all the nice people who post regularly here and make such a cool community!
*bows and steps out of the podium*
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