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gammagoblin a dit:
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restin a dit:
oh, I know enough people where cure is futile and love is waste...

love is never waste.... only time is waste on these people...


peace
Why? those are the people who need it most ... " because cure is futile " .... alright, but with that intention you ain't gonna move shit, I like to live in the illusion that people can be changed. I don't see how else we can get out of the mess we got ourselves into.


i also live in the illusion that people can be changed. i also would not see a happy "end" for the world if people couldn't be changed.


peace.
 
restin a dit:
I lost this illusion for a long time. One thing is to say : well there are people who are stupid and stuff but they deserve love

the other is seeing these people live. Every day. The whole day. These people disgust them. Of course I won't change anything by thinking and acting like that. But human history is full of such people and they are always a majority. Do you think all people are like these in this forum? No, this is only a very small drop in an ocean of ignorance and stupidity.
And that is exactly the reason I do try to reach everyone, we need every person we can get. However you're right, if they aren't getting it I'm out of there. But not until I tried.
 
that's very true. The people I am talking about: I tried to reach them. But they won't listen.
 
The only thing you can do is try , and usualy seeds that one plants grow even if its much later and you dont see it . If not you know that you have done your best .
 
let's think about that. How many people will you have known at the end of your life? Probably 150? More? If you remember the ones you were at college (or what it is called in your country), university, have worked with. And you want to give yourself to all of them? If yes, I really admire you. I can't. I gave up with 5-6 people. I want more time for myself that wasting it towards others. Sorry for being so egocentric but this is me.
 
restin a dit:
let's think about that. How many people will you have known at the end of your life? Probably 150? More? If you remember the ones you were at college (or what it is called in your country), university, have worked with. And you want to give yourself to all of them? If yes, I really admire you. I can't. I gave up with 5-6 people. I want more time for myself that wasting it towards others. Sorry for being so egocentric but this is me.
Why do you feel sorry? You're just doing things your way man :P. But how do you mean give yourself to them?
 
I mean giving them love and open-mindness...

Or what were you exactly talking about when you talked about love towards people who needed it most?
 
I think that being open minded and giving love is an atitude , a way of being , a life style and that it doesnt realy cost anything or take any effort once one starts .

Giving love means helping where you can , not abusing , not just taking , not taking advantage and thinking about things and being fair . But not that one goes to far and fucks oneself .
 
restin a dit:
I mean giving them love and open-mindness...

Or what were you exactly talking about when you talked about love towards people who needed it most?
Indeed giving them love.
 
Indeed giving them love.

In what matter? Or is it abstract?

I think that being open minded and giving love is an atitude , a way of being , a life style and that it doesnt realy cost anything or take any effort once one starts .

Giving love means helping where you can , not abusing , not just taking , not taking advantage and thinking about things and being fair . But not that one goes to far and fucks oneself .

Sounds good. I am fair in my deeds but in my heart I feel hate.
 
it's nice that you want to be honest to everyone.
it's dumb though....


peace.
 
no offense, but if I'd say to everyone everything I think about them, I would have only enemies around me :D
 
restin a dit:
no offense, but if I'd say to everyone everything I think about them, I would have only enemies around me :D

that's what i was sayin' :weedman:
 
high 5 :weedman:
 
Speaking from your heart means being honest , not telling them everything .
 
restin a dit:
no offense, but if I'd say to everyone everything I think about them, I would have only enemies around me :D
why do you think GOD has so many enemy's around here :P but you can also choose the way how you say things. If you bring it positively people pick it up faster.

But let me be "dumb", I'm rather dumb with the knowledge in my heart that I do what's good than that I would be ignorant.
 
gammagoblin a dit:
restin a dit:
no offense, but if I'd say to everyone everything I think about them, I would have only enemies around me :D
why do you think GOD has so many enemy's around here :P but you can also choose the way how you say things. If you bring it positively people pick it up faster.

But let me be "dumb" better dumb and knowing in my heart that I do what's good than being ignorant.


WORD!!!!!! :weedman:
 
But let me be "dumb", I'm rather dumb with the knowledge in my heart that I do what's good than that I would be ignorant.

No you are not dumb. You have actively chosen a path, and your way is the path of universal love. I don't judge you, now I am rather jealous that you have the strength to go this path. I can't.

Speaking from your heart means being honest , not telling them everything .

But if honesty is offensive I would have enemies anyway.

but you can also choose the way how you say things. If you bring it positively people pick it up faster.

"I am sorry but your cerebral activity shows below-average tendencies including cognitive abilities and your virtual horizon is barely existent" 8)
 
restin a dit:
But let me be "dumb", I'm rather dumb with the knowledge in my heart that I do what's good than that I would be ignorant.

No you are not dumb. You have actively chosen a path, and your way is the path of universal love. I don't judge you, now I am rather jealous that you have the strength to go this path. I can't.

[quote:2fywvf6y]Speaking from your heart means being honest , not telling them everything .

But if honesty is offensive I would have enemies anyway.

but you can also choose the way how you say things. If you bring it positively people pick it up faster.

"I am sorry but your cerebral activity shows below-average tendencies including cognitive abilities and your virtual horizon is barely existent" 8)[/quote:2fywvf6y]
Well, it does me good to hear someone's jealous at me :P but what I said wasn't because I felt attacked by what you say or whatever, I thought it could just prove my point, and might show you another way to look at it.
 
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