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What exactly IS a psychonaut?

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random a dit:
...in an endless list of questions and doubts.
(...)
But as I said, do we ever catch the draggon?

Well do you people want the list to end? Personally, i don't care if we ever catch the dragon.

of course, it's ambiguous.
the idea that we will never catch the dragon, makes the chase kind of futile.
 
Well do you people want the list to end?

Yes, because the monkey in our mind can't stop checking that list again and again. Beeing fully aware that we are not the monkey may greatly help to not care about that useless list.


I guess that beeing a psychonaut has nothing to do with understanding the mechanism of the monkey (the mind). As Caduceus said, it is allowing the subject travelling thru the psyche. But everyone do that at least during sleeping. The difference between 'everyone' and psychonauts is that the psychonaut do it intentionnaly and if possible he try to remember what he explored, althought it is not obvious. Making a map (remembering the explorations) is a way to reduce the anxiety of the unknown.
Eventually understanding how the mind work can be usefull for a purpose or another but is'nt it pointless when it comes to 'just' live your life ?
 
Maru a dit:
Eventually understanding how the mind work can be usefull for a purpose or another but is'nt it pointless when it comes to 'just' live your life ?

yes, but that's the intriguing part. who knows what the monkey will do when he's done checking that list? maybe i'm just using the metaphor out of the context...

why shouldn't you think about things that seem pointless?

i've also been thinking that when we have mapped out the entire soul, what technologies will come hand in hand with those discoveries? it could all go fucked up. science-fiction mind reading, mind control,...

oh forgot, they already have television for mind control :lol:
 
Meduzz a dit:
random a dit:
...in an endless list of questions and doubts.
(...)
But as I said, do we ever catch the draggon?

Well do you people want the list to end? Personally, i don't care if we ever catch the dragon.

Actually I do, and I care. If I didn't want it or care about it, it would be pointless to try to understand the depths of, my, mind and the infinite that surrounds me.

Maru a dit:
I guess that beeing a psychonaut has nothing to do with understanding the mechanism of the monkey (the mind)

Well I think it has something, if not in the most part, to do with understanding the mind and his mistery.
I think a psychonaut it's a person who enjoys exploring his own mind and the reality that his shown to her (even if that person doesn't come out with an statement to explain, to others, what ever was felt on one of those moments of exploration of Life or Mind or.. you name it)

Anyway, I think it's pointless to say what is or isn't, considered, a psychonaut. Or else we will start to see a list of rules and conditions to be considered one. :P

Maru a dit:
Eventually understanding how the mind work can be usefull for a purpose or another but is'nt it pointless when it comes to 'just' live your life?

I think that everybody 'just' live their lifes, or else they would be death.
I mean, if you just want to eat, work and sleep, well thats a choice, and your living your life in your own way doing nothing interesting and challenging.
But, living a life and at the same time trying to understand the meaning of it, I think it's much more lovingly beautiful and challenging for the mind.

Meduzz a dit:
why shouldn't you think about things that seem pointless?

If they are pointless, to you, why should you give it a second thought?

Meduzz a dit:
i've also been thinking that when we have mapped out the entire soul, what technologies will come hand in hand with those discoveries? it could all go fucked up. science-fiction mind reading, mind control,...

Seems like you DO care about catching that draggon! :D
 
random a dit:
Seems like you DO care about catching that draggon! :D

yes yes, i have tought about it, but i'm not pro-catching and not contra-catching.
that's what i meant. just because the outcome is quite unpredicatble

random a dit:
Meduzz a dit:
why shouldn't you think about things that seem pointless?


If they are pointless, to you, why should you give it a second thought?

that was a reaction to maru, who said it was pointless
 
random a dit:
But as I said, do we ever catch the dragon? :P

Heroin Hero, the ultimate first person shooter! :mrgreen:

For me knowing it's there is enough.
I don't want to understand everything, I'm more into enjoying the bizarreness of it all :D
 
Space-is-the-Place a dit:
I'm more into enjoying the bizarreness of it all :D

agree, that's what i meant with "the walk in the unknown forrest" :)
 
Space-is-the-Place a dit:
random a dit:
But as I said, do we ever catch the dragon? :P

Heroin Hero, the ultimate first person shooter! :mrgreen:

For me knowing it's there is enough.
I don't want to understand everything, I'm more into enjoying the bizarreness of it all :D

Neither do I (or do I?)... but I always try to stand more on the depths of my mind. Try to go deeper and deeper.
If I do or do not catch the draggon, well I don't care much about it to.. But I hope, we, as one counciousness that we are, catch it one day! :)
What I do care, is to try to find my own Truth.

Anyway I think it's more challeging, for me, to enjoy Life and his misterys and at the same time try to understand it.. (I don't mean everything, but what I feel it needs more than a second thought).
 
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