Why does Lsd don't work in combination with Mdma?

[Guest]

When you consume a gram of MDMA (powdered crystals)....

hell yeah it's psychedelic.
I think it took me 1,5 hours to consume...

My whole room was spinning, expanding and contracting.
The imagery of my television set came flowing out of it, surrounding me in light waves.

I hounestly can say: I'M NEVER EVER DOING THAT AGAIN!!!

I'm more fan of mushrooms

 

[MindAstronaut]

First you have to separate the environmental stimuli from the experience itself....lights, music and other variables affect the experience.

I have had some of the most realistic visions on pure mdma megadoses, in quiet, dark, Mckenna-esqe spaces.

Try it.

You got me somehow curious about the megadoses.. howmuch do you mean.

Becouse i've only experienced CEV's with 200mg in a quiet room plus it was the first shot of the night.
They are pretty higly detailed visuals if you ask me..
Its definitely worth tryin for future experiments

 

[spice]

Here's the deal....at high doses MDMA, just like MDA, becomes a visionary substance, in a class with mescaline. But there is a good deal of physical discomfort (tending to come and go in waves in my experiences) related to large doses of mda or mdma. Mescaline itself only expresses its full 'mescalinity' at doses approaching a half gram
(400 mg) .

The first dose you take will affect the quality of the rest of the entire experience. There is no way to overcome a weak start. Ala Mckenna,
you must start strong, with a heroic dose. 250-400 mg out the gate,
with supplements as soon as one is physically able....I have probably taken around 2.5 g over a three day period, and it was pretty draining.

A man named Claudio Naranjo was a big proponent of the visionary quaities od MDA. I dont know if his writings are online anywhere, probably not, but they're worth reading.

 

[spice]

.....also, I experienced an interesting phenomenon doing it like this.

Apparently, once your system is 'charged' with mda/mdma, its pretty easy to outrun your metabolism by keeping it in your body. This allows the 'extended runs' with these substances I am talking about.

In other words, once I took a lot it was easy to 'stay there'

 

[Brugmansia]

When you consume a gram of MDMA (powdered crystals)....

hell yeah it's psychedelic.
I think it took me 1,5 hours to consume...

My whole room was spinning, expanding and contracting.
The imagery of my television set came flowing out of it, surrounding me in light waves.

I hounestly can say: I'M NEVER EVER DOING THAT AGAIN!!!

I'm more fan of mushrooms

Either way you have build up an extreme tolerance for MDMA or very poor quality. 1,5 hour is the duration when M just starts about to peak. :\

1 gram is just impossible I'd say since the amphetamine component would rise your heart beat and body temprature so excessively that your heart/veins explode.

Also the increase of the dose won't particulary get more psychedelic, since there is a maximum amount of serotonine available which is just released from your own depots. And hardly comes from the substance itself. It's unnecessary abuse which makes future high's blunt.

Through absorption in the bloodlevels, 7% of the MDMA turns out into MDA.

I have never heard that LSD or MDMA works on the same receptor or any cross tolerance. At least one should feel more energetic, without any spacy vision.

Doing it right, implies taking one dose of 130 mg on an empty stomach and insane euphoria follows lasting for about 6 hours, followed by a day with a state of deep relaxtion and warmth.