the only way

[druglessdouglas]

the only way i have discovered in 20 years of taking mushrooms to make them stronger is to take more nushrooms.

i have taken at least 1500 trips. almost all over 10 grams of dried mushrooms
many over 50 grams of dried mushrooms.
several over 80 grams.at least once OVER 100 grams
thats mexican mushrooms, thai, hawaiian and Psilocybe semilanceata

lemon juice makes psilocin/psilocybin more water soluble but it acidifies the urine so it isnt reabsorbed by the bladder and you pee it out more quickly.
this is a fact. ascorbic acid is used for this purpose in emergency rooms and psychiatric hospitals to treat overdoses

i do not encourage anyone not ready to go for a big dose.

if you cannot handle or get positive results from them leave them alone. some people with latent mental illness WILL end up in hospital if they mushrooms.
its a sad truth that 1 in 4 will suffer some kind of mental health problem at some time in their life.

if you are worried that may be you then leave mushrooms alone, they are not for you. you have nothing to prove and what you learn from mushrooms will not be usefull. find something that agrees with you

i realise many of you are young and/or inexperienced and have read books telling all about the wonders of psychadelics. they are only books
reality has far more sharp edges to it. forget the books and listen to people who have a realistic knowledge of psychadelics. Uncle Terry and Timmothy Leary and Ken Kesey are cool. i like them, but what they dont and cant tell you is the reality of having your mind slammed open.

dont fool yourselves. get real. no offence but ive seen my friends being sectioned, psychotic, one of my best friends burned himself to death with petrol and polythene bags after a psychotic break on mushrooms.

if you are truely interested in exploring your mind through mushrooms then do it right. make the effort to find the right SETTING. dont do them in a bedroom next to your parents, or a hotel room in a foreign city.
what are you going to learn? all about the fear of flushing the toilet too loud
or being discovered by a maid.

make plans. get on a bus. go to a quiet place, a beach, the hills, the forrest.make a night of it, light a fire, wander about, laugh, cry sing and scream SET and SETTING. SETTING!!!!

set and setting

 

[GOD]

Well said . Me 2 .

 

[druglessdouglas]

no one is listening

 

[Lion]

100 grams dried.
that's nuts. hard to believe too.

 

[mysticwarrior]

How was the trip on 100grams? Was it different then those trips on 50 grams? Sorry, you made me curious.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

And incredibly hard on the stomach I imagine. I had 5 grams last night, which I still think is a satisfactory dose. Mystical, magical, absurd and hilarious. But a terrible belly ache around midnight. As far as I'm concerned 5 grams is enough!

 

[druglessdouglas]

100 grams dried.
that's nuts. hard to believe too.

i didnt say i wanted to do it again
ive done 80g a couple of dozen times. the physical discomfort doesnt get worse at high doses. the mental effects take over completely.

i think everyone is missing my point

 

[druglessdouglas]

And incredibly hard on the stomach I imagine. I had 5 grams last night, which I still think is a satisfactory dose. Mystical, magical, absurd and hilarious. But a terrible belly ache around midnight. As far as I'm concerned 5 grams is enough!

try eating ginger for your stomach. candied / crystalised or in syrop. it gives you rushes and settles the stomach. if you like ginger

 

[BrainEater]

well there's a thing which i am also not sure about concerning mushrooms.

i heard that it DOES make a difference WHAT mushrooms you eat.

by that i mean that each mushroom is different in potency and therefore there can be mushrooms with lower psychoactive potency than others and there even can be mushrooms with no potency at all ?????????

i agree that at high doses the "mental effects" take over. though the biggest mistake one could make is that he/she would think that this would make the trip "easy to take".

you for sure got my respect for taking such a heroic dose


PEACE :weedman:

 

[druglessdouglas]

your right, i give up. ill never mention mushrooms again

in fact ill stay off this section because ive nothing to contribute

 

[GOD]

Dont do it Drugless . I know you are right . All this uncle terry heroic dose bullshit gets up my nose . The site is full unexperienced of kids talking crap . As Braineater says it makes a difference what mushrooms one eats . Thats why i didnt like takeing cubensis , because it was to much to digest . Thats why i say grow P:Cyanescens because they are much stronger , they are easyer to grow and you dont need to do any sterile work at all . I`ve left spore prints of them on top of my fridge for a year , open , and every time i walked past and coughed i coughed on them . I spat on them to . They grew and didnt have any contamination problems . Because only wood loving fungus grows on wood and when P.Cy grows nothing can keep up with it .

Keep telling people about your thoughts and your experience . One day they might wake up .

This wasnt aimed personaly at anyone , i dont want to belittle anyones trips or experience . I just want to say there is another side to it and not just the uncle terry romantic , fat , middle class american heroic dose shit .

Stop talking and get the fuckers down your necks .

Lion stop moaning and say something positive and/or helpfull .

 

[BrainEater]

your right, i give up. ill never mention mushrooms again

in fact ill stay off this section because ive nothing to contribute

didn't mean it like that at all lol ... nice missunderstanding...

in my opinion you'd probably have more to contribute in that section than anybody else.


peace.

 

[Psychoid]

in fact ill stay off this section because ive nothing to contribute

Don't... ! I, like many others I presume, want to learn. And we need experienced people like you to help guiding us! I am listening to your advices, and I hope others too. For example, I am not going to trip again "in a bedroom next to your parents", unless they know and agree about it.

You say people aren't listening... well I think the problem is that your title and the beginning of your post have little connection to your main point... Or maybe I misunderstood you as well...

But please don't leave the mushrooms section, you have A LOT to contribute... You haven't been on this forum for a long time, but you've already earned my respect.

 

[GOD]

Yes my respect to . Youve not been here long but youve already contributed more facts , experience and sensible posts than most of the other people here . Just because a lot ofpeople dont reply doesnt mean that they arent reading what you say and doesnt mean that they arent thinking about it . They just dont know what to say and are waiting to se what others say and what happens .

Keep telling people the things you think . I know most of what you and i say is "perls to swine" but i dont give a shit . If no one says it they will never wake up and stay pokeing around in the dark . I remember when i got slagged off for telling them to eat between 10 and 50 gramms of hash . They soon shut up with their 1/4 of a gram homeopathetic doses when i pointed them at Boudelairs(?) work .

 

[Psychoid]

Keep telling people the things you think . I know most of what you and i say is "perls to swine" but i dont give a shit . If no one says it they will never wake up and stay pokeing around in the dark .

+2000

Boudelairs(?)

Did you mean Baudelaire?

 

[GOD]

OOps !!! Yes . Did i just verbaly shit in french ears ? Sorry .

 

[druglessdouglas]

well the silly season is almost upon us so you will be hearing from me again, only it wont make any sense. get yer wellys on

 

[silv]

I don't know man, I thought 5 gs of shrooms was heavy enough already. I'll see when I start dosing higher than that, but so far 5gs sort of freaked me out, so I'll have to have more experience in dealing with the effects before I'll go further. What I noticed is you have to naturally blend in with your environment, for me it was perfect that I could curl up in my own bed and take a shower when I felt I needed that. I really find comfort in my home, because I know this place and I'll be able to fully concentrate on my experience.
So yeah, don't leave this section. with that much experience you'll definitely be able to contribute in a positive way!

 

[druglessdouglas]

I don't know man, I thought 5 gs of shrooms was heavy enough already. I'll see when I start dosing higher than that, but so far 5gs sort of freaked me out, so I'll have to have more experience in dealing with the effects before I'll go further. What I noticed is you have to naturally blend in with your environment, for me it was perfect that I could curl up in my own bed and take a shower when I felt I needed that. I really find comfort in my home, because I know this place and I'll be able to fully concentrate on my experience.
So yeah, don't leave this section. with that much experience you'll definitely be able to contribute in a positive way!

if you feel comfortable tripping at home then its the right place. the idea is not to feel oppressed or restricted. im not making rules its just sound advice. if you arent entirely free at home then go somewhere you are. how you feel about a place changes hugely when your tripping, much of it is to do with memory triggers you are not aware of.

 

[st.bot.32]

Agreed with what you said entirely. Psychedelics can be useful tools, can be beautiful and fun but they aren't a magic cure-all. I've known people also who have been affected for the worse--bad set and setting, predisposition to mental illness, should never have taken what they did. It is very rare, but does happen.

Also everyone has a different threshold, which varies from person to person, from day to day depending on your metabolism, and varies by user experience.

In my experience so far, what I get out of a trip depends far more on how I've readied myself and what I bring into it, and less on the dose (within reason) anyways.

...

and yes agreed, a great read:
http://users.lycaeum.org/~sputnik/Ludlow/Texts/Rats/poem.html