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Yes of course I deny it !

I always proof read my posts before posting them, 4 times as long ?! I think I would have noticed, and the post would say "edited" with the time, right ?

I very rarely edit my posts, if I do it's because I notice obvious typos that could induce error or give a dead-end to a search. I even leave most of them...

If you are right and I truely wrote in a kind of unconscious state and edited, and then the memory was erased from me somehow... then I don't know what to say.

Do you remember what I said ? Because I can most likely tell if it's my type to say such things, I never have held back once up to now, thats why I wrote that I'd like to be warned instead of banned that other time.

Now it seems it's not between me and you, it looks more like it's between CM and you ; you're right it does look bad ; but life is not all beautiful now is it. Even if CM wasn't perfectly happy, I wouldn't mind, Douglas dosen't seem to me like an insider to those insights either ; mirror mirror ?
 
Ahuaeynjxs a dit:
Well Mystic... since you are my elder I am not going to give you advice, although I know exactly what is the problem, the therapist is part of it, the porn is as well in the same way.
I know the porn is. But the therapist?!? How so?
It's physiological in my opinion. But if I would state my opinion I would prabaly make alot of people here realise they have the same problem, which they seem ready to kill to prove it's not a problem.
I'd be interested to read what you think, the more perspectives to understand this, the better. Why do you think it is physiological? What is the problem precisely?
 
^Don't get him started.
 
maybe you are just a person with a weaker libido, mythic? Do you personally think that you need change, that it is a problem?
 
Adultery is to share in three what is meant for two. Comprehension of deep feelings facing sexuality is such a thing that can be shared. This is not literal dogma, because it is not physical actions that determine it, it is all imaginary. I'm not saying that you should stop seeing a therapist if you feel it is helping, but sooner or later as your girlfriend becomes aware of the changes I bring forth she will feel the sacredness of your relation slip slowly, in the spiritual imagination, noone can help you but yourself.

I cannot judge your mind, but since you are realising you are handsome for her, and you seem to be ready to be honest for her and "yell your love", then I will assume you feel more for her than you ever felt for any woman, your soul is considering marriage so to speak, you become the adult.

This might seem very strange the way I speak to you, because there is no proper way to express what I am trying to communicate, and it is a very complex matter which would require that you read some of what others call "esoteric bullshit" I have posted on the boards. But I'm not going to force that down your throat...

To keep it simple there are many ways to have a trance, people have them to varying depth, and some people are physiologically capable of having deeper trance (in the beta and alpha range) that are related to melatonin-serotonin-pinoline-5-meo-dmt and DMT chain.

You walk in the street you have an infinite array of people experiencing different trances, people call this seeing the world differently, to me it is not mystic, endocrynology clears that up for us.

I could delve in the exact processes of histamine-glutamate and adrenaline-acetylcholine mechanisms involved in your "shame" reaction but I don't think that is going to help much for the beginning of your exploration ; if you face dead ends later on then we could discuss those subjects.

What happens is that our bodies communicate chemically with pheromones, and when she is hot for you, you smell those, and your body answers with your own pheromones, and if only for one moment you consider the joining, then your bodies also open fully to each other's "light communication" these are supraluminal frequencies that only the DNA can interpret and include such concepts as forgiveness, compassion, friendship and passion.

So in essence you feel a difference between your trance capacity and hers, your mind interprets it as shame, but it is not so.

To work through this you will have to standardize both your lifestyles, get on a sexually active diet (very complex) and encourage both your bodies to reach a state of complicity. You also do not like oral sex for the same reason, because you taste those subtle differences and that only reinforces your body's response.

By the way you describe her she is a very hot woman (probably geared on light dopamine transe) and you seem to be a very sensitive and quiet man. (geared more on melatonin transe)

She will need to take up chi-gong practice and understand the mechanism of the 7-level orgasmic transe, then modify her nutrition and habits accordingly ; not every woman is ready to do this and this is why you, and everyone here feels aprehension about what I am saying.

If you are interested I can tell you how this can be achieved, your capacity for morning erections is a good sign you are ready to take on higher chi-gong practice ; your incapacity to tolerate oral sex without feeling the urge to orgasm is a sign that either she is not aware that she must not stimulate certain regions of your penis too much, or that your erection is not yet powered up.

An erection assisted by chi-gong practice stands up in the one o clock position on the dial, and the penile erection extends deep INTO the pubis, both branches of the cavernosa mave a V that support the hard penis from inside the groins. When the penis is so hard, the reflection nerves switch from the prostate to the tailbone, and the penis becomes half numb ; you do not feel the sexual pleasure in the same way, it is a trance and much more pleasurable, not many people have experiences this so do not blame yourself for not knowing.

What most people (95% without exagerating) call great sex is in fact the first stages of what is achievable that create true communion of the souls. I will stop for now, if you are willing to explore this venue, I will post the very consise techniques for everyone to study.
 
Ahuaeynjxs a dit:
An erection assisted by chi-gong practice stands up in the one o clock position on the dial, and the penile erection extends deep INTO the pubis, both branches of the cavernosa mave a V that support the hard penis from inside the groins.
The penis is quite a lengthy organ, isn't it? :wink:
 
Haha indeed. What I think is good news is that people who have never did any techniques to grow this organ can gain anywhere from 2-4 inches by simply using herb and the very simple penile balooning technique which consists of simply stopping masturbating and massaging the erections to fullness by massaging said V from inside the groins and pushing the blood to the penis.

Care must be taken not to massage between the V during erection , but this region (between anus and penis) should be massaged after the erection to spread the "chi" or energized electrolytes that is trapped there.

Also the massage can be applied along the shaft on both sides taking care not to touch the underside of the penis, nor anywhere near the glans, where the foreskin "ring" is situated when you stretch the skin, since there are lots of very sensitive nerves in there, they shouldn't be rubbed.

This combined with herbs known to enhance erections can effectively help the penis grow in matter of months ; herbs like Yohimbe, horny goat weed, tongkat ali, etc...

Thats why the belly of the man who can maintain such an erection looks pregnant, because not only the penis, but also the pubis from inside gorges with blood thats pushed down with the belly muscles pushing out, it's in this region the "bioelectricity" is created, thats why it's also the power center in eastern tradition, or "dan-tien" *sp?*, lower belly.

On a more funny note I had a funny picture pop in mind of what the true "water bearer" must look like : with the water bucket suspended on his very firm penis, dancing like the techno-vicking !

:lol: *rofl*
 
Okay. Thanks for putting a thorough description on it. I do have trouble understanding what you mean to say, though, because I always felt that psychology and physiology were interrelated, that physical tension and psychological stress are two sides of the same coin. Maybe I am over-analytical, but I do feel the 'problem' is more psychological than physiological. I had incredible sex with my girlfriend on nights when I was very relaxed. I had very standard sex on nights when I thought we should have sex because it has been a while. The most incredible sex I ever had was early on in the relationship. We were still very high on being in love and we had the most amazing melting of soul and body. It was all love, no carnality, just love. This memory has been etched in my mind, it is now four years ago, but still vivid.

Probably the strangest thing is that I think my girlfriend is the most beautiful human being ever to exist, while at the same time her appearance unsettles me. She has two faces and it is the most interesting thing I have ever found in a person. She can be gorgeous and she can be ugly, she can be sweet and she often lets of steam by going temporarily (minutes/hours) crazy. I am infinitely attracted and repulsed at the same time. I feel torn. Maybe this is all me and she's just what she is, but this is my experience of her. I love her to pieces.

The therapist isn't just for the sex life. He is there to help us deal with the things we have problems with. She plays the victim, learned that from her mother. I don't tell her what I feel, inherited from my father. He helps us get conscious of these things and I think it helps for the time being. I'd never think of myself doing therapy (until about a year ago), but I really like this guys approach. He aims us at our own problems instead of our problems, thereby directing us to the things we have control over or can get control over in the future.

I don't understand the V. I googled cavernosa, but I don't really understand how it works.
 
Were you born in the same country?
 
Yes. 15 kilometers and 4 months and 1 day apart. Same cultural background, too.
 
Ahuaeynjxs a dit:
To keep it simple there are many ways to have a trance, people have them to varying depth, and some people are physiologically capable of having deeper trance (in the beta and alpha range) that are related to melatonin-serotonin-pinoline-5-meo-dmt and DMT chain.

You walk in the street you have an infinite array of people experiencing different trances, people call this seeing the world differently, to me it is not mystic, endocrynology clears that up for us.

Interesting. But how do people end up in these different categories? Is it genetic? Social/Cultural? Chance? Fate?
 
I want to thank everybody, by the way, sharing all of this is really a big step in the process of healing. Thanks.
 
Yes well your description confirms what I am saying, the therapist in this case is good, but only to a certain point.

Because time spent with a third person intimately will at the same time make you realise, but at the same time create a rift in the imagination between you.

What I am saying is that your sex now should be greater than those first times ; it should build and you and especially your girlfriend should feel there is always room for a better orgasm, it should amaze her each time. And at your age you should be having it morning and night, almost everyday, but not for a long time in the morning, just to get the juices flowing, not for orgasm ; thats where the ancient chinese techniques come into the picture, for the orgasm before bedtime.

Many people for example read the kama sutra superficially, looking at the pictures and some descriptions, but it's full of deep knowledge on the "science" of sex.

The two faces you describe is a common characteristic of people who are geared on dopamine ; they can look extremely high and magnifiscient, they have up and downs, in extreme cases some people will call this maniaco-depressive, but I prefer to establish a solid sexual root, and then if it dosen't fix the problem go consult a doctor for psychological diagnosis.

This is quite complex however, but it's much simpler since you live with her ; have you told her you feel this duality about her ? If yes then perhaps you can invite her to contribute to the thread and we might learn alot from your experience.

What is accepted in society generally as a normal erection is a penis quite perpendicular to the belly, this kind of erection is the second stage, there is a third stage of erection when bioelectric power (the erectile drugs give semblance of this but have no bioelectricity and deplete cerebrospinal fluid) kicks in, the penis curves like a banana and "hugs the belly" because the cavernosa "takes root" inside the groins. Just follow the side of your penis in the groins, at one point the spongy tissue will "split" and create a V, this part is essential to erect as hard as the rest for penile "powering up" and allowing you to enjoy both oral sex and eventually with lots of practice, multiple orgasms without ejaculation until your woman is completely satisfied, and also without having to contract the prostate muscle. She will not be satisfied because she is exhausted with this technique ; she will have a surge that will feel to you like a very powerful earthquake, and she will cry out loud uncontrolably, it's so powerful it dosen't even sound like an orgasm, more like she completely lost control of hervocal cords ; and it will make you shake, you will be surprised a woman can put up all this magnitude.

The chinese technique is contrary to all thats being thought nowadays where people "hold" the ejaculation back, this is very detrimental to bioelectric potential. The chinese were very wise and understood this long time ago, well some of them at least, it's been mostly forgotten due to the complexity of attaining such a state, its different for everyone.

Yet once powered up , you are rather "enjoying the show" than concentrating on breathing and keeping from orgasming and all, it works by itself and you decide when you orgasm. It requires special nutrition, there is no miracle here.

If your girlfriend is willing to experiment with this, then I will post my suggestions for your couple. Are you sure she is ok with you sharing your experiences with us ?
 
Yes all the reasons you mention, but the most important is genetics (nutrition and lifestyle the second), some young couples attain the fabled state naturally, although it's very rare ; but I've seen it. But sadly usually they exite each other so much it's lost after a while...

Because if you make love very often with someone generating lots of dopamine-adrenalin you absorb it through the blood from intimate contact and it changes your physiology in the long run though gene expression change in enzymatic profile.

It hardly works the other way around, sadly.
 
I agree with this... but it's still full of relevant information.

And during those times the emperors died at very young ages from reproducing too much, so it's not a bad joke, it's rather a humorous rendition of failures, but through failures one can learn.

Most of my information about sex however derive from chinese culture where the emperor medicine man found a vegetarian way to keep the emperor healthy even if he slept with 5-10 concubines per night. The emperors in the end wewe still sexually potent until age 80, they needed no erectile drug.

The most important book I studied is called "the plain girl". But there are others of interest as well. I corrobored this work in endocrynology journals and other sciences to come to my conclusions, which are coming to be known I think, I think its one of the only subjects where anyone would come to about the same conclusions.
 
It had long been realised that the tekst was strikingly similar to the Arthashastra, a treatise on kingship and forms of government, but nobody had given any further thought to what that could mean for the interpretation of the Kama Sutra.
Just like the Arthashastra , the Kama Sutra is divided into books, chapters and sections, and in both cases the text ends with a treatise on esoteric issues
According to the Vedic perspective, there are four goals in human society: artha, dharma, kama and moksha. That's why there are four types of sastras (scriptures): artha-sastra, dharma-sastra, kama-sastra, and lots of moksha sastras. They all resemble eachother, especially in their structure.

'Classical Indian literature is generally taken very seriously, and there is simply no place for the idea that it might be a joke.'
The Veda's are actually full of puns and jokes. It's just that the Kama Sutra contains too much valuable suggestions (especially for its time) to be dismissed as a mere parody.
 
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