Terrorist GOD

[restin]

but that's the whole point. He wanted to shock you so you begin to realize how your view on role models etc. is. It was a "test" and actually you all failed. You started screaming around how bad GOD was and that kinda proved that your relation to him is not flawless. I enjoyed this thread and maybe you could learn something yourself. I am not flawless either but when someone shows me a mirror I try to learn instead of looking away.

 

[mysticwarrior]

It was a "test" and actually you all failed.

The poor guy :? I feel almost sorry for him. Testing others for what? Why? To ridicule and show others how ignorant people can be? Come on, that says a lot about GOD instead of CM or the others who are tired of GOD's preaching. Again, i feel very sorry for him!

 

[Brugmansia]

Do GOD's supposed experiences of ego death give him the right to constantly bash Terence McKenna

If [YOU] can identify with Terence, does it really matter if another member rejects him with strong outspoken views?

I agree that a less severe approach and formulation of GOD would be way more effective in trying to get across what he meant with over adoration of McKenna.

However, you can interpret his messages also as a potent wakeful reminder to always remain your own self and just [let go] and forget all the written templates of anyone within the entheogenic society. Creating your own matrix, exactly fitting with your own identity and environmental surroundings without even a non-autonomous dot copied.

Many individuals don't even notice they were partly pulled out of their own seat because of adopting too much language codes of various respected psychedelic trailblazers.

As for GOD's behaviour, we're dealing here with substances which do have strong mental modifications and tend to rip every thought into a thousand pieces. He's been into this for quite a long time it seems, he may be indeed explicit vulgar, it may be compensating an internal discontent but he's fully sane if you ask me.

By the time one has passed the age of 50 he'll know for sure whether or not he really wanted to live life in this detailed transparant web.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Shocking us, testing us...

This has nothing to do with holding up a mirror. If it's anything, it's forcing others to look into a mirror, or rather to be exposed in a certain way, which is exactly what flaming is all about.

 

[st.bot.32]

Many individuals don't even notice they were partly pulled out of their own seat because of adopting too much language codes of various respected psychedelic trailblazers.

Exactly!.. ..and this IMO is the beginnings of religion. Personally, I'm a big fan of a little heresy now and then, it keeps me on my toes

 

[restin]

This has nothing to do with holding up a mirror. If it's anything, it's forcing others to look into a mirror, or rather to be exposed in a certain way, which is exactly what flaming is all about.

no, you don't really believe that. Yes, it's forcing but we all need that sometimes. Flaming is not about holding up mirrors. Flaming is about pointless bashing.

The poor guy :? I feel almost sorry for him. Testing others for what? Why? To ridicule and show others how ignorant people can be? Come on, that says a lot about GOD instead of CM or the others who are tired of GOD's preaching. Again, i feel very sorry for him!

No need to be getting sarcastic.

You are not the one who is now writing. Get a step back, relax and watch the situation. You are doing the same with me now - splitting hairs and going into details. You all know what I meant with "test".

 

[Dantediv86]

let's face it...we all need a person to be the obnoxious bastard in a group, or the goof, or the person who goes "against"

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

If [YOU] can identify with Terence, does it really matter if another member rejects him with strong outspoken views?

If that was all he did, probably not, but Terence McKenna is just one of his many pet peeves.

I agree that a less severe approach and formulation of GOD would be way more effective

Exactly. It would also be more conducive to an open exchange of ideas around here.

However, you can interpret his messages also as a potent wakeful reminder to always remain your own self and just [let go] and forget all the written templates of anyone within the entheogenic society.

People who have undergone numerous psychedelic experiences, studied them and assisted others in their journeys, and whose insights have been published and appreciated by other scholars, I'd rather not forget all they have written. There's extremely valuable information there. Why invent the wheel all over again?

Creating your own matrix, exactly fitting with your own identity and environmental surroundings without even a non-autonomous dot copied.

Psychedelics can help you achieve that. You didn't achieve it by the grace of GOD. You found that path yourself.

Many individuals don't even notice they were partly pulled out of their own seat because of adopting too much language codes of various respected psychedelic trailblazers.

I agree. But it will come naturally. I stopped listening to Terence McKenna lectures when I had heard all of them a couple of times, and then moved on to other authors. This has happened to many of us, with no need for GOD's "mirror".

As for GOD's behaviour, we're dealing here with substances which do have strong mental modifications and tend to rip every thought into a thousand pieces.

So he should have faith in the gradual process others are going through.

He's been into this for quite a long time it seems

There's more to it than doing it for a long time, or frequently, or at high dosages.

but he's fully sane if you ask me.

I don't think it's a matter of sanity or insanity. I don't consider a person with emotional problems and intellectual misgivings insane, but in need of help.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

let's face it...we all need a person to be the obnoxious bastard in a group, or the goof, or the person who goes "against"

I have no problem with anyone going against anything, if the person has good arguments and presents them in a convincing and friendly way, and is willing to be challenged in return, and listen to what others have to say, and admit one was ignorant or mistaken. Like st.bot.32 said, a little heresy now and then can be a good thing. I recently pointed out that the methodology and certain conclusions presented in Rick Strassman's "DMT, the Spirit Molecule" are flawed. But I didn't see the need to ridicule anyone for appreciating the book or the author. Instead I explained why exactly I don't like the book and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

no, you don't really believe that.

I "don't really believe that"?!

Yes, it's forcing but we all need that sometimes.

No, we don't. Why do you think we need to be forced?

Flaming is not about holding up mirrors. Flaming is about pointless bashing.

This is what the Wikipedia has to say about flaming: "Sometimes, flamers attempt to assert their authority, or establish a position of superiority over other users." Now how are you going to hold up a mirror, week after week, unless you feel superior to others? How can you be so sure your mirror accurately reflects things, unless you consider yourself flawless?

 

[ochho]

You guys are taking this too far.. and way too seriously.

You would think that on a forum dedicated to mind and consciousness expansion, we wouldn't see this kind of useless drama..

Lighten up, it's not worth the effort if you ask me..

P.L.U.R

 

[greenwizard]

I didn't follow the progress of this post, but what I have too say is opinion values ideas, not everyone can agree, I think GOD makes clear and smart points, even they can be sarcastic and moccing, he has his reasons.


I'm impressed that we have 5 pages of argument about this.

 

[Arcticpheonix]

You guys are taking this too far.. and way too seriously.

You would think that on a forum dedicated to mind and consciousness expansion, we wouldn't see this kind of useless drama..

Lighten up, it's not worth the effort if you ask me..

P.L.U.R

+1000

I'm afraid this has moved from a discussion into a flame war guys. We're not all going to agree with each other. It's just not going to happen. To be honest though, it's that diversity that holds a forum like this together.

So yeah, bottom line: Show a little P.L.U.R. okay?

 

[Mycophile]

You guys are taking this too far.. and way too seriously.

You would think that on a forum dedicated to mind and consciousness expansion, we wouldn't see this kind of useless drama..

Lighten up, it's not worth the effort if you ask me..

P.L.U.R

+1000

Again + 1000

Why is everybody so upset? Turn your other cheek or something. There are people here now who are seriously frustrated. Spending hours a day on Psychonaut and then get frustrated? That's just not worth it...

 

[Dantediv86]

What on earth does P.L.U.R. mean????

 

[Icelus]

Peace, Love, Unity and Respect! :lol:

 

[IJesusChrist]

I'm trying to retrace my tracers.

"I'm suprised we have 5 pages of this"

1+

Alot of us on here, specifically a few, seem to get on here to just try and make themselves right, even if it has nothing to do with the topic.

Which I really don't care if you do or not, just means I skim over your posts more. :?

 

[Space-is-the-Place]

I'm voting to close this topic and for the people who want to resume this prayer without and end there will be the Mutual respect topic

 

[mysticwarrior]

I'm voting to close this topic and for the people who want to resume this prayer without and end there will be the Mutual respect topic

That would probably be the right thing to do

But not before i repeated this quote:

Peace, Love, Unity and Respect! Laughing

In the end, this is what we all want, right?

Greets,
Mystic :heart:

 

[restin]

Alot of us on here, specifically a few, seem to get on here to just try and make themselves right, even if it has nothing to do with the topic.

then what about your discussion with Mr. Smith?

I somehow agree with Space but I fear that if we leave things unsaid the grudge will remain.

 

[st.bot.32]

Nobody's perfect, I think we've all had our spats here from time to time, right or wrong or neither

I fear that if we leave things unsaid the grudge

Understandable... but these same things are being said in the other thread..

the grudge

That's what this thread really is about..

If you took those god references out of this thread, it's really the same idea as the mutual respect thread. I think continuing the conversation there is moving forward instead of picking at a wound so to speak, and it's not even censorship, it's more just keeping things constructive and focused