Responsibility

[GOD]

"GOD you say you took Ritalin last week.Why ? Do you have ADHD"

No . I have hepititis and the treatment totaly fucks you . You cant sleep and feel totaly ruined all the time . So they recomend Ritalin to help out when you need it . That was the day last week that i made 40 posts in one day !!!! I had 2 X 10 mg one day and 1 X 10 mg two days later . I wont do it again as i think the effects are realy boring . The only thing it does is make me feel nervous and on edge .

 

[faithless]

All of us have mental disorders, imho. On this forum on anywhere on the net/world, I don't think you could take one person and say "okay this one has no mental disorders". Take another one and say "YOU got some mental disorders, we'll have to work on that".

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But I agree, it's frightening to see that income of "injecting heroin" posts (is this sentence correct?). Banning the discussion would be dumb for sure, but there's not much to do. Maybe a post should be written, with the truth on those drugs, their real effects and danger, and how to convince yourself it won't make you feel better to take that. And copy/paste this post in every thread talking about a substance we feel is useless for the mind.

EDIT: the 2nd part of my post was already said by GOD. Hadn't read it all, sorry.

 

[Rymmen]

I always thought of this forum as a community forum, not a forum dedicated to just psychonautics -- though that may be the main interest of the people here.

The community also has other interests that aren't so psychonautic... what is to be done?

I've used coke, amps, opiates, benzos... all of that. Why would we ban discussion of if? At least if we discuss it, users might educate themselves about safety issues and our honest answers about them might even contribute to helping the user make a conscious effort to abandon any addiction that they have.

At the age of 12, I was diagnosed with this mental disorder or that. This continued on for a few years -- climaxing with me going to a mental institution. Depression was the only diagnosis I agree really was ever there -- and I don't think that it was ever neurochemical in nature, but purely psychological. Since I started using psychedelic drugs, my overall depression, with one honest-to-goodness suicide attempt under its belt, has ended.

I don't want to see this psychedelic community go down the path of ostracizing some of its users because some users look bad.

 

[buffachino]

I’m sure if we demonized all the people who have/do partake in these somewhat more detrimental substances, we would be missing out on a lot of first hand experience concerning the benefit to risk ratio they can ascribe.

 

[tryptonaut]

We seem to have atracted a lot of people with mental dissorders and iresponsible people abusing substances lately

I have had my problems with depression, should I be banned?
I have also been abusing substances and I still am (nicotine, for example). Would you ban me for that?

I know what you mean, but there's sometimes a thin line between mental dissorders, shamanism, escapism and drug abuse. I think it's all based in the human nature, and everyone trying to escape reality through drug abuse just hasn't been shown the right way to not escape reality by exploring new realities.
Instead of banning people from here we should try to give examples and talk about our experiences.

 

[Psychoid]

Banning discussions on a substance means no education for people who use them. We have on this forum people of all ages, so that means we have a lot of different experiences with all drugs, because I think a lot of psychonauts abuse at least one substance in their life. When young people come on the forum and ask questions about what they are going to do (for example sniffing glue), the older people people with knowledge and experience can explain them why it's bad and everything GOD said. Maybe he will have decided not to do it because of this and would have done it otherwise.

 

[HeartCore]

removed the troll food

 

[Meduzz]

 

[GOD]

"16 year old that no one here has ever fucking met?"

Sounds like other people that were givig the 15 year old Trick information how to fuck his and his familys lives up untill i went ape shit and stoped them ????? I wonder who they were ??? Did they start a responsibility thread ?

I have never told anyone how to make a bomb . I have warned against it , and your anal-agy with child porn is insulting and doesnt fit . The one thing is repeating information that might help a person not to blow themselves up or poison themselves and the other is poisoning them with porn . Why arent you complaining about all the chemists here that give people information ? Do you voluntere to be the censor and force your world view on all of us ???

"No he is a self proclaimed asshole"

Yes . I am . And i say it because i`m honest . Are you so holy that your arse has healed up or just to frightened to admit that you are human and not every thing you do is perfect ????

"Actually I have been switching to an organic extraction type which only uses water. "

Extractin DMT crystals with water ????

"Dutch cannabis fund terrorism?"

Why do you ask such a stupid question ??? Who said Dutch cannabis money goes to terrorists ? I didnt . Are you saying some Dutch people dont polute the planet with their indoor grass fertilisers , or are you just twisting things to get away from the fact that you poisoned the planet and didnt recycle when you made your DMT ? Are you saying some Dutch peopel dont sell Morocan , Lebanese , Afghani or Pakistani hash that funds the freedom fighters ???? Or just avoiding answering my questions ?????

"Don't talk bullshit please, can be hard for you but just take a deep breath."

Again stop trying to avoid your responsibility . Stop twisting things and answer my questions . And being honest with you is not talking bullshit , you avoiding your responsibility is . So is snobism and your wish to dictate and censor other people posts . So is standing puny little mushroom cakes in puddles of water with paper in them . If you are the big mushroom expert why havent you answered the question that i have asked several times about how to prevent some contamination thats better than sterilisation . Because you dont know , because you are still in the mushroom growers stone age . You have all your mushroom "knowledge" out of books that you didnt read properly , didnt understand and you werent even able to think about the next , very simple steps . I`ve grown more mushrooms and myceleum in one year than all the other people on this site in their whole lives . I used to do 400 X 1 liter glasses A DAY when i did a run . Have you spread more than 2 tons of myceleum outside so other people can have free mushrooms ? Have you dealt cannabis , LSD ,myceleum ,spores and mushrooms for more than 20 years like i used to ? Top quality for bottom price and then invested 10 % of the profit in helping your customers like i did ? Have you sacrificed your time in prisons 3 times because you were an activist like i have ?

"No one is killed because of my love for cannabis because I know where it comes from. You haven't even got a clue where my cannabis is grown, what it is fed so why not take a nice cup of shut the fuck up or, for once, take your medicine? "

Obviously the truth hurts and you cant face it , but you still put yourself above others and run away from your responsibility . Its called preaching water and drinking wine . Me taking or not taking my medicine doesnt stop you running away from the truth or twisting it so blatantly . And my medicine is anti viral whats that got to do with your problems or your grass ? Come down of your high horse and face the same reality that you couldnt face when you heard Silvs opinion and threw a tantrum and threatened to leave the forum . Remember you left , i became a moderator in 9 threads , and when you came back i said i didnt think it was fair that you didnt mopderate any threads anymore ..... and gave mine up so you could have them . And where did i say i knew what you are smoking and where its from ?

"I wasn't even talking about these poor americans, I was talking about the havoc being wrecked in other countries like Afhganistan, Colombia "

Pardon ? Isnt it the Americans that are causing the trouble there ? Isnt it them that are behind the cocain trade in America ? Isnt it them training and funding the death squads that are putting the blood on cocaine and pushing crack to black people in their own country ? Isnt it them that control international drug prohibition ? Isnt it them guarding the opium popys in Afghanistan and building roads there so it can be smuggled easyer ?

"Have you actually been here for the demonstration?"

Did that demonstration , however well ment change anything ? = NO . Could it have changed anything ? = NO . Have you ever planed and organised 4 three day drug demos where 30,000 people came and the police let us smoke cannabis openly . NO BUT I HAVE . I have taken part in every demo and action in the country i was in every time there was one . Have you ? I have sent my name and adress to the police and told them i smoked cannabis , have you ? Have you ever walked up to three troop vans full of police and smoked dope in their faces publicly ? I HAVE . Have you ever been to a conference where the police , the state prosecuters , judges and politicians were and openly smoked dope in their faces ? NO , but i have . Have you ever blown the chief constable of great Britain dope smoke in his face in a demo ? I HAVE .

"typing from your chair"

I dont own a chair . The only furnature i own is a futon .

"Or didn't you really have time because you needed to rant and rave on this forum actually doing exactly that what you feel others should not do? (scream and blame)."

You do it every time someone doesnt agree with you . Every time you one sidedly blame christians for problems . Thats why some people think you are a fanatical , bigoted hipocrit who would rather run away from legitimate questions and twist the truth than just be honest . And you just proved it again by doing it now .

Did i say anything that wasnt true ? Is it wrong of me to be honest and remind people of the other side when they talk ignorant , bigoted or racist shit . Do you ever apologise or even admit it when you make a mistake ? No . But i do .

Please answer questions and stick to facts and information , stop twisting things and start being a bit more honest . Or are you to jealous to think straight ?

Love and peace and get well soon .


Nice picture Meduzz , but my secret identity is "The phantom fart".