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Eating Hash

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Dearly beloved ..... children ,

Are we sitting comfortably ??? ( I will try to write slowly so you can nderstand
) . Then i`ll begin .......

"Melena cream from nepal" .

You mean MALANA from india , near shimla , a little higher than parvati , not
nepal , and its a tourist trap . It used to be ok in the 1980s when parvati became a tourist resort . When it was good , people brought small amounts of charas back with them . The best qualitys used to cost 30 - 50 gulden A GRAM in holland and were not sold in coffee shops . So its no wonder that you felt ill if you eat bad comercial coffee shop tourist products . You all sound like someone who has bought a plastic scateboard and tells everyone that they have the best car in the world . Plastic scateboards are not rolls royces or
lamborginis . One could read "Das Lexikon Haschisch" wich is basicaly ( a load of bollocks ) a list of dutch coffee shop fantasy names plus a few real ones .

In paris in the 19th century there was a club called "Club des hashashins" where many of frances avant guard , writers , poets and artists met to eat hashish . They ate extracts in alcohol and little balls of real hash that weighed 3 - 4 grams each . They ate between 10 and 30 grams of hash each time . Charles Baudelair describes effects that can be equal to LSD or other psychedelic drugs . "Baudelaires Hashish States And Modern Drug Rating Scales.pdf" compares shulgins +1 , 2 , 3 , 4... scale of drug effects to other modern scales and Charles Baudelairs own scale of the effects of eating real hashiah .See also Charles Baudelairs books "Les paradis artificiels" and "The Poem Of Hashish" .

Where are the people who claimed that a .25 to .3 gramm homeopathetic dose is the best tried and tested dose to eat ? Why arent they slaging off or calling the people lyers who are saying that they ate 2.5 gramms and it didnt kill each of them 10 times ???

If you want to know anything about making tourist hash get yourself the film "Haschisch" or in english "Hashish" by daniel grabner , its got undertitles for several languages . You can watch it either with undertitles or the original or with a german comentary by the makers wich shows how blind they are . Watch it 3 times and then read the book "Hascisch" by Robert Connel Clarke 3 times . The film shows how they make bad tourist comercial , wich is still much better than what we get here , usualy . The book is the best one i know on the subject and explains a lot about hash qualitys and making hash in maroco .
When you have done that you will be at the begining , get 35 years of experience on top of that and maybe you will understand me / what i am talking about . There are a few films out there about making tourist hash , another one is by a guy calling himself "gypsy nirvana" wich is also crap . If they break , rub or thrash the plants they are making tourist crap .

This is a basic rule of thumb . Good powder sticks together with hand warmth and a little hand preasure . 2nd quality needs a press and sometimes a little heat . 3rd needs water , lots of preasure and high temperatures to press .

I got a private message from someone talking about a man who came back from moroco and smoked with people who then accused him of putting L.S.D. in the pipe . This sounds like what i have seen ..... a friend came back from ketama and ruined my friends birthday party . He left a trail of people who could not stand up anymore or who just stood around like zombies and couldnt talk anymore behind him , and i have often seen people smoke good hash and black out / fall over . They could definately not drive or wander round the streets safely .

If you want information about drugs look in emule ( kad only , the servers are all honey pots , at least those in europe and the u.s. ) .


Entheonaut ,

THANKS for the civilised reply . No i havent read "Uit Je Bol" by Gerben Hellinga en Hans Plomp , but i would like to . I collect everything bout drugs . I like the "If only a fraction of McKenna's thought is true, he will someday be regrded as the Copernicus of conciousness". The word "fraction" was apropriate as some of the things his holyness T.McKenna said were diplomaticaly said ,,,,, not based in science . Wich i will explain more in the MAOI facts thread soon .


MindAstronaut ,

"@ GOD is there any good hasj in europe according to you?"

I dont think that one can get it on the comercial = for everyone , market . Quality is relative to what is there and what you have had before . People who have good quality usualy hoard it and smoke it all themselves . You need to know people who want to make quality and not money . Thats expensive and lots of work . The hash burns bit was a little trick . It does not burn , the vapore burns . It should burn with a little clean yellow blue flame after warming a corner for afew seconds with a lighter . But the flame should hover above the piece , if the piece burns directly its BAD SHIT . The longer the flame burns the better the hash is . If the flame is big or dirty its a bad sign . There should be two !!! smoke trails coming of it and the smoke should be thick and white . Billowing smoke = the smoke expands as it comes off it . I have now told you more than i have ever seen in all the books and films i know . FOR FREE .

"so i've you burn it and the smoke is not black and the ash of it is mainly white then its good hasj?"

No . It has a chance that it is good .


"There's some coffeeshops that sells a group of hasj that is constantly from the same growers/makers, it even has its own trade name called Rifman. maybe commercial but it is some goodass hasj not the crap i ate before "

Try it and tell us what happened . Just relax and DONT GO TO SLEEP .
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DevXavier ,
"Dude, where do you live?

I am willing to meet, film it when you eat 15 grams of polm dissolved in chocolate milk, I'll film your puking, I'll even take you to the emergency room. Then post it on this topic."Objective" enough? EDIT: Yes, I will bring along the 15 grams of hash."

BINGO !!!! I can meet you , or anyone else with a camera , in germany . But only 15 grams , oh well i supose its better than nothing . I would of cource check "it" out before i eat it . Dont want to eat datura or other cack ????? Beam me a private message with your Email adress and i`ll beam you an email adress to sort the details out . The sooner the better ....... I`m gonna be a film star mom !!!!! HALELUJA !!!!
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Soulcatcher ,


" Although the LD50 is relatively high" !!!!!!!

I dont know one , i`v never seen one , other than "theoretical" ones . As i said before a french soldier is recorded as eating 100 grams of real morocan and he woke up after a good sleep with a smile on his face . ( I think that comes from a book by Simon Vinkenoog(?) a VERY nice expert that lives / used to live near the train station in amsterdam . I am sure that it would be imposible to eat the amount of hash wich some "experts" claim to be the LD50 . But wait and see my new film !!!! that DevXaviers going to make .


"after all your claims, but also all the crap you talk about how to get good hash and everything here (holland) is shit.. you don't live up to what you ask of other people prove it! prove it!"

If you bother to read what i say you will see the proof ., and the answers to your snoty subjective questians and false statements . WATCH THE FILM AND I WILL PROVE IT . Maybe you two could get together and halve the costs ..... but double the embaressment when i prove you wrong . How do you know that you know what you think you know ? Were you ever in ketama , vilage not only province . Read the book by R,C,Clarke if you wont believe me . Relative is relative . You are very probably getting a better product than i am at the moment if you are in holland . I`m not saying you dont like what you have , but what do you base your claim on ??? I HAVE NEVER ADVISED ANYONE ANYWHERE TO EAT 50 grams of hash . Read the thread again .


"there are a lot of people that actually get sick when they eat more then a gram",

5 year old kids get sick waiting to open their christmas presents . I do believe you . Its called shiting yourself in the trousers , or placebo , or psychology .


"its not placebo.. and if it is, it works fine for me "

BINGO , you said it .


"So don't pretend your knowledge is the best around here.. your input is welcome but dont offend people by boldly stating that what they say isnt true.. And be more carefull about what you advise to beginners."

I dont pretend anything . The central thing about the truth is that it is true .... and can be proven . GET YOUR CAMERA OUT . AND STOP ACUSING ME OF THINGS I HAVE NOT SAID . The only thing that you have proven up till now is that you have not read / understood ??? what i have said here and that you are very , very subjective .


"I am not gonna respond again on this topic because i feel i said enough"

Good , i think that to .


"but i will read your reply".

Thank you . Hopefully you will read the books i have sugested and stop being so childishly stuborn . A lot of other people will read it and remember it to . They will remember what we have both said , watch the film and then they will know who is talking childish insulting subjective SHIT . They will also remember that you were the one who manovered himself into a very , very dumb position .....in public .


"What goes up, must come down"

One of the next lines says "the hardest thing is coming down" . A lot of other people will read it and remember it to . They will remember what we have both said , watch the film and then they will know who is talking childish insulting subjective SHIT . They will also remember that you were the one who manovered himself into a very , very dumb position .....in public .


If anyone wants to talk hokus pokus or kiddy cack , why dont they start a thread and say that its only a fantasy thread and i promise i wont tell them when them talk backward shit again . Maybe psychonerds.com can add another thread category and call it "only for dickheads" , or "wet behind the ears" or something equaly apropriate . Maybe i`ll start one and call it "SLAG GOD" where all the angry and agresive people can let of steam somewhere without trashing other peoples threads , or getting on my nerves .



LOVE GOD

Some PROOF for sinners :- http://www.pirateshare.net/?id=6834267
The .rar password is :- wetbehindtheears

I just found out that everything we talk about here is in GOOGLE !!!! = I have had EMAILS asking me for hash !!!! I DO NOT MAKE HASH , OR SMUGLE HASH , OR SELL HASH , OR ANY OTHER DRUGS .


VERY SORRY FOR THE STUPID / CRIPLED LAYOUT IT IS THIS WEB SITE NOT ME .
 
At the moment i`m smoking Marsian temple polm stick sputnic zero zero lambsbread balls malana purple green blue red gold blond paki border afghani nepal thai lebanese turkish morocan sensi chitral masar-i parvati skuff grass shit hash pollen .....creme ?


I`M GONNA BE A FILM STAR .

LOVE GOD
 
Ok I am gonna break my promise here. But i don't want to hold this from you since you are such a fervent collector.

http://www.uitjebol.net/

you can download the book entheonaut was talking about there, just click on the line that says

in tekstformaat (geziped, 91 kilo) or
word-formaat (geziped, 115 kilo)

You probably wont understand it, but it's something for your collection.

I dont want to continue this discussion, and you probably don't want to either. But I want to clarify myself. I have to admit, you never literaly advised anyone to take those amounts. But there are newbies looking on google and they might end up on this thread. That is how i first got onto the forum. I'm just trying to prevent any accidents here (and anywhere else), because I like to keep weed and hash legal.

I don't really know in what dumb position I am supposed to be now, but I also do not care. Because at least the rookies I was talking about that will read this will not start with 50 grams :)

And also, I'd love to see the film :)


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I looked up simon vinkenoog, I did find some other drugrelated things, but nothing about the french guy that ate 100g. Can you tell me exactly where to find it?
 
And yes i am from holland.

Where are you from? I think DevXavier will want to know.
 
I`M GOING TO BE A FILM STAR !!!!!! Film star autograms for sale 5$ . Guided tours of gods stately home 10$ . Aryan genius sperma 100$ . KIcks in the balls free for dickheads . I`M GOING TO BE A FILM STAR !!!!!!

Dear Soulcatcher ,

Thanx for the good manered post .


"You probably wont understand it, but it's something for your collection."


Thanx for the web adress . I am realy pleased about the fact that someone thought about me and tried to help me . I hope we dont mean that maybe i`m to thick to understand it , i hope we mean that because it is in dutch ? I might have difficulty with a few words , but dutch isnt that hard to understand when i can read it , but when someone talks fast with a hard acent then its STRANGE for my ears . Sort of "double dutch" as they say in the small american slave colony hanging of the arse of europe where i come from .

"I dont want to continue this discussion, and you probably don't want to either. But I want to clarify myself. I have to admit, you never literaly advised anyone to take those amounts. But there are newbies looking on google and they might end up on this thread. That is how i first got onto the forum. I'm just trying to prevent any accidents here (and anywhere else), because I like to keep weed and hash legal."

Thanx again . If you want to explain anything please do . I will talk to anyone who is good manered , wether i dissagree with them or not . I think your concern for the safety of others is worth being proud of .



Simon vinkenoog , the dutch poet lauriate , is still alive and has a web site in dutch and english http://www.simonvinkenoog.nl/, ( god is trying to tell me something... his last post was on my birthday....) . I said that about him from memory , i read it in one of the first drug books that i read years ago and lost somewhere on the road , i think it was in a book that was called "ANDREWS AND VINKENOOG. THE BOOK OF GRASS: An Anthology of Indian Hemp. 1967."


If you or anyone else sees / has any books , films or info about drugs please beam them over . I can beam you a few books and films if you want . I am specificaly looking for "The hightimes encyclopedia of psychoactive drugs" or some similar name , "The dr.atomic comic" , INFO ABOUT "METHOD X" , simon vinkenoog books , "A CHILD'S GARDEN OF GRASS: The Official Handbook For Marijuana Users. By Margolis and Clorfene." . There are at least 2 books and an LP called "A CHILD'S GARDEN OF GRASS" .


"And also, I'd love to see the film"

ME 3 !!! I am realy looking forwards to being a FILM STAR . I have just been out and bought myself test kits for all major drug groups so i can test "it" first so i will know if they are trying to dose me with LSD or datura . I have washed my best green socks and have a plastic bag ready to put over my head . Maybe we can do it twice one time without and one time with Peganum Harmala .


"Maybe you should get an English textbook instead of a drugbook."

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Ik nikts verstehen ? Please explain ? Was that a last hilflose verzweifelte angrif ? or am i being to sensetive again ?


I DEMAND TO BE A FILM STAR........NOW !!!!! HOP ! HOP ! I`M WAITING VERY , VERY HARD SINCE Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:58 . I have said how people can find me . Send me a private post with an email adress and i will make an email adress for you to send me details and questions . I AM WAITING..........


LOVE GOD

I`M GOING TO BE A FILM STAR !!!!!! Film star autograms for sale 5$ . Guided tours of gods stately home 10$ . Aryan genius sperma 100$ . KIcks in the balls free for dickheads . I`M GOING TO BE A FILM STAR !!!!!!
 
I`M GOING TO BE A FILM STAR !!!!!!! BRING ON THE GROUPYS AND THE COCAINE ??????? I`M GOING TO BE A FILM STAR !!!!!!!

To save Devxavier money and prove i`m wrong all you other people who dont believe me could donate a bit of cash to him . I thought that most of you dissbelievers live in holland ? And a few of you know each other allready anyway . A few of you could put some money together and come over . If you have an old trabby it could not take you more than six hours to get here wherever in holland you live . I can offer you somewhere to sleep if you bring something to sleep on / in . I`ll give you a guided tour of the city and Arther J. says he will show you a few things to take fotos of that might interest some people here on the forum , AND SHUT A FEW OTHER PEOPLE UP .

Plan "B" , Someone who lives near me could film it ???

LOVE GOD

I`M GOING TO BE A FILM STAR !!!!!!! BRING ON THE GROUPYS AND THE COCAINE ??????? I`M GOING TO BE A FILM STAR !!!!!!!
 
GOD, I just have this to say: the dose you talk about is not practical: way too expensive! Even you are now begging others to pay for the dose.

Until the time when Cannabis is legal on a global scale and prices have come down significantly, I'll just stick to homegrown mushrooms.
 
Hello ,

I got a reply to this thread that i didnt understand from the people who run this site . Here is the answer i mailed them . I hope it explains to you why i am here .

Hello ,

I`m sorry that i didnt reply up till now , i only read your message today .

It would be nice if i knew who i am talking to . What did your message mean please ? I dont understand .

I`m sorry if the truth is "hostile" . I find it hostile when i am called a lier , mentaly ill , abnoxious , insane or get told to fuck off by naive children when i point out to them that they are talking dangerous rubish . Remember , i didnt start it , i told the truth , was atacked for it and i defended myself .

This is why i do what i do , please dont feel i`m being "hostile" to you , I´m trying to help , to offer another , rational , honest side to things , so that people see that there are two sides to everything and that they have the choice to question , to doubt the unobjective hokus pokus that they are sometimes flooded with here .

If you talk to poisons departments of hospitals they will tell you about our responsibility . Did you know that there is a link between most of the poisoning cases with datura , and other "entheogens" , and web sites like this one and similar books ? They always ask the victims why they poisoned themselves , and most say they did it because of reading about it on a web site or in books . I was told about 36 cases of datura poisoning in 1998 , the year that "The encyclopedia of psychoactive plants" came out and 2 years later there were 136 . That there have been at least 4 peakes of poisonings in the last 10 years and all of them coresponded to the releases of books or web sites . The people who are recomending datura have no experience with it . I have . I used it for about 4 years , internaly and externaly , many times , so i know what i am talking about . Do you know anyone who has done the same and dissagres with me ???

Do you realise that a big reason these things are illegal is because of what some unobjective / disshonest / irational people make out of it . Twisting things with idiotic storys , that they claim are fact , like the mayan calender , eating more than .3 of a gram of "hash" wood kill you , the voynicht manuscript , maschine elves , time wave zero , morphogenic fields , MAOIs / psilocybin and other sick ideas . Any normal person rejects things like that , and us , and all the true things with it ? I came to this site because i found it in a google search , and was horified at what was being said by pseudo experts . What do you think that "normal" people think when they stumble upon things in the net like that ? ( I mean normal , like every day people , not people like us ). I went to the lokal poisoning center , the green party and the state prosecuter and asked what they thought about people pretending to be experts in the internet adviseing other people to do what they are to scared to do themselves , they said that they are aware of it and are not happy about it .

Do you want a web site full of irational , frightened little sheep with brown tongs telling each other dangerous , idiotic lies huddeling together in the dark ? A repeat of the dark ages ?

I have nothing against people who have "conscious dreams" , i just want to try to help people not to get conscious nightmares /poisonings .

I was aware that my message was not reaching every body , thats why i changed my styl , i`m learning .

I would apreciate an answer please , please take as mutch time , and show as much love to try to explain to me your thoughts as i have taken to try to explain mine to you .

LOVE GOD

I`m not beging anything from anyone , to see that please read the thread again . In my opinion eating hash should be a rare thing . once or twice a year is enough as one needs time to recover . I am trying to find someone with a video camera and then i will film myself eating 20 grams and post it .
 
marc a dit:
Cosmic Yoghurt !! Pour a little bit of oil on a spoon, put hash in it, heat it up with a lighter, and put it in the yoghurt !!

Well didn't work for me :( i putted some weed on in oil on a spoon heated it up quite nice aputted in my Vitalinea yoghourt just 10 mins ago ... still not feeling anything :'(
 
oliboytje a dit:
marc a dit:
Cosmic Yoghurt !! Pour a little bit of oil on a spoon, put hash in it, heat it up with a lighter, and put it in the yoghurt !!

Well didn't work for me :( i putted some weed on in oil on a spoon heated it up quite nice aputted in my Vitalinea yoghourt just 10 mins ago ... still not feeling anything :'(
after 10minutes? you must be joking man. if there is nothing after 3 or 4 hours.. then you have the right to be concerned..
 
Hmmm nice :P o ow >.< haha :p i'm a rater on a child's star academy later :P

hehe :D won't be to bored then i guess :p
 
@ GOD: thats indeed a great initiative you are taking here, people must be able to poison themselves as long as they know it's their fault, and that's where you come in. i must say i'm impressed how you are against something and instead of pushing it away, you try to improve it.
a devil's advocate always comes in handy :wink:

ps: if you want your messages to spread faster, make shorter messages please :)
 
man all this buzz about hash i wanna try it sometime but i almost never hear about anyone who sells it around me i smoked oil once but thats it i wanna try making some hash brownies or something is a hash high relateable to the high you get from cooking bud?
 
Nope, not at all.
Hash is more high, weed is more stoned.
 
Yup they are often long . I just want to get the message over so no one can missunderstand , some people need more explaining than others to understand .

Eating cooked grass is not the same as eating hash , but its still very nice . The difference for me is that eating lots of good hash or a few grams of oil without cooking it can be halucinogenic , eating cooked grass makes me more sedated . I put about 50 grams of dry buds in a cake mix + the grass butter for a baking tray full = 20 pieces .
 
Lion a dit:
Nope, not at all.
Hash is more high, weed is more stoned.
depends..
I guess you can't say that. I made the experience that hash makes you tired and so on, I guess that's what you meant by stoned.
and weed, well, we have severall kinds of weed here, this goes from go-immediatly-to-bed-weed to laugh-and-make-music-and-do-other-things-without-getting-too-tired-weed :>

when I come home from boston, I think I'll make myself a bubblehash-cocoa =) (as I'm not allowed to smoke anymore..) this stuff tastes fabulous.
bubblehash has such a great taste and smell to it, I totally love it. it's like the essential oil from a fir tree
the cool thing is, a friend of mine sent me the hash from amsterdam by post :D I would never get such a good hash here..
 
I am going to try eating hash for the first time tonight. I will try the cosmic yogourt. But I have some questions:

1. Will it work with extra light olive oil?
2. How long will the trip last with 1.5g?
3. Will it be stronger or weaker than when you smoke?

Thanks for the answers!!!
 
1. yes, any vegetable oil will do.
2. up to 6 hours, is my guess. But 1.5 grams is a LOT. I usually white out with more than 0.3 grams of good hash. But this, of course, depends on the quality. I am used to get good hash from a dutch coffeeshop. Other hash usually's weak.
3. it will be different. with smoking, i'm in my mind, with eating i'm in my entire body. And it might be a bit stronger, therefore.
 
Thanks for you answers! I have another question :P You say 1.5g is a lot... but can you eat too much hash? Is there a chance that I will feel bad with 1.5g? I'm planning to do XTC along with it, so maybe it would be a better idea to split it in 2 and take 0.75g? would that dose be enough for a strong effect?
 
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