What would you tell your kids?

[Mara]

This thread is inspired by "the future of drugs thread". When I was reading all your replies I immediately thought of children, as they will be the biggest influence in the future once we're drooling and back in diapers.

So my question is: What would you tell your children about psychedelics and drugs in general? Would you involve a God/source of divinity? Is there a "right" age to start teaching them about drugs?

Fire away :heart:

 

[Space-is-the-Place]

Eeeeehm should I be worried by this question :roll:
(haha, just kidding :mrgreen

"Here take this, it will tell you all you need to know"

 

[user_1919]

Don't directly tell them about psychedelics, more less teach them to find truth, right, and wrong on their own.

 

[Space-is-the-Place]

You've got a point there, except for the right and wrong, there is no right and wrong.
There is 2 ways to look at something.

But yeah, I think it's important to teach your kids how to think, not what to think (like what they tell you in most schools)
I think at the right age it's good to share your views on the world, but without saying:"This is how it is"
They can find their own truth.

 

[HeartCore]

It depends on the question.

 

[aryaman]

If they'll ask me something about psychedelics, I'll tell them everything they want to know, without pushing them to do it or, at the opposite side, stopping them.

About other drugs, such as cocaine, amphetamins, alcool ecc., I guess that would be usefull to talk about them when my kids arrive to a possible-consumers age... just to inform them.
Is the best protection I can give them

 

[restin]

I agree to most of you. I wouldn't talk about psy at all and if I realize the kids are interested - I'd tell them what I know.

 

[UniversalConsciousness]

There can be a lot of paranoia when you use illegal consciousness expanding agents, but lying to your kids is the last thing you want to do. As Terrance Mckenna would say, be straight with your kids. You don't have to encourage them to do it, but remember like wine, you can slowly introduce small quantities when their younger, like for example a small quantity of cooked pot, but if you want you can just wait till their say 15 years old to use it to expand the mind. You don't even have to bring up the concept of mind alteration, just at least be honest and if you set a certain rule then whatever. Be reasonable, be flexible, float lighter. That's the way you bring about revolutionary social and cultural change.

 

[Space-is-the-Place]

but remember like wine, you can slowly introduce small quantities when their younger, like for example a small quantity of cooked pot, but if you want you can just wait till their say 15 years old to use it to expand the mind.

THC and Alcohol are shit to the developing brains, I think this is the worst idea ever.
17 or 18 would be a good age to start with cannabis, but before, it's a really BAD idea.

 

[Getafix]

So my question is: What would you tell your children about psychedelics and drugs in general? Would you involve a God/source of divinity? Is there a "right" age to start teaching them about drugs?

It all depends on the point of view of the parents. If they believe in a God or source of divinity, they will probably include that in their explanation. And if the parents use drugs in moderation, their children will likely learn from them that all drugs are ok when used in moderation, although certain drugs carry a higher risk of addiction, legal trouble and overdose.

Personally I'm not teaching my children about God or a source of divinity. I'd rather focus on teaching them things that will help them to properly understand "divinity" later on, like mathematics, biology, history, music, English etc.

My children (7 and 9) both know the general effects and risks of these drugs: tobacco, alcohol, coffee, cannabis, shrooms and ayahuasca. But children don't need drug experiences. Sometimes their parents do, but that's another matter.

I think a small dose of acid would be the gentlest way to introduce a young person to the psychedelic experience. It's difficult to say at what age the child would be ready though. Or when the parents are ready to guide their children through such an experience.

 

[Meduzz]

Health would my main concern.

THC and Alcohol are shit to the developing brains, I think this is the worst idea ever.
17 or 18 would be a good age to start with cannabis, but before, it's a really BAD idea.

+1

 

[magickmumu]

I know that within the different ayahuasca groups it's not uncommon to give childeren of every aga a small amount of ayahuasca.
It doesn't seem to harm these kids.
Personally I would like to wait till he or she is 21, If I where a parent.

About the source divine. I am very thankful my parents did not teach me any religious believe.
They wanted me to figure it out for myself.

 

[Getafix]

I know that within the different ayahuasca groups it's not uncommon to give childeren of every aga a small amount of ayahuasca.
It doesn't seem to harm these kids.

I know, but they give such a small amount (a teaspoon or something similar) that they don't purge, have visions or experience a significantly altered state of mind. The emphasis is on the religious aspect of the Daime (Ayahuasca), not its psychoactive potential.

 

[Mara]

Very interesting replies here. Thank you all very much.

I think that when my kids would ask me the right questions, just like Heartcore said, I would answer them the best I can, without marking anything as true, I would definately make clear these are my own perceptions. But I also think that our children will ask those kind of questions earlier, just because we may sometimes have mushrooms/pipes/herbs lying around. Or would you guys hide anything that has any link with drugs?

The only thing that still spins my mind is the fact that psychedelics aren't really accepted by this society. So there is a big chance they will also start talking about what you have taught them in schools/amongst friends.

Would you guys introduce them to their first psychedelic experience? Or a first joint maybe? And at what age?

 

[Brugmansia]

I'd teach them extensively about frank feminine fondness and calculated masculine hardness. Whether it is DNA or a simple social intercourse, proper knowledge and sense of gender combination is the deepest bottom of life.

From there on, I'll inform them about the frames where humanity has put this into to serve it's own will with it's subjective existance, which can be math, science, politics, history, religion, language and what not.

Whatever they choose to follow, I'd teach them how to pass the gate within themselve with cacti, mushrooms and ayahuasca. These tell about compassion, health and fertility.

I'd be a bit more sceptical about them trying cannabis, LSD or MDMA before their 20th. These require some more guidelines to be aware of.

 

[Getafix]

Or would you guys hide anything that has any link with drugs?

I keep things out of reach, but not hidden.

Would you guys introduce them to their first psychedelic experience? Or a first joint maybe? And at what age?

Definitely not their first joint, let them have that memorable experience with their best friends. But as a parent you don't just introduce your children to drugs, you introduce them to a culture, the psychedelic scene, with its many branches both modern and ancient.

 

[Lucien]

I would probably do it the way Eve's parents did in this experience story. http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v07n1/07140fam.html

- Lucien

 

[Getafix]

MDMA, not much of a challenge...

 

[Brugmansia]

MDMA, not much of a challenge...

It is a crippled inset to include Huxley's perception to an MDMA experience. Even LSD correspondents only partly with the character appearance of mescaline.

The phenethylamine component of MDMA is only flat, and it has no profound content. Principally carried out through the release and serotonine which has no chance to dive back into the cell.

Either way if used wisely, it can make one aware of a further spiritual path since it's very gentle and pleasurable. But worshipping it for too long ends where one originally came from.

 

[Getafix]

Either way if used wisely, it can make one aware of a further spiritual path since it's very gentle and pleasurable. But worshipping it for too long ends where one originally came from.

I think it's better if children abstain from MDMA and other substances that may be considered "easy pleasure" or "instant happiness".