Why does Lsd don't work in combination with Mdma?

[Djones]

What's the reason exactly that Mdma is not working at all after taking Lsd?

 

[Guest]

Hmmm, my guess is that it's because the 5-HT2 sites are already occupied, you'd need to take the MDMA before the acid.

But have you tried it out and felt nothing or are you basing this question on an assumption or something somebody else said?

 

[Psychoid]

Also, did you try it more than once? Maybe you just had a bad pill...

 

[dangoo]

hmmm... i had once very good lsd and pure mdma... and as far is can remember i took some mdma after consumed the lsd, and i had a really a nice going go go... so i guess it depends what you took.

 

[Djones]

Hmmm, my guess is that it's because the 5-HT2 sites are already occupied, you'd need to take the MDMA before the acid.

But have you tried it out and felt nothing or are you basing this question on an assumption or something somebody else said?

I've tried it myself yes, and didn't notice anything from the Mdma.
But I didn't know about the quality tho.

Also on another occasion, I had Lsd the night before, but didn't notice Mdma that day without anything taken befoore that night.
The day after I took the same Mdma again, and it did work, very nicely btw.

 

[Lion]

Take LSD, then take after exactly 4 hours 2 pills of pure MDMA.
Have fun

 

[pastyputridpulp]

2 pills of pure MDMA.
Have fun

Why 2 ? Isn't one enough ?
Yeah I don't support double drop... 8)

 

[dangoo]

well, as for my experience... lsd made me a lot more sensitive for the mdma i took after... don't rush it all in to fast... always nice to make it a good climax

 

[Lion]

2 pills of pure MDMA.
Have fun

Why 2 ? Isn't one enough ?
Yeah I don't support double drop... 8)

I think when you buy MDMA pills one mostly contains 500 mg, right?
So one good mdma dose would be 1000mg, right?
So that's why 2.

 

[Entheonaut]

2 pills of pure MDMA.
Have fun

Why 2 ? Isn't one enough ?
Yeah I don't support double drop... 8)

I think when you buy MDMA pills one mostly contains 500 mg, right?
So one good mdma dose would be 1000mg, right?
So that's why 2.

Uhhm no 500 mg of pure MDMA is very uncommon, and if you would really take 2 of them, you'll be in for a ride. I think you mean the pill weighing 500 mg? Not being 500 mg pure MDMA? Right?
You can't tell anyone to take 2 pills because you don't have a clue of how much MDMA would be in them...
I've seen MDMA pills range from 20 mg till 200 mg +...

I've taken a dose of 250 mg of 85% mdma crystals once, and then dropped 200 mic acid right after that.
After a while I started tripping balls and I took another 200 mic 2 hours later.
It was a blast and was a great experience, but I find "candyflipping" not as intense as dropping the same amount of acid without the MDMA. Doing LSD with MDMA is like tripping on a psychedelic on "easy mode". It doesn't go as deep as a pure psychedelic.

 

[Lion]

What is a standard dose for MDMA then?

 

[Psychoid]

shrooms and MDMA is a better mix I guess... pretty strong combination!!!

 

[spice]

Lion-
According to Dr. Shulgin, a 'standard' dose of mdma is ~ 100-120 mg, with an additional supplement at ~ 2Hours.

I'd advise that these are good doses as an introduction. I find a dose of about 160 mg with another 160 mg at 2H about right for me.

The range of effects change as the dose increases. MDMA becomes much, much more than an entactogen at uber-doses. It is as good as anything out there, psychedelically, but not at entactogen doses.

Try about a gram spread out over 12 hours or so.

That's what I'm taliking about.

 

[spice]

Also, this is why formulating a pressed pill is an art form. All pressed pills are inferior to pure powder. Period.

A pressed pill is like a 'time-release' version of x.

It is 'schwag' in pothead terminology.

A pill of 500 mg is 80% GARBAGE. (and this if they're 'good' ones)

These fillers and binders slow and impede absorption.

Powder is king.

 

[Entheonaut]

The range of effects change as the dose increases. MDMA becomes much, much more than an entactogen at uber-doses. It is as good as anything out there, psychedelically, but not at entactogen doses.

Try about a gram spread out over 12 hours or so.

That's what I'm taliking about.

The "psychedelic" effect of a gram MDMA over a long period of time is not really the MDMA experience if you ask me. I think what you experience is the high amount of MDA in your system (Because MDMA metabolises into MDA).

 

[spice]

Ahhh, but it is....its the 'blend' of mdma and mda which makes it magic. Just because a small (~5%) amount of it metabolizes to mda, that doesnt negate the fact that you're ALREADY in mdma-space, but the addition of the small amount of mda does add to the psychedelic effects.

Let me put it another way;

There is no way to separate the two. There is no such thing as a 'pure'
mdma experience in the sense you intimate. There is always the influence of metabolically derived mda.

 

[Entheonaut]

Yes that's true :wink:

 

[Lion]

I remember when we used to do it, we allways had pretty pure MDMA crystals.
So 1 gramm in a baggie. And yeh we used to sip it in one night too.
The taste is horrible, but it was fun, and intense too. But is it really spacy?

I mean, what's the psychedelic part of MDMA?

 

[spice]

First you have to separate the environmental stimuli from the experience itself....lights, music and other variables affect the experience.

I have had some of the most realistic visions on pure mdma megadoses, in quiet, dark, Mckenna-esqe spaces.

Try it.

 

[MindAstronaut]

I mean, what's the psychedelic part of MDMA?

The part that you talk so openly and freely about personal things, the way
that you look at those things is in a other perspective if you ask me.

But also the empathy towards others, and sometimes the visuals you can experience with closed eyes..