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Eating Hash

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5 grams of hash....that will get you a nice share of THC poisoning, if the hash is anywhere near half-decent quality.

EDIT: Didn't read properly and saw you don't use the hash in like chocolate milk or anything. Eating it then is a complete and utter waste of hash.
 
GOD a dit:
Eating hash was my favorit drug experience . Up to 50 grams of good hash or 2 or 3 grams of hash oil .

50 Grams? what in one go? That would knock u out...

GOD a dit:
The stuff that used to be available at least 20 years ago is / was a trip compairable to other hallucinogenics.

It's still THC... You could never compare that with psilo / LSA / LSD / DMT

GOD a dit:
If i eat even the best coffee shop quality hash in any quantities , over 10 - 15 grams

Then what? Do you ever eat 15 g of Hash? Sounds like someone is talking BS
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GOD a dit:
I would recomend you to start with 1 - 5 grams of hash .

How dare you recommend people to START with 1 to 5 g of hash? It would be closer to 0,2 - 0,5 g of hash. Don't you realise what happens if beginners read this and believe you!? This is why it goes WRONG sometimes. Because people like you talk like they know everything, and they spread the wrong kind of information.

GOD a dit:
I HOPE SOMEONE DOES NOT BELIEVE ME AND CHALENGES ME TO PROVE IT......I WILL.....IF THEY PAY FOR THE HASH . PLEASE , PLEASE , PLEASE . YOU CAN VIDEO IT TO PROVE IT . PLEASE . PRETY PLEASE .

Yes I don't believe you and challenge you (I bet you OD lol)... Why should i pay for the hash, I heard you talking about whole fields full of it???
 
DevXavier a dit:
5 grams of hash....that will get you a nice share of THC poisoning, if the hash is anywhere near half-decent quality.

EDIT: Didn't read properly and saw you don't use the hash in like chocolate milk or anything. Eating it then is a complete and utter waste of hash.

Raw :roll: ? Jugh :p... Doesn't it get into your system?
 
After extensive personal research I reckon the optimal amount of hash to use in yer recipes is around 0.25/0.3 gram. I use polm for it.
 
in portugal is hard to get weed, but we have tons of hash. and i bet that you eat 50g of good hash, you won't be awake to tell how it was. but i agree with entheonaut: i bet you OD.
 
Normaly i have to get my boat out of the garage , push it down to the river , paddle out , put a worm on the hook and put it into the water . Here i only have to leave the front door open and the fish jump into the frying pan , cook themselves and then jump onto the plate .

THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE PERSONALY .....BUT PROVE WHAT YOU SAY .

"5 grams of hash....that will get you a nice share of THC poisoning"

THC poisoning ??? As far as science is concerned every dose of these drugs is a poisoning , what do you mean ? Whats the LD50 ?

"Didn't read properly and saw you don't use the hash in like chocolate milk or anything. Eating it then is a complete and utter waste of hash".

NO IT IS NOT . WHY ??? I said vanila vla , joghurt or custard wich are all faty and sweet = the THC is easyer to asimilatein this case . It is not "as effective" but who gives a fuck when one eats that amount . NEVER warm hash up with a lighter or cook it . It is not grass , we dont have to decarboxylate the THC acid to THC like in grass to make it oraly active so you can eat it . Warm it up means , in the palm of your hand . I never use fire as THC evaporates at around 200°C because the flame from a lighter is much to hot , over 450°C as far as i can remember . I powder it with a knife and put it on a piece of paper and tip it back , taking gulps of custard or joghurt , chew it and swallow it . Lots of pieces of it do get stuck in your teeth wich is not exactly nice . I do not eat for 4 hours before .

Polm is a comercial name for a comercial dutch coffee shop product . The real names are premiere , dersiem and troiasiam = 1st , 2nd and 3rd. That was spelt like they are said , SORRY to all the french speaking people out there i can not speak french . The "hash" available on the general market is comercial . That what has to be sold to people who dont know any better so that others get something good for themselves . = Each layer of dealers have better hash for themselves than they sell to the people bellow them . No one sells good hash to a person that does not know what good hash is , OR ? If people are happy smoking crap why would anyone spoil their market and be left sitting on crap that no one will smoke anymore ?

"50 Grams? what in one go? That would knock u out..."

I did say the comercial things people call good today make you tired . How can people compare things that they have had with things that they have never had ? To know that you would have to , at least , have been to moroco and make it yourself . First you would have to learn how to make it . No morocan would and no book could show you . Then you need a farm run by berbers on the top of the mountains who know how to grow good plants and have good seeds . Then there are 3 qualities of plants . To get the best quality you have to go down there and buy / reserve several fields in june . They wont sell you the best and sit on the other worse qualities themselves unless you pay BIG money . It takes till december to dry and get the best conditions to work it . Making good hash is HARD work and takes ages , morocans dont need to do it , they make for money , not our pleasure . To make 50 grams of good hash one needs between 100 and 200 kilos of DRY plants / buds . Not indoor plants , hash plants . One then gets about 500 grams of 2nd quality and about 2 kilos of 3rd quality . Then from the rest the morocans make about 30 - 60 kilos of 3 different grades of comercial , wich is still better than the stuff we see here on the market generaly .

"It's still THC... You could never compare that with psilo / LSD / LSD / DMT" .

Dont they all have three letters ? And how do you know if you have not tried it ??? You are just saying that you have only ever had comercial . THC is an hallucinogenic . Have you ever had hallucinations from it ? If you read the storys from the "club of hashashins " in paris in the 19th century . You will see descriptions of its effects when eaten , effects that sound like trips . But , they had hashish that wasnt made to take the money out of the pockets of ignorant tourists . It wasnt "COMERCIAL" . Dont tell me its not a trip untill you have tried it for yourself in the quantities i have said .

"Then what? Do you ever eat 15 g of Hash? Sounds like someone is talking BS"

YES YOU . I would never eat less than 10 grams as i find it boring . Not worth the trouble . Get your video camera out and put your money where your mouth is and i`ll prove it . 10 grams is a mouse fart . Dont judge other people by your low standards , just because you are to frightened to do something . Like i said i eat up to 50 grams , and that to many times to remember over the last 30 years . I lie on the floor , in a semi dark room , with my eyes closed , legs , arms and fingers open and have FUN for a few hours .

"How dare you recommend people to START with 1 to 5 g of hash? It would be closer to 0,2 - 0,5 g of hash. Don't you realise what happens if beginners read this and believe you!? This is why it goes WRONG sometimes. Because people like you talk like they know everything, and they spread the wrong kind of information." "After extensive personal research I reckon the optimal
amount of hash to use in yer recipes is around 0.25/0.3 gram. I use polm for it."

How dare you talk so much nubee shit . Get a life , get a brain and get some experience of the real world before you talk about things you dont understand . The bigest recorded account of someone eating hashish i can find is about a french foreign legion soldier in moroco , who ate 100 grams , in the days when hash was hash , and was reported to have woken up after 3 days ..... WITH A SMILE ON HIS FACE . The effects of small amounts ( the same or less than one puts in a joint ) of hash are mainly psychological , placebo . One needs to eat more than one normaly smokes as smoke goes directly from the lungs to the brain . When one eats it it gets diluted in the stomach and takes longer to be absorbed .So one has to eat more than one usualy smokes . Remember the paranoia here and false storys about Peganum harmala being dangerous in 10 gram quantities ? Then one learns about people who eat the same quantities when they have belly ache and people who have eaten 150 grams with no ill effects ? Or the stupid stories that MOAIs make Psilocybin stronger !!!! Old wives tales . Hokus pokus fidibus abracadabra simsalabim .

"Don't you realise what happens if beginners read this and believe you!?"

YES THEY GET "HIGH" . Do you realise what happens if they believe what you say THEY GET PARANOID .

"This is why it goes WRONG sometimes"

Does it ? When and where ? Does it go wrong for you ?

"Because people like you talk like they know everything"

I talk like ME sweety . I dont know everything , i dont claim to know everything either , or make telepathic long distance diagnosis`s like you seem to be doing . Thats like someone who cant read and write thinking no one else can read and write either .

"Yes I don't believe you and challenge you (I bet you OD lol)." "Yes I don't believe you and challenge you (I bet you OD lol)... Why should i pay for the hash, I heard you talking about whole fields full of it???"

What is your definition of overdose ? And what does lol mean ? How much do you bet ? The chalenge was for the cowards and ignorants that dont believe me , that are to frightened to get high . They should prove what they say , put their money where their mouth is . I`m not paying to prove to any one that they dont know what they are talking about .


HOW DO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT GOOD HASH IS ? , PLEASE TELL ME , WHAT ARE YOU COMPAIRING IT TO ? HOW ARE YOU JUDGING IT ?

Test 1 :- The easyest test i can think of for you if you are used to smoking joints is to do this :- Roll a joint and smoke it , then roll another one and smoke that . If you can smoke both then the product is shity , if you can roll the second joint but cant smoke it it was o.k. , if you could not roll the second joint it was nice and if you notice a few hours later that their is a joint with only 3 sucks taken from it lying in the ashtray it was good .

Test 2 :- Take 3 - 5 grams of your product , put it on the table for an hour to get it to room temperature . Then take it on the palm of your left hand , put your thumb from the other hand on top of the piece and close your left hand to a fist , press a little and wait 3 - 4 - 5 minutes . Then using only your hands roll it into a perfectly round lump , it should take 5 - 10 minutes . You should see no seams , no lumps and no edges . Put it back on the table and leave it for an hour . Then take it in your hand and put your elbow on the table and drop the piece onto the table . It should sound a bit like a small peble or piece of ceramic . Try to flaten it , if it is not stone hard it is crap .Then take it and cut it into small pieces with a knife , to the size of small matchstick heads and put it back on the palm of your hand and press it into a perfectly round lump again with no seams , lumps or edges again . If you cant do that then its not good . If you can then their is a chance that it is good .

Test 3 :- Get a normal magnifying glass and look at your product . Do the same with a microscope at 15X reslution AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE . THE TEXTURE , DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SEE , WHAT COLOURS(?) . If you see bits of leaf or hairs from the buds and / or mainly opake(?) white streaks and lumps or if it is always soft its crap .


I OFFER THE CHALLENGE AGAIN TO BIG MOUTHS , BIG HEADS AND COWARDS :- IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME ..... PUT YOUR MONEY ON THE TABLE AND WE CAN FILM IT . I`LL EAT 20 GRAMS OF ANY OF YOUR "HASH" YOU CAN SHOW ME , 50 GRAMS IF ITS GOOD .


LOVE GOD
 
Mr GOD I really haven't a clue what to think of you and your endless rants but they are a big part of this forum for me. One thing I have to agree with you on is the hallucinogenic power of cannabis. You can start saying it's placebo and shit, but when I smoked a fat spliff of quite finely ground weed together with a friend yesterday my mind acted really weird, I'll actually post a bigger story of it because thinking back to it still makes my heart jump for no real reason.
 
I've once ate 2.5 gram of hasj, me and my friend where so stoned that it just hurt, my heart was pounding like a boxer and my friend was throwing up almost the entire time. It was everthing but nice.

Btw, I just made me some Cosmic Yogurt, and its really good :D
Thanx Marc!
 
"my heart was pounding like a boxer"

That sounds to me like the efects people describe that hapen when they have eaten something that was harvested to early , or it , and being sick could be either nervousness / uncertanty or a cut . Thats why i say i am carefull what i eat . I`m not recomending anyone to do the same amounts that i have done , and i warn people about eating "black" "hash" if they dont want the shits or other bad bodily symptoms . Grass , if you know who grew it , is , in my opinion the best bet for most people to eat if they cant get good hash .

LOVE GOD
 
GOD a dit:
"my heart was pounding like a boxer"

That sounds to me like the efects people describe that hapen when they have eaten something that was harvested to early , or it , and being sick could be either nervousness / uncertanty

Nervousness / Uncertanty?? Believe me I've seen the 2 puke, that was their body REJECTING the immense amount of THC being ingested... It had nothing to do with the things you've stated above.
 
"Nervousness / Uncertanty?? Believe me I've seen the 2 puke, that was their body REJECTING the immense amount of THC being ingested... It had nothing to do with the things you've stated above."

Are we back to subjective objectivity again ???

You forgot to say in your 2 sentances "In my opinion" 3 times . Prove it . Show me FACTS about their "IMMENSE"??? THC ingestion . Show me their puke and the results of the lab analysis that would have had to be made about it for you to be taken seriously when you make such subjective claims .


LOVE GOD
 
Entheonaut a dit:
GOD a dit:
"my heart was pounding like a boxer"

That sounds to me like the efects people describe that hapen when they have eaten something that was harvested to early , or it , and being sick could be either nervousness / uncertanty

Nervousness / Uncertanty?? Believe me I've seen the 2 puke, that was their body REJECTING the immense amount of THC being ingested... It had nothing to do with the things you've stated above.
If you eat cannabis it will work on a other level then when smoked.So if your used to smoking it, 2.5 gram can be a real bad boost for your body.


I OFFER THE CHALLENGE AGAIN TO BIG MOUTHS , BIG HEADS AND COWARDS :- IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME ..... PUT YOUR MONEY ON THE TABLE AND WE CAN FILM IT . I`LL EAT 20 GRAMS OF ANY OF YOUR "HASH" YOU CAN SHOW ME , 50 GRAMS IF ITS GOOD .
I'm not really a big mouth, head coward but we have GOOD hasj in our neighbourhoord.. Melena cream from nepal and Ice o lator. These are top quality. I've read great deal about the REAL hash culture where you like to talk about. I know you don't talk bullshit and I even know the melana cream is cut with shite to add weight.. But you also know there is a whole lot of shit on the market so when unexperienced people eat 3gr 3rd grade hasj they can get real sick.

The only thing I can't agree is your theory about smoking hasjiesj compared to eating it. If you eat it the chemical structure(thc) will be changed to a much stronger CBD.

Seems like you have a big tollerance to THC and other molucules in hasj. Me for example are real sensitive so I know the Cannabis trip.
 
@ 'GOD': In my opinion, his statement is as good as yours.. In my opinion, you shouldnt be so ridiculous, 'show me the puke and the lab analysis'.. I know this guy and he know's what he is talking about, in my opinion that is. He was there, and you werent.. and that is not my opinion, but we'll have to believe it. Just like with any other topic on experiences, feelings can not always be put into words properly, and can therefore be easily misinterpreted. So let's not challenge the other to prove every little fact, but share opinions and experiences on the usefull subjects. If people here really want to prove anything properly, it would be a chaotic pile of axioms and references.

@MindAstronaut (&Entheonaut?), have a good time :lol:

PS: Sometimes it's clear that a person is talking about 'their opinion', but still puts it into some objective form. As you can see in the first lines of this post, it doesnt always clarify much of what is said. It is more a matter of convenience, and still everybody can separate objective from subjective.
 
GOD a dit:
Are we back to subjective objectivity again ???

You forgot to say in your 2 sentances "In my opinion" 3 times


I chose my own words when I form my sentences, so mind your own business.


GOD a dit:
. Prove it . Show me FACTS about their "IMMENSE"??? THC ingestion .

Why do I have to proof this? That isn't even possible to prove. Don't you believe Minastronaut when he says he had an x amount of hash?

GOD a dit:
Show me their puke and the results of the lab analysis that would have had to be made about it for you to be taken seriously when you make such subjective claims .

You wanna see their puke?
Well I'll show you the spot where it was about a year ago... You can look for it if you really wanna see it that bad?? :rolleyes:


You are asking me for a lab analysis?
Oh yeah like I was thinking, hmm maybe some loudmouth needs proof if I ever want to tell this story so let's take my sick friend to the nearest lab to get him analysed. :\

Im sick of fighting about nonsense with you, it's a waste of energy. I've made my point and I don't need to answer stupid questions like the ones you ask me. Don't be so ridiculous. You're acting like a child in my opinion
 
Now, lets cut the crap and get back ontopic :)
 
"Isolator" is not "good" hash . It will certainly get you beamed better than most of the other things on the market . You are very lucky to be able to get it . Washing hash has to be done by hand , not with machines or bags , and you have to know what you are doing to make anything good . Its realy good at making bad things smokable , or ok things a bit better , after washing they taste much better , but its not good for making good hash . Washing is what has improved the quality of comercial hash , making it smokable , on the market in europe in the last 10 years . If you look at it at 15X magnification you will see white streaks and lumps of WAX / FAT . When you wash grass you are separating the water soluable parts ( tastes , colour , sugars and soap ), the plant parts and the water insoluable parts = raw hash , wax and fats . The raw hash , wax and fats come through the filter mesh and sink to the bottom or float on the top . This is , usualy , a one quality product = Where you would have normaly made three diferent qualities you now have all three mixed together .

The polinator or the top sieve are good for comercial products , but not for good hash . They are to agressive .

I have said in one of my posts that i dont advise anyone to eat "black" "hash" , because the last time there was good black hash on the market was in 1978 . It stoped when the russians invaded afghanistan . The dealers in holland say that that lasted till 1984 and since then there has been nothing . Often people bring things that they call "charas" , or "parvati" or other cofffee shop trade names , back from india , suposedly hand made hash . But everything one sees today is comercial , made for or by tourists . It`s often better than what is generaly available here , but its not good . Making hand rubed hash is very hard work and dificult . Rubing it is the wrong word . You dont rub it , you caress it . If you rub it you get a hand full of plant juice and broken leaves = shit . Hand made hash is also as clean as the persons hands that made it . = there is a danger of getting the shits if you eat it . Black hash is also very often cut with ???

I dont know the coffee shop trade name "melana" . I do know the name "melange" it means comercial . Google says the definition of the wird melena is :- melena or melaena refers to the black, "tarry" feces that are associated with gastrointestinal hemorrhage. The black color is caused by oxidation of the iron in hemoglobin during its passage through the ileum and colon.

I am not advising people to eat shit . They should , if they want to eat canabis , eat the best that they can get . It would probably be better for most people to make a cake out of grass . It wont get you high , but it will make you nicely stoned . Just dont go to sleep .

If your hash is always soft , even when its at room temperature its cack . Roll yourself a little sausage of it and try to get it to burn . If it wont burn throw it away . If it burns and black smoke comes of it throw it away , its got wax or / and fat in it . Smoke it pure and then look at the ash , with and without a magnifying glass . It should be mainly white if its good . If its a mat grey its cack . You can also see the structure of the parts of the ash . It has expanded as it burnt so you can sometimes see what was in it . Take it in your fingers ands rub it and see if there is any gritty cut in it .

You made statements , you made a claim . Dont words mean anything for you . There are a lot of people reading this , they have the right to the best information that they can get on the subject . Not Hokus Pokus . Not subjective crap . I have dificulty taking you serious . Please stop being snoty and "trotzig" . If you dont mean what you say why do you say it ? What is the point ? The moon is not made of cheese whatever you "Know" .

I think you have definatly not had enough and that you should "Take the third hit damnit!" (-Terrence Mckenna) .

LOVE GOD
 
GOD a dit:
You made statements , you made a claim . Dont words mean anything for you . There are a lot of people reading this , they have the right to the best information that they can get on the subject . Not Hokus Pokus . Not subjective crap.

The best starting dose I advised was based on my own experience (yes subjective) and confirmed (objective) by a book I've read "Uit Je Bol" by Gerben Hellinga en Hans Plomp (if you really want to know where I got it from). I leave it to you to decide wether you find this hokus pokus or not.
 
@MindAstronaut (&Entheonaut?), have a good time
thanx man, it was really nice you should try it..

@ GOD is there any good hasj in europe according to you?
so if you burn it and the smoke is not black and the ash of it is mainly white then its good hasj?

There's some coffeeshops that sells a group of hasj that is constantly from the same growers/makers, it even has its own trade name called Rifman.
maybe commercial but it is some goodass hasj not the crap i ate before :p
but for i claim that it is good hasj i will run some tests for you.


PeaCe..
 
Dude, where do you live?

I am willing to meet, film it when you eat 15 grams of polm dissolved in chocolate milk, I'll film your puking, I'll even take you to the emergency room.

Then post it on this topic.

"Objective" enough?

EDIT: Yes, I will bring along the 15 grams of hash.
 
After reading your post on good hash and starting amounts (i skipped it before because of the big chunk of text) i greatly advise everyone not to listen to you, mr GOD. Although the LD50 is relatively high (like LSD), why do you advise a beginner to take so much?

after all your claims, but also all the crap you talk about how to get good hash and everything here (holland) is shit.. you don't live up to what you ask of other people prove it! prove it!


"It's still THC... You could never compare that with psilo / LSD / LSD / DMT" .

Dont they all have three letters ?

not really an expert on the subject i suppose? this greatly reduces your credibility on the chemical aspects (including body reactions) for me..

YES YOU . I would never eat less than 10 grams as i find it boring . Not worth the trouble . Get your video camera out and put your money where your mouth is and i`ll prove it . 10 grams is a mouse fart . Dont judge other people by your low standards , just because you are to frightened to do something . Like i said i eat up to 50 grams , and that to many times to remember over the last 30 years . I lie on the floor , in a semi dark room , with my eyes closed , legs , arms and fingers open and have FUN for a few hours .

so.. what if.. i dont say i believe you, but lets say some dude tries 50 grams because you advised him to.. he knows the effects of smoking a joint, and thinks its safe to get out on the streets.. how will this end, good job mr GOD.. there are a lot of people that actually get sick when they eat more then a gram, no, im not gonna prove it, just believe me.


they have the right to the best information that they can get on the subject . Not Hokus Pokus . Not subjective crap . I have dificulty taking you serious . Please stop being snoty and "trotzig" . If you dont mean what you say why do you say it ? What is the point ? The moon is not made of cheese whatever you "Know" .

I fully agree that there should be right information here, but you are the one talking subjective crap here..
so how do you know the moon isnt made of cheese, you havent been there.. maybe nasa is talking crap? ofcourse we all now its not made of cheese.. same with hasj, we all know we get stoned from 0,3g of hasj when eaten.. its not placebo.. and if it is, it works fine for me :)

So don't pretend your knowledge is the best around here.. your input is welcome but dont offend people by boldly stating that what they say isnt true.. And be more carefull about what you advise to beginners.

I am not gonna respond again on this topic because i feel i said enough and start to get tired of your stubborness, but i will read your reply..

Have a nice ODay
 
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