How do you call someone who does drugs for inner growth?

[magickmumu]

In the way that I have troubles controlling my use. Addiction problem.

 

[druglessdouglas]

"How do you call someone who does drugs for inner growth?"

A very very rare sort of person . Especialy on this forum , so far i`m only sure i`ve seen one and thats me .

I will write a fuller reply later.......... when i get over what i have read in the two threads on the subject .

On teusday i have to have a blood test to see if there are any hepi viruses in my blood . Normaly after 4 months of treatment if there are any still swiming around they break off the treatment . They already gave me an extra month because i had 8.800.000 viruses per milliliter of blood instead of about 3.500.000 that infected people usualy have . If there are any at all they will break off the treatment = the little fuckers will have a replication orgy and i will be back where i started . Then i will have to wait 6 months till all the medicine is out of my body so i can start with a new experimental treatmen thats side effects are much worse than the hell i`ve been going through with this medicine . It would also mean that i will have to wait at least another year from now untill i can take up my mate AJs invitation for a free weekend in his establishment with mega doses of X , coke , alk and cannabis . ( the bastard told me i have to have a bath first though..... ) Am looking forwards to getting blisters on me dick .
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[Brugmansia]

The only drug I abuse is cannabis, and I am not proud of it.

In what way do you abuse it? I certainly use it, but I do not consider it abusage.

It's a matter of motive. I have always rejected cannabis as a daily depressant or downer. (this is what almost always happens when there's tobacco in the blood too) But using a few pure hits thoughful at the end of the day to keep a critical, yet positive life view belongs to a whole different corner.

 

[Psyolopher]

Entheogenist maybe?!
I also do it for inner growth, but i also do it to enhance my creative stuff!
And i generally just like to think, and yeah!
I never really do drugs just to get the high because it might be fun etc etc....(except for alcohol, and maaaybe weed)
But i mostly try to use it for like yeah, music, creativity, paint, thinking and writing!
So what am i?
A drug addicted hippie? (Im called hippy alot, even though im not)
Entheogenist?! maybe?
I really dont like the Icelandic ones, they all sound so negative!

Hmm dunno!

 

[druglessdouglas]

im really ashamed to admit it but i take drugs because i enjoy it.whats the point of lying about it? most of the time its for pleasure. there, ive said it, flame away

 

[Psyolopher]

Hehe well, where i can use weed and just enjoy i do it!
And if i can afford it!
But i dno, i dont really do much drugs at all!
I always try to use my head while trippin though, maybe sometimes i trip at festivals etc....

 

[sheena]

i would call him a bullshitter

 

[druglessdouglas]

i would call him a bullshitter

a cromulent answer if ever i heard one

 

[Nomada]

im really ashamed to admit it but i take drugs because i enjoy it.whats the point of lying about it? most of the time its for pleasure. there, ive said it, flame away

Inner growth may sound pragmatic, like in search of results that will make you better, stronger, blah, blah...
There's no point in doing [attempting] something you're not enjoying. Acknowledging the symbolic baggage we may have with spongy decadence, Hedonism can be produced as a form of spirituality that will destroy previously determined boundaries of our mind-Chamanysm regards ecstasy as theater of mutation; it can. I applaud drugless sincerity. Don't be ashamed drugless, I beg you, on the contrary...

Pleasure... for it to be constructive, should not, I believe, be grounded on "results". It is by itself, that is enough. In fact, that's what makes it so inevitably beautiful.

 

[druglessdouglas]

well said Nomada. ive never seen a miserable holy man/shaman/Buddhist monk. they all apear to be quite happy.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

well said Nomada. ive never seen a miserable holy man/shaman/Buddhist monk. they all apear to be quite happy.

Many holy men and Buddhist are concerned with PR and their smile is meant to tell you "Look, I'm very happy. Join our order / think & act like me and you will also be happy." It doesn't mean they live a happy life or that they actually enjoy doing their religious duties.

There's no point in doing [attempting] something you're not enjoying.

I enjoy being on this path, but I do not always enjoy having these intense experiences. I hardly ever go in "to have a good time". There is ecstasy, but there's also agony and contemplation. I do agree however that it's perfectly fine to do psychedelics for enjoying the HERE and NOW while the trip is going on.

 

[Nomada]

I enjoy being on this path, but I do not always enjoy having these intense experiences. I hardly ever go in "to have a good time". There is ecstasy, but there's also agony and contemplation. I do agree however that it's perfectly fine to do psychedelics for enjoying the HERE and NOW while the trip is going on.

Yes, from a culturally bound perspective, "having a good time" has its own symbolic charge, of image consumption, of ego gratification, of dominance, of look-at-me-I'm-prettier-than-you. Symbolic baggage from which I am not speaking from, though.
Martian Parthenon Agony, intensity lacing more intensity, time stopping contemplation, being scared in over sanity-insanity, etc; and all this inherently beyond comprehension IS, Caduceus, what I define as ecstasy. And the fact the we all go in regularly, intentionally, is evidence that we are all having a great time doing it, don't we?

Not that it's all special effects and pretty lights. I'm just trying to be cathartic and acknowledge that we are all erotic, deeply passionate beings.

When I smile, you can see my teeth.
Mind as play.

 

[Dr_Brazil]

I'd call 'em by name.

Fuck classification.