Symbology of a dream
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I really liked the cosmic serpent book, although it has been 6 years since I read it.
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restin a dit:
Hmmm i think so, but since i have a bad day.....
And the worst thing that i do realise on such moments, is that i realise that i can be so ignorant to 
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restin a dit:
Thanx
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Wank? Hmmmm, maybe that will work
Anyway, forgot about what i said
how did the apostle feel about being released? not that it probably matters, just curious
..I don't know enough psychology to form a proper theory, so my guess would be (like others have said) that your the best one to interpret the dream, I would have guessed it still might have religious significance despite you not being subjected to that stuff as much - the symbolism of the serpent still makes its way into all corners of western culture. but constriction is synonymous with restriction, narrowing of options (and by extension "vice" in a religiously tinged moral sense?).
Ofcourse, its perfectly possible thats all nonsense, and it was just random imagery
I remember one dream that I had years ago reccurring when I was 7-8 years old - repeating dozens of times:
I would walk through my schools back playground, past my friends that were all fighting sea creatures (all on dry land) - giant octopi, fish, gigantic crabs etc.
I then walked round to the front playground to find cartoon whale waiting for me!
The whale would try to eat me, and I would jump out of the way (I could jump inhumanly far in the dream) - this was a lucid dream of sorts, so I could control where I jumped. when the whale finally ate me, I would awake with shock.
Always wondered what that was all about - sure it was kinda fun, but pretty scary, and unpleasent being eaten, even in a dream.
..I don't know enough psychology to form a proper theory, so my guess would be (like others have said) that your the best one to interpret the dream, I would have guessed it still might have religious significance despite you not being subjected to that stuff as much - the symbolism of the serpent still makes its way into all corners of western culture. but constriction is synonymous with restriction, narrowing of options (and by extension "vice" in a religiously tinged moral sense?).
Ofcourse, its perfectly possible thats all nonsense, and it was just random imagery
I remember one dream that I had years ago reccurring when I was 7-8 years old - repeating dozens of times:
I would walk through my schools back playground, past my friends that were all fighting sea creatures (all on dry land) - giant octopi, fish, gigantic crabs etc.
I then walked round to the front playground to find cartoon whale waiting for me!
The whale would try to eat me, and I would jump out of the way (I could jump inhumanly far in the dream) - this was a lucid dream of sorts, so I could control where I jumped. when the whale finally ate me, I would awake with shock.
Always wondered what that was all about - sure it was kinda fun, but pretty scary, and unpleasent being eaten, even in a dream.
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Pariah a dit:how did the apostle feel about being released? not that it probably matters, just curious
Relaxed. Total submission to freedom. A bit like about 10 seconds after the DMT hits in (if that makes it any clearer).
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I would love to hear a explanation for especially snakes in dreams and psychedelics trips. But i have doubts that there is a theory for it.
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just to give it a shot(for a 3rd time b/c kept getting error msg's and losing my text!) just to keep it short, the apostle in your dream could possibly represent you or an aspect of yourself being set free in some manner, considering the snake, haveing both negative and positive aspects, as in your dream it was "releasing its grip", now in my own personal experinece in dreams/symbolism, i have ran accross the world snake oddly enough in a negative manner, in my dreams representing itselft holding a grip on my root chakra meaning fear, and something holding me back from moving forward.
so in conclusion "possibly" just mabye like agove, you are currently or mabye soon in the future going to be released from something negative which could be an huge aray of things, or something holding you back.
hope it helps :wink:
so in conclusion "possibly" just mabye like agove, you are currently or mabye soon in the future going to be released from something negative which could be an huge aray of things, or something holding you back.
hope it helps :wink:
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???????? a dit:
Good question, could someone clear that up?
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Because the snake resembles our DNA, and all living things around us share the same kind of DNA strings. Those strings are also commonly depicted as 2 intertwined snakes... Well it's difficult to explain, just read his book. :wink:
Psychonaut filmed Narby in Switzerland last year BTW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI9lzBIS ... annel_page
Psychonaut filmed Narby in Switzerland last year BTW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI9lzBIS ... annel_page
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Symbols like that are called "UR symbolen" in German = original symbols . Meaning that before humans could think in words they thought in images . Images that fited the situation that they were in and what was happening around them . Snakes were a problem for primates long before they were anything resembleing us . Snakes were a problem because 1. Some were poisonous and some werent . 2. Even some of those that werent poisonous were dangerous as in the case of pythons . 3. That some snakes can swim and attack animals as they were drinking . 4. Plus unlike lions or other land / ground based animals they could silently climb trees or just drop out of them on unsuspecting animals .
The idea that the fear of snakes and / or the negative symbolism asociated with snakes / snake images has something to do with DNA is to say the least not clever . The human race has only recently become aware of DNA and DNA doesnt resemble a snake . It does resemble a zip and the knowledge of zips is older than the knowledge of DNA . Plus animals dont know anything about DNA and if they get shown a picture of a snake they shit themselves .
I wonder what Wotsit will say to that ? He usualy has a lot to say about DNA and holographic fantasy storys .
The idea that the fear of snakes and / or the negative symbolism asociated with snakes / snake images has something to do with DNA is to say the least not clever . The human race has only recently become aware of DNA and DNA doesnt resemble a snake . It does resemble a zip and the knowledge of zips is older than the knowledge of DNA . Plus animals dont know anything about DNA and if they get shown a picture of a snake they shit themselves .
I wonder what Wotsit will say to that ? He usualy has a lot to say about DNA and holographic fantasy storys .
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Insha'Allah .
CNN just reported that a very old snake vertibrae has been found wich must have belonged to a snake as big as a bus .
http://www.extremescience.com/BiggestSnake.htm
http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02/04/ ... 423161.php
CNN just reported that a very old snake vertibrae has been found wich must have belonged to a snake as big as a bus .
http://www.extremescience.com/BiggestSnake.htm
http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/02/04/ ... 423161.php
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But i still don't understand, why so many people do see snakes while there dreaming or tripping. Alright, maybe snakes resembles our dna. What GOD tells, alright maybe it's because we fear snakes. But as long as i can remember, i never did care about snakes, i never did pay any attention to such kind of animals. But then suddenly while i am tripping on mushrooms, those snakes pop up in a way, that i can't say that it is nonsense.
I really break my brains on this I mean there has to be explanation, why people see those snakes and his something to do with prehistoric times... Last night i read a trip report from someone who had used datura, and everywhere where he looked he saw snakes. I have read more of such reports, and especially the delirium ones, also contain worms.....
I really break my brains on this
I mean there has to be explanation, why people see those snakes and his something to do with prehistoric times... Last night i read a trip report from someone who had used datura, and everywhere where he looked he saw snakes. I have read more of such reports, and especially the delirium ones, also contain worms.....
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Its an Ur symbol thats embeded in the roots of our psyche . Why do babys instinctively seek and find tits so that they can drink milk ? How do cangaroo babys know that they have to crawl upwards and find their mothers pocket so that they can bee warmed and suck a tit ?
Its instinct . The info is probably embeded in our DNA .
BUT..... DNA isnt the only way to pass info on to future generations that isnt handed down from mouth to mouth . That was proved when a single town in finland had a famine . All the kids that were there grew up much smaller than their parents and much smaller than all the rest of the population of finland . Then their kids were of normal size and weight because they had enough to eat . But their kids were the same size and weight as their grand parents . That means that information was passed on to the grand children and it didnt come from the DNA as it takes at least 6 generations to program DNA .
Its instinct . The info is probably embeded in our DNA .
BUT..... DNA isnt the only way to pass info on to future generations that isnt handed down from mouth to mouth . That was proved when a single town in finland had a famine . All the kids that were there grew up much smaller than their parents and much smaller than all the rest of the population of finland . Then their kids were of normal size and weight because they had enough to eat . But their kids were the same size and weight as their grand parents . That means that information was passed on to the grand children and it didnt come from the DNA as it takes at least 6 generations to program DNA .
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And you can crash 6 generation's worth of good DNA with a few drugs in a few years ; gene expression changes in enzymes eventually cause DNA-RNA transfer degeneration. For example if you have a child after having been high on meth for years, even if you don't consume for the time of the pregnancy, your child will have dopamine related attention problems; its a very complex matter.
You are both right in a way, but I see it more deep than that, the DNA is the coiled snake brain ; the spring, the golden mean spiral.
We have a reptile brain, a kind of birdish brain, and a neocortex.
This is also reflected in the way old cultures refer to how non human souls make everything that you see alive.
Tell a native shaman that a table is dead he will laugh at you and think you are crazy. He would tell you that it is filled with serpant souls.
Serpant souls not only hold things together in a linear way, our meridians of energy also look like snakes in our body.
Angelic or "maria" souls are known to be those who modify DNA...
Dragon souls are what steers the wormhole of our manifestation.
This is all very old knowledge, the serpant is the worm, the spice is the worm, the worm is the spice.
Follow the snake, to the lake, the ancient lake, it's loooong, 7 miles.
The snake eats his tail and is the symbol of self-realised knowledge, it is the donut of 7 colors, 7 musical notes, 7 main chakras.
7 is even a number that is symbolic of the serpant on the cross.
The serpant is the kundhalini or sexual drive, horizontal drive being primitive, and "grasping the serpant" in "straight" cross with the 4 elements etc etc...
It's fun I can finally talk like this... why is is so important ? Because it's one of the first archetypes layers in holographic knowledge ; it's also an arch-angle ; called Lucifer.
You will understand how these archetypes shuffle with some practice, Lucifer is the serpant yet it is the wigned serpant, it's non wigner brother is Yahlweah or Enlil(ea) ; whom is the vengeful god.
Here is a famous flamel drawing that represents the unification of the 4 elements and the sexual energy feeding higher evolutionary goals.
Here is a quite simplistic but concise representation of the serpant as 7.
And here is a very profound picture linking the amanita as the water bearer , the grapes, cannabis and the golden snake as opposition or motivating force to push towards ascension.
Am I going too fast ?
You are both right in a way, but I see it more deep than that, the DNA is the coiled snake brain ; the spring, the golden mean spiral.
We have a reptile brain, a kind of birdish brain, and a neocortex.
This is also reflected in the way old cultures refer to how non human souls make everything that you see alive.
Tell a native shaman that a table is dead he will laugh at you and think you are crazy. He would tell you that it is filled with serpant souls.
Serpant souls not only hold things together in a linear way, our meridians of energy also look like snakes in our body.
Angelic or "maria" souls are known to be those who modify DNA...
Dragon souls are what steers the wormhole of our manifestation.
This is all very old knowledge, the serpant is the worm, the spice is the worm, the worm is the spice.
Follow the snake, to the lake, the ancient lake, it's loooong, 7 miles.
The snake eats his tail and is the symbol of self-realised knowledge, it is the donut of 7 colors, 7 musical notes, 7 main chakras.
7 is even a number that is symbolic of the serpant on the cross.
The serpant is the kundhalini or sexual drive, horizontal drive being primitive, and "grasping the serpant" in "straight" cross with the 4 elements etc etc...
It's fun I can finally talk like this... why is is so important ? Because it's one of the first archetypes layers in holographic knowledge ; it's also an arch-angle ; called Lucifer.
You will understand how these archetypes shuffle with some practice, Lucifer is the serpant yet it is the wigned serpant, it's non wigner brother is Yahlweah or Enlil(ea) ; whom is the vengeful god.
Here is a famous flamel drawing that represents the unification of the 4 elements and the sexual energy feeding higher evolutionary goals.
Here is a quite simplistic but concise representation of the serpant as 7.
And here is a very profound picture linking the amanita as the water bearer , the grapes, cannabis and the golden snake as opposition or motivating force to push towards ascension.
Am I going too fast ?
