Doing normal things on LSD

[Euphoric7]

SWIM has the opportunity to take his (first) hit of acid in a couple weeks outdoors and he has some questions. Is it easy to conceal, or will he appear incredibly spaced-out and giggly (like on cannabis)? Will he be able to look at a clock and understand the time and when he needs to be home? Will he be able to understand a text message and operate a cell phone?

The only drugs swim has experience with is high doses of cannabis and small doses of salvia divinorum. It could be helpful to use these as a point of reference if in any way possible.

Thanx guys.

 

[Nomada]

I think only experience can answer those questions for your friend.

If tranquility in relating with a probably dangerous outside and maybe even the success of the experience is put on a LSD first timer being able to conceal his situation and making phone calls then perhaps different conditions must be met IMO. I sure needed secure space my first time.

I wish you guud luck.

 

[mysticwarrior]

Don't panic if time doesn't exist anymore!

 

[st.bot.32]

Don't panic if time doesn't exist anymore

That's what happened to me my first time. Well.. my first few trips were a lot like Nomada.. I needed an hour or 2 to relax and close my eyes. Maybe if you're going into public, have some place you can go if you need to chill at various points, you might not need it at all or even think about it but it's good to prepare your setting like that, especially for a first time

 

[Euphoric7]

thanks for the replies.
The reason I ask about a phone is because I'll probably be interrupted at various points during the day and it's imperative for me to be able to answer.

 

[Psyolopher]

thanks for the replies.
The reason I ask about a phone is because I'll probably be interrupted at various points during the day and it's imperative for me to be able to answer.

Dude, dont have any duties or responsebilities.....take ur time.
Because a simple concept might be hard to understand since you might be seein it thousand times a second.

 

[Jeniger]

yes exactly

From my experience u will not be able to write text messages anymore,
and u would be lucky if u could remember what the function is of your phone.

If u really have to answer the phone, don't take it try it another time at another location.

it's not a toy

 

[Euphoric7]

Oh wow, I didn't realize it was that controlling from just one tab. So I will totally not be able to function normally at all?

 

[Forkbender]

^One tab can be strong or it can be weak, we cannot tell you anything about that and you probably cannot tell anything about it either.

I find it funny to talk to sober people while on acid. I have no problems behaving normally, but inside I'm seeing all kinds of connections and I make jokes that are funny in 5 different ways of which the other people only understand 1. Ergo, you are a bit out of touch with reality, but can still connect if you try. At the same time it is very personal. None of my friends really like talking to people on acid and it is probably best not to find out on the day itself that you can't manage to do so. Best option in your case from my point of view is to take the acid on a day when you don't have to answer the phone to see how you react to it. But you can try and see if it was irresponsible in retrospect. :wink:

 

[st.bot.32]

Oh wow, I didn't realize it was that controlling from just one tab. So I will totally not be able to function normally at all?

I would say more, overwhelming than controlling. You're still ultimately in control, there's simply so much sensory information coming in that especially your first time it can be a lot. Your senses can cross over, your sense of time can alter considerably. It's definitely more enjoyable when you have no obligations or pressing matters.

It has been the experience of myself and others that a first time trip in particular can totally knock your socks off, you might not even need that big a dose. After you've done acid a few times you'll probably be able to function a lot more on it, depending on your personality and makeup. I have no problems functioning socially on moderate doses of acid now, using my phone and checking email, but my first trip I had trouble just reading and navigating my ipod.

Personally if I knew people were going to call me and expect me to be sober, I'd just spend the whole night wondering when the phone is going to ring. You could try it but if you wait for an evening with no responsibilities or obligations, you'll probably get more out of it and find it even more enjoyable. It's worth the wait, IMO, to do it right the first time

 

[restin]

yes, obligation will fuck you up. At least from what I know from shrooms is that your memory of what you want to do gets fucked up (at least that was with me) and your time perception doesn't exist...I tripped alone and while I tripped I could barely imagine that there were other people walking on this earth....go figure!

 

[Forkbender]

^I just remember my first time. I wasn't able to interact normally for the first 6 hours or so (had a great time, though). But that was a pretty strong blotter. It is such a weird feeling, the first time, like your body is floating and your mind is free.

I acid

 

[Forkbender]

Memory wasn't necessarily a problem in my case, just coordination and making sense.

 

[Brugmansia]

The act of attempting to conceal can feel as bondage to some, it's what you want to cast off when taking acid. But it depends on each one individually.

It's very hard to estimate whether your friend will be in able to set up constructive thoughts to do what has to be done. Dose, personal reaction, expectations, mindset, setting, emotional stability, phase of life etc. However, it might be very well possible to act ordinairy during the trip, but to me it always feels a bit as putting filters around the senses manually.

For a starter, controlling LSD at 100 ug, in a comfort zone, corresponds somewhat with a good dose of mary-jane and most people are suprised by the clear and gentle nature of acid. It's really pleasant to one's body. Starting at the 2nd plateau of the trip.

But keep in my mind the first time definitely falls into the category "Spiritual life change", even 50-75 ug might be sufficient to reach that level in an ignorant individual.

It's very interesting to trip around others unnoticed if you've been through inner self-examination with past experiences on LSD. Just interaction with people, looking in their eyes with a glance, noticing micro facial expressions etc. will stretch out parts of their character through very specific witnessed details. But, don't think you yourself can get away without seeing your own unique habits from another one's mental seat. Accepted imperfection is one of the greatest conditions for a sincere act of compassion.

But first, let him trip to drink the beauty of the perception we have gotten from mother nature.

 

[mysticwarrior]

From my experience u will not be able to write text messages anymore,
and u would be lucky if u could remember what the function is of your phone.

I still remember that on my first journey i was the only one who was tripping in a group of at least 8 people. Because we where going to visit the city and they didn't trust me, they gave me a mobile phone

I didn't even understood why they gave it to me. In the end i never where in need to use that phone. But in fact, i would never have been able to use it

 

[Forkbender]

You'll get better at it with experience. I could probably hold up a normal conversation with my boss while on acid, probably more so than on a high dose of cannabis.

 

[Forkbender]

^not that I plan on doing this, of course.

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

Is it easy to conceal, or will he appear incredibly spaced-out and giggly (like on cannabis)? Will he be able to look at a clock and understand the time and when he needs to be home? Will he be able to understand a text message and operate a cell phone?

I've done the following things on acid (every time one blotter or less) when I was younger and more reckless: engage in a conversation with my mother as I radically reorganized my room, do my math exam and pass, participate in a family dinner in a fancy restaurant, and board an airplane without my fellow travellers noticing, make it through all the checkpoints, buy a train ticket etc. But none of these activities are examplary, as the best way to do acid is in a secluded place where you can close your eyes and just go inward.

But if necessary, it's possible to think clearly and do the needful. For me at least.

 

[tryptonaut]

Lower doses can be quite fun, but if you have the pressure to act normal - that's not good with any kind of psychedelics.

I mean if you have no experience you don't know exactly what dose will be the fun dose for you and what will be the "I can't make sense of what people say to me anymore" dose.
Especially the first time I'd really not do something with too many obligations, too many people or too much stress.

 

[Forkbender]

I think that if you are completely okay with yourself and with the people around you, it will never be a problem. Sadly this is the exception to the rule these days.