Where's the psychonautic's?

[spice]

It's ALL possible, if you assume, as I do, that DNA communicates with other DNA.

Zen says that the love of labeling and classifying things is 'a sickness of the mind'....

Yes, it's true that you can lose all of your innate gifts of perception because of what was referred to earlier as 'filters'
or labels, and the limitations they bring....but there is a 'cure'....the ancient zenners called it 'awakening', aka 'enlightenment'.....or, simply, zen.

See Suzuki, and Alan Watts for an explanation of how to defeat 'the sickness of the mind'

( Hint: It's the same way you'd control a bad trip..........
by letting go)

 

[user_1919]

Hmmm nice post Spice, hit me differently

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I will be scientist now!
All this were at first some kind of hallucinations which are produced by DXM
Second DXM is blocker of important part of brain so this can explain tensity of XP produced by DXM drug! Hallucinations in DEXA defined way with confusion and also vivid&lucid eye opened dreaming.
At the end explanation is that we use only 10% of brain cause rest is reserve parts for future, elderly times! This is true but I do not know how much exactly is prepared for damage control and replace cell parts?! 90% is toooo much for sure, but at the other hand yo can't denied that cause no one knows.
Why two guys on acid(example) in some % of times have feeling or mirrored look between them with felling of mind melting or telepathy? Low concentration, confusion, can easy suggest mind that he reads thoughts or have same thoughts in same time with other guy. And in most of time this thoughts are simple and in some way psychotic?!.

Spiritual part of me is telling me that DXM is producing lots of synchron-nicitetum! The effect which is active in time when something 'higher' is evolving around?!.
Telepathy? I have XP this dozen times and what to say? True and unexplainable.
Castaneda has described this as Nagual, event or things with perfect sense but unexplainable cause they can't be explained. Nagual is world of acceptances without explanation of secured and familiar mind.

 

[Meduzz]

Telepathy? I have XP this dozen times and what to say? True and unexplainable.

unexplainable? no... not explained YET.
quantum mechanics already gives a lot of hints that it's possible.

 

[spice]

any of you read a book called 'The Cosmic Serpent'....?


This book explains a lot. It gives a rational, BELIEVABLE theory that explains what you are all talking about, and a whole lot more besides,

It explains how ancient drawings on cave walls by pre-historic psychonauts portray many of the very same types of visions as we experience today.....and why.

I'm not going to ruin the book for anyone by giving away the premise here, but i SERIOSLY advise anyone with the means and ability to GET THIS BOOK NOW.

....and no, itis NOT a hard science book.

It is a book for psychonauts, that give some plausibe, easy-to-grasp theoretical observations and educated guesses as to what in the fuck is 'really going on'.

My guess is that no one who frequents these boards is familiar with it....if I am in error, and you'd like to discuss it, please, by all means speak up !

What I will do, if no one comes forward with it, is go and retrieve the copy that I had from afar, and discuss it here, in a separate topic thread.

I believe it to be a major work, destined to line up with 'The Doors of Perception' and ' The Archaic Revival '.


Meduzz- I don't know if we'll EVER get all that quantum stuff explained...Pauli's exclusion theory pretty much moves the ball every time we get near...and that's just atoms and electrons, which for the most part obey the laws of classical physics.....quantum phenomanae are so difficult for humans because it is so counter-intuitive, and basically defeats our powers of observation and deductive reasoning because;

a) It all goes on invisibly, so we have to infer ( humanity has a lot more trouble with induction than deduction )

b) It is non-logical, and non-local....


It is the YIN to the YANG of Applied Science.

 

[spice]

Awesome- It's all over the web.

http://deoxy.org/meme/CosmicSerpent

 

[silv]

At the end explanation is that we use only 10% of brain cause rest is reserve parts for future, elderly times! This is true but I do not know how much exactly is prepared for damage control and replace cell parts?! 90% is toooo much for sure, but at the other hand yo can't denied that cause no one knows.

The problem is ALL parts of the brain are already being used, scanners for brain activity already show that. The fact that certain parts can take over certain tasks from brain damaged areas means that our brain isn't perfectly efficient but all of it IS being used.
I'll get that book spice Who's the writer?

 

[Meduzz]

if someone is interested in the link between quantum mechanics and sjamanism, read The Eagle's Quest by Fred Alan Wolf. ISBN: 0671675346

he also takes part in ayahuasca rituals and compares his experiences with quantummechanic theories. and he is shocked with the similarities...

 

[Forkbender]

'The Cosmic Serpent'

Loved it.

We organized a lecture by the writer, Jeremy Narby, in Amsterdam a couple of weeks back. The video will probably be available soon.

 

[Forkbender]

The problem is ALL parts of the brain are already being used, scanners for brain activity already show that. The fact that certain parts can take over certain tasks from brain damaged areas means that our brain isn't perfectly efficient but all of it IS being used.
I'll get that book spice Who's the writer?

Jeremy Narby.

Other interesting books on the subject:
The Holographic Universe - Michael Talbot
The Field - Lynn McTaggart

 

[BrainEater]

does anyone know if i can get these books as e-books somewhere on the internet? would be nice, though nobody would profit from it, except from myself. :mrgreen:

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Telepathy? I have XP this dozen times and what to say? True and unexplainable.

unexplainable? no... not explained YET.
quantum mechanics already gives a lot of hints that it's possible.

I have compared telephaty with Nagual from Castaneda books. Nagual(telephaty) can be observed but we will never explain it cause telephaty is part of unexplainable 'ways'

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

At the end explanation is that we use only 10% of brain cause rest is reserve parts for future, elderly times! This is true but I do not know how much exactly is prepared for damage control and replace cell parts?! 90% is toooo much for sure, but at the other hand yo can't denied that cause no one knows.

The problem is ALL parts of the brain are already being used, scanners for brain activity already show that. The fact that certain parts can take over certain tasks from brain damaged areas means that our brain isn't perfectly efficient but all of it IS being used.
I'll get that book spice Who's the writer?

YES, we use all of our brain! for signal transfer! And true using of brain mater is not described as '10% is active, the rest is dead'. We use only 10% of maximum capacity which each cell have potently in them.

 

[trick]

Ya thats what I meant to say I guess it just came out a bit diffrent.

Im going to the book store in a few days ill look for that book while im there, I looked at that webpage and it looks very interesting. Definatly worth my time .


Ive got another little theory to throw out to you guys, this one might be a little harder to grasp if your sobor right now but after comming off of my first high dxm dose[and last i might add] I had this overwhelming feeling of enlightenment, like the universe just made sence to me. What i wrote in my trip/dream journal seemed completely logical at the time but now looks like i wasnt completely done trpping :lol:.

I also might add that this was a few trips after the one with the paranormal activity [isnt paranormal concerning ghosts? if so the i dont know wht word to use]

During this trip nothing special happend concerning unexplanable phenomina BUT i becamed enlightend as to the whole subject. My theory was that DXM was a gateway to heaven[no individual religion], that all of those "gateway" drugs are all gateways to DXM and that once exparemented with would enabel you to do literally ANYTHING if you set your mind to it, not like setting a goal but acctually doing it with your mind. I felt that the mind and spirit had no natural boundrys other than the ones that we make buy not using all of the potental that we have [if that makes sence] There was alot more to it but I lost that journal and its all a bit foggy to me now but i think you guys get the basic principal of where i was going with it.

Now that i look back at when i wrote that it seems that i was a bit dilusional, but when i wrote it if felt so true. Like God himself told me and I diddnt even question my findings subcounsously, i just accepted it as the truth. I kinda want to do it again and document it better then study the trip but DXM isnt exactly the best for you.

Some day...

 

[sopor]

A while ago, when I was more interested in occultism, I discovered chaos magick.
It is a very interesting philosophy (way of life?). Its popular quote beeing "Nothing is True and Everything is Permitted" it denies everything and belives that one can change the world when he knows how to operate with subconceous mind. Subconceous mind can be entered when in trance induced by drugs, dancing, meditating, ... Basicly if you subconceously belive that something is true, it is true. As above so below. Do you see the similarity with trick's experience?

 

[trick]

im a magician and i get so good at some slight of hand stuff that i have to remind myself that its a trick because i got it down so good i dont even think about the moves, i just see the results lol

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

A while ago, when I was more interested in occultism, I discovered chaos magick.
It is a very interesting philosophy (way of life?). Its popular quote beeing "Nothing is True and Everything is Permitted" it denies everything and belives that one can change the world when he knows how to operate with subconceous mind. Subconceous mind can be entered when in trance induced by drugs, dancing, meditating, ... Basicly if you subconceously belive that something is true, it is true. As above so below. Do you see the similarity with trick's experience?

This is just for me normal looking with mind and eyes. Reality is what you want it to be. But also this is arranged from begging from teaching of our parents, culture, people round us. Just look what kind of perceptive incoming have Peruans, Siberians, Japanise or EU-USA people.

 

[trick]

It kills me how much america tries to control drugs... a bit random but i had to just throw it out there. Its been a long and stressful day all because of americas stupid view on psychedelics being the same as anyother drug. In my viewpoint psychedelics are not bad at all and should be regulated by the US and that marijuana while not as bad as tobbacco is not 'as good' as psychedelics. Even if being used for psychonautic research, it can still cause some problems, dont get me wrong im not trasshing Marry Jane, but im just saying it has the most potential for abuse if legalized, altho ide rather see MJ being smoked everywhere instead of TB. I got into a big debate with my probation officer about the legalization of durugs and I cam to the conclsion that if psychedelics where legal for 18s and up and marijuana and MDMA were legal for 21s and up, alcohol and tobbacco would still be available but slowley and surley meets a dimise that america would be on the fast track to straghtining out all of the problems that it has. This country needs to get off its ass and address these problems.

[ugh im to lazy to fix typos im going to sleep lol]

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

This CONTROL shit isn't only restricted to USA. The whole world have some kind of unbelievably laws bout drugs! If laws are elected you can't argue with cop! Only if he is younger then you or maybe 'narco'- corrupted cop!
MJ. is drug which should be equal as alcohol not something hellish!
MDMA and LDS I would not put in socially excepted drug- BRAIN DAMAGE AND ADDICTION!!!

 

[random]

..marijuana while not as bad as tobbacco is not 'as good' as psychedelics. Even if being used for psychonautic research, it can still cause some problems, dont get me wrong im not trasshing Marry Jane, but im just saying it has the most potential for abuse if legalized, altho ide rather see MJ being smoked everywhere instead of TB.

Well, I think your point of view is a bit "selfish". Cannabis can be as good as "Psychedelics" (Cannabis can be a Psychedelic in some way), or even better. Depends on witch context you use it. I mean, If you'r thinking of the usefulness of Cannabis only as a "Drug" (get loaded, be creative, thinking, ....), well probably Cannabis is not as good as "Psychedelics".
But Cannabis is much more than that. And that's the main problem. The lack of information about the Golden use of Cannabis! And people, even those that are informated, seem to take this issue not to seriously. I mean Cannabis can be used, not only as a boundary dissolution and all that magic we know, but as well as a producer of much better paper quality, fiber, food, fuel, medicine, helps reverting the greenhouse effect and probably among many other uses, if the policys and governments let legal researchs take place about this Golden herb.

MDMA and LDS I would not put in socially excepted drug- BRAIN DAMAGE AND ADDICTION!!!

From what I know (read and listen), there are no proofs, at least about LSD (I think you mention that), that causes any brain damage or "brain cells burner drug" as you said on another post. But if I'm wrong, would like to see a proof

Regards