Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Psycore a dit:Sai che Lophophora sia?
BlindFaith a dit:ECHINOCEREUS triglochidiatus
ho sentito che anche il secondo è valido...qualcuno l'ha mai coltivato/sperimentato? :unibrow:
Preso da "Cactus Chemistry By Species 2014" di TroutEchinocereus triglochidiatus has been listed as containing 5-Me- thoxy-N,N-dimethylhistamine but there is no basis for that assertion. (This compound was nowhere mentioned in the reference cited: i.e. Bye 1979. It does not appear to have ever been reported in nature.)
This species has also had a report of 5-Methoxy-N,N-dimethyl- tryptamine or what was suspected to be 5-MeO-DMT (first mentioned as a possibility in Bye 1979, citing personal communication with JL McLaughlin, and later repeated as fact many other places.) Schultes & Hofmann 1979 & 1980 also mentioned the possibility that a tryptamine derivative may have been observed.
In some retellings the identity was inexplicably recreated as DMT. This was never proven. More importantly, Ferrigni et al. made a comment that whatever indole(s) they observed was present in trace amounts and was unstable in their extraction procedure. Unknown(s) were suspected of being indolic due to reacting with Ehrlichs reagent and forming a blue chromophore in TLC.
Had unknown been DMT or 5-MeO-DMT, they would have been both stable and easily been recovered using their approach so, whatever the identity of their unidentified compound(s) turns out to be, it was decidedly NEITHER 5-MeO-DMT NOR DMT. They determined the main alkaloid present was dimethylhistamine.
Some imidazoles are reactive with Ehrlichs reagent but Dimethylhis- tamine is not, suggesting that more investigation might be warranted.
To risk adding more confusion to the issue the plants being discussed are actually E. coccineus (tetraploid), var. paucispinus & var. gur- neyii, and not E. triglochidiatus (which is diploid) This is also true for part of neomexicanus, but I do not know which Ferrigni used.
Danyezlon88 a dit:Scusate la curiosità.. anche io vorrei provare la mescalina.. dove posso trovarla? oppure dove potrei ricavare le piante per estrarla e come si estrae? grazie
Danyezlon88 a dit:ho scritto su questa discussione proprio per informarmi di più quindi non c'è bisogno che mi informo altrove perchè in questo forum si parla proprio di questo no? e allora invece di ricevere risposte rapide e vaghe.. perchè qualcuno non mi spiega come ottenerla?