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Maybe this will help you . Its a bit old , long and bloated = 800 pages , and i havent read it.......but maybe you can look through it and find some explenations that help you . http://rapidshare.com/files/107696690/fjrzwbvxkgot.rar

An akne-dot about how tricky and secretive hackers are...

Years ago i used to have contact to a group of hackers . If i wanted to contact them i had to send an email to an adress in slowakei and wait . Several times i tried to locate them , and failed . I got as far as this :- their e mails to me came through a firm in iran to a server in China , back to a server in Iran , then to the international buisness school in Oman , then to a NASA server in the US , then to the university of Oregon , then to a server in Amsterdam and then to my server . Their email adress on their replys didnt exist !!!! The software that i wanted came through similar routes but the nearest i could come to the source was a server in Western Samoa .
 
Exactly, the advent of this stuff has really altered the playing field, and the more I learn, the more I want to learn. It's really not near as bad as I thought it would be, I'm just 45 years old, and not always the most patient person.

But when I am motivated, I can learn stuff pretty fast.


And motivation....heh, heh.......( secret weapn #1) :idea:
 
I will put it down to you having a bad day and not shoot back . I can only put things in my words and give my explanations . If you tell me what you didnt like about what i wrote i will edit it for you , out of respect . Obviously you havent understood the significance of what i wrote . With those three adresses i gave you EVERYTHING that a hacker beginner needs to do the deeds with as little risk as posible .

And up till now i`m the only one that has admited that he has experience in the subject . I ofered you a way to do what you want in a few weeks . If you go the way that you and others have sugested = learning all the kiddy shit and learning to programm it will take you years .
 
GOD- Oops....I misseed that.... I don't want to be a cracker, GOD, I really do want to learn programming.....I wouldn't advise anyone who was interested in chemistry to begin playing with hydrogen cyanide gas when they are still learning.... all due respect, that is what I would be doing w/ the computer if I tried to jump in the water that is of that depth right now.

It wasn't that I didn't LIKE what you wrote, I just felt I wasn't ready for it yet.

Check your PM, GOD....,
 
:shock:


SSSSSSHAKE!!!
 
Shake what you have said up till now was usefull but now you are out of line . Spice specificaly asked about hacking , not cracking . Please tell me why anyone needs to learn a computer language to do what i am talking about = how to crack wifi networks and / or web sites . They dont do they ? They dont even realy need it to do small reverse engerniering stunts . To crack programs from scratch they definately do need to learn computer languageS , and as i said it would take about 5 years for a person to learn and understand the skills he needs to crack programs from scratch . I specificaly said that i wasnt talking about cracking programs because there is no need to do it , all the programs that anyone could want are already out there freely available in the internet . Writing your own programs has near to nothing to do with hacking has it ?

" lay off the weed brother."

I am not your brother and i do not smoke weed . Obviously thats the world that you move in . And maybe its a sign for you to take less , clear your head up and stop talking backward shit .

"Now it is our turn to try to give some back"

Exactly , thats why i put my head out of the window ........ because you and other were not doing it . What you said was very good , but you still havent proven what you are talking about . You havent said anything at all about hacking .

Please dont project your anger on me , maybe you should look at the web site you posted . First read my post and.....think about it . Please stop projecting all that shit about me being god , and about how much Spice has done for this site , the three subjects have absolutly nothing to do with each other . Spice knows what i think of him because we have had contact through PM over the last year maybe . Remember , i was the one that offered Spice a place to live for 6 months for free . I also offered to look after him , help him to get a job and to deal with all the formalitys with government departments . I also offered to share my food and money with him .

So after all that i was surprised to read "I'm just 45 years old" . I asked myself why Spice should say that and could only think that he was having a bad day , that i had insulted him , or i thought that he felt that i was patronising him . So i publicly apologised , said that i respected him and offered to edit the bits he didnt like out of my post .

I read all of your post Spice and was under the impression that just lately you were a bit stressed out because of how you had expressed yourself in several threads . I then thought that maybe what was happening in the "what is ego death" thread might be hurting you , because you are standing there alone with your opinions about it . You talk about pain and the others are contradicting you saying that there is no pain . Just to put that straight ........ You are right in what you say . I realised through what you said that there are two good definitions of what ego death is , that yours is valid . I was about to write that in that thread and ask people to stop taking shots at you , even if they were subtle , and say that you are right in what you say . The sort of ego death that you are talking about can be very painfull .

" Obviously you havent understood the significance of what i wrote ."

Shake , and obviously you havent either . Tell me how , where anyone could get a fuller or more complete introduction to the sort of hacking that i said i was talking about . Please use your telepathic long distance super senses and superior intelligence and tell me what was in the last download that i offered and then tell me where he could have got a better introduction to the sort of hacking i am talking about ? You cant because you have opened your mouth without thinking , without having the slightest idea about what i am talking about or what the situation is between Spice and me . No one has downloaded the book , so i know that you havent got any idea about whats in it ?

Please tell me where anyone can get the books that Spice is looking for = about software programming languages , that is better than the adress i gave . Please tell me where anyone can get a better , safer introduction , with instruction manuals and teaching videos , to hacking web sites and wifi net works , or more modern or useful hacking software than at the backtrack web site ? You cant can you because there isnt one . Because you obviously havent got the slightest clue about what you are talking about .

I would apreciate it if you would answer all the questions that i have just asked please . If you stop being snoty so will i .
 
"Please stop projecting all that shit about me being god "

Have you read your name lately?

You refer to yourself as GOD.

I dont claim to be a hacker at all... nor do i claim to have done it... I have read alot on the topic, and i make my posts based on that...

I do however claim to have done a software design course, I have learned programming to a degree and i am willing to teach everything i know about it, to anyone willing to learn.

I know your not my brother. I dont really give a shit how you know spice or what you think of me. I had an opinion and so i voiced it.

Shake
 
Exactly , thats why i put my head out of the window ........ because you and other were not doing it . What you said was very good , but you still havent proven what you are talking about . You havent said anything at all about hacking .

GOD, the thread is called HACKERS/PROGRAMMERS


Did you happen to read those program examples that i wrote?

They were not copied and pasted! It took Hours to write those up and edit it to make sure it all worked... Then describe each line in detail... Using a synthesis as a program ect to make it understandable...

And you sit there saying your the only one who stuck your head out?? When pretty much all you have is a fkn 800 page book?

Im not saying your information sources are wrong... But give me some fkn credit.
 
I switched from a support type of 'career' (network engineering, systembuilding etc..) to being a developer and I am loving it :)

If you want to program for the web, PHP/JS (Ajax) is the way to go in my opinion and, at least in my country, there is plenty of work in that field.


Personally I am very interested in VR/Meta verse development, Second Life for example although I run my own sims for that with more functionality/features. The fun in developing for VR/Metaverses is that your imagination is the limit and there is a cool combination of CGI work (3D modelling/texturing/animating) plus programming. For that purpose C# would be a good starting point I guess.

Also, I feel VR technology will be the next big thing, bigger than the internet once the current tech mafia is done with pushing all those fucking LCD and other screens. Once that is out of the way, you can bet VR helmets will hit the market and when that happens, meta verses like Second Life will become the next big thing in my opinion and there will be a great need for developers with experience creating interactive, 3D environments.

Just my two virtual cents ;)

Love
 
G`day Shake ,

I`m 10,000% pissed of with explaining myself . I had intended to take a pause because of it .....but . I want to get things straight with you . I am a nobody and have nothing to say on this forum , what i say is my own personal opinion . I was glad when you started to explain about programing . Finaly someone understands what they are talking about and can explain it so that even i can understand . I enjoyed the first lesson you gave and am looking forwards to learning more from you . When i said about someone putting their head out of the window i ment someone putting there head somewhere that it can be chopped off by explaining something illegal publicaly and admitting that they had gone along that path , not someone explaining something legal .
 
Thanks GOD.. I apologize for taking a shot at you when i mis interpreted your good intentions..

We are on the same team..

Speak to you later man..
 
hey Spice... I'm learning C++ and I found the tutorials at cplusplus.com very helpful. It's specifically written to guys with no past in other languages and coding so things are explained very well with lots of examples and trying to make the reader get what's really important (the "lessons" of every page are shorter than your average psychonaut.com topic), so I hope you find it amusing and educative, regardless of the language you're learning.

You can start here: http://cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/introduction.html

the very first lessons explain the basic stuff every programmer should know, like variables, loops, functions and other things Shake mentioned...


:)
 
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