What does time weigh ?
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There is no time reference, the only reference for comparing how fast time flows in another place is how fast it flows on the actual place.
Time is weird, I barely understand it, the only thing I can say is that "time speed" doesn't exist, it only does if we compare to somewhere else.
The previously "paradox" I explained is the time paradox, when you say "No it takes half a second ." you're right.
But imagine a frozen place where inside this place 1 year is 1 second of "here time".
Would you say "time flows million times faster out there" or "million times slower ?"
That's the big question for me, I can't answer this.
As for the black holes, I have absolutely no idea how mass can affect time. Maybe mass can deform space, and so space deform time because they are linked, but that's pure fantasy, those are physic questions, not philosophy.
Time is weird, I barely understand it, the only thing I can say is that "time speed" doesn't exist, it only does if we compare to somewhere else.
The previously "paradox" I explained is the time paradox, when you say "No it takes half a second ." you're right.
But imagine a frozen place where inside this place 1 year is 1 second of "here time".
Would you say "time flows million times faster out there" or "million times slower ?"
That's the big question for me, I can't answer this.
As for the black holes, I have absolutely no idea how mass can affect time. Maybe mass can deform space, and so space deform time because they are linked, but that's pure fantasy, those are physic questions, not philosophy.
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We are talking theoreticaly and time is relative to where you are looking and measuring it from .
"mass can deform space, and so space deform time because they are linked"
Exactly . Through gravity = time space must have a weight / mass and / or an electrical charge .
"mass can deform space, and so space deform time because they are linked"
Exactly . Through gravity = time space must have a weight / mass and / or an electrical charge .
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You say that a "time particle" could exist ?
I just realised why I was right when I thought for the first time that time never existed, it's a "mind-conception" variable necessary to be able to consider every change of condition of matter or ideas.
Time is an objectively non-existing reference that mind needs.
Maybe the "time" is slowed down near a black hole just because matter is slower itself due to extreme physical conditions, not because time is slowed down.
I'm a genius.
I just realised why I was right when I thought for the first time that time never existed, it's a "mind-conception" variable necessary to be able to consider every change of condition of matter or ideas.
Time is an objectively non-existing reference that mind needs.
Maybe the "time" is slowed down near a black hole just because matter is slower itself due to extreme physical conditions, not because time is slowed down.
I'm a genius.
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"on location B time flows at a rate of 2 seconds every second"
1 second is 1 second , so you must mean in location B 2 seconds flows in relationship to position A in 1 second looking from A at B . = if you look from position B where 1 second is also 1 second at position A it apears to an observer in position B that in 1 second the 1 second in position A has taken half a second .
"I meant "point of view"
So did i . Stand point .
"english isn't my native language neither is it yours"
My mother is english , so is my brother and i have spent about 22 years living in england . Thats also why i understood the humor of the web site you posted in the other thread in 5 minutes .
"How would you know? The devices to measure time are also bound by the speed time goes in the place they are used."
Exactly . See above .
"But imagine a frozen place where inside this place 1 year is 1 second of "here time". Would you say "time flows million times faster out there" or "million times slower ?" "
In their time it flows normaly , in our time it flows faster .
"You say that a "time particle" could exist ? "
No .
"Time is an objectively non-existing reference that mind needs. "
No . Time exists as a part of time space . Space couldnt exist without it . For us , with our senses time is only now , and the future and the past dont exist . But the past did and the future will as a series of nows .
"Maybe the "time" is slowed down near a black hole just because matter is slower itself due to extreme physical conditions, not because time is slowed down. "
That would imply that there is a time particle . Time is a measurement of change relative to where one is standing . I think to a person in that position it would not be slowed down . ( Thats ment theoreticaly , at a point . If he went in feet first his feet would be moveing at a totaly diferent rate than his head and acelerating away from his head ) .
The weight / mass of a black hole bends space time . I dont know why . Thats what i want to know . If i have missunderstood something and / or explained it wrongly please explain it to me . I`m not arguing , i`m trying to get explenations for something i dont understand .
1 second is 1 second , so you must mean in location B 2 seconds flows in relationship to position A in 1 second looking from A at B . = if you look from position B where 1 second is also 1 second at position A it apears to an observer in position B that in 1 second the 1 second in position A has taken half a second .
"I meant "point of view"
So did i . Stand point .
"english isn't my native language neither is it yours"
My mother is english , so is my brother and i have spent about 22 years living in england . Thats also why i understood the humor of the web site you posted in the other thread in 5 minutes .
"How would you know? The devices to measure time are also bound by the speed time goes in the place they are used."
Exactly . See above .
"But imagine a frozen place where inside this place 1 year is 1 second of "here time". Would you say "time flows million times faster out there" or "million times slower ?" "
In their time it flows normaly , in our time it flows faster .
"You say that a "time particle" could exist ? "
No .
"Time is an objectively non-existing reference that mind needs. "
No . Time exists as a part of time space . Space couldnt exist without it . For us , with our senses time is only now , and the future and the past dont exist . But the past did and the future will as a series of nows .
"Maybe the "time" is slowed down near a black hole just because matter is slower itself due to extreme physical conditions, not because time is slowed down. "
That would imply that there is a time particle . Time is a measurement of change relative to where one is standing . I think to a person in that position it would not be slowed down . ( Thats ment theoreticaly , at a point . If he went in feet first his feet would be moveing at a totaly diferent rate than his head and acelerating away from his head ) .
The weight / mass of a black hole bends space time . I dont know why . Thats what i want to know . If i have missunderstood something and / or explained it wrongly please explain it to me . I`m not arguing , i`m trying to get explenations for something i dont understand .
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That's completely right. What I said is completely wrong, but also true.
I just wanted to point that paradox of human brain:
If there are two positions, A and B and when we're on A we can say "time is flowing twice slower on B cause 1 second here is 2 seconds there"
consequence =>
If we were on B, we would say "we're taking twice more amount of time than if we we're on A ! time goes twice faster here !", subjectively, that's true, but objectively, it's going twice slower.
It's not really a paradox, but it's like it was.
For the black hole, maybe the massive gravity acts by preventing any particle from moving, giving the impression that time is freezing.
And if someone could go there, his body would also be frozen, every atom being trapped in a slow motion area of space due to too much gravitons blocking every motion of everything that has a mass.
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Scientist assume that in black holes there's a complete absence of matery. Even light can't escape from a black hole. A black hole may even dissolute into a bigger sized black hole.
Although the big bang must have had his very first matery out of a complete black hole to start the energy outburst so this interfenes with the theory that black holes are completely materyless.
But what's in a black hole if there's no matery to measure, it has always fascinated me.
Although the big bang must have had his very first matery out of a complete black hole to start the energy outburst so this interfenes with the theory that black holes are completely materyless.
But what's in a black hole if there's no matery to measure, it has always fascinated me.
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Ah !!! Another psychonuts dick size contest ????
I did say before that i cant use durex because they hurt me so much and split underneath from the bottom to the top . I wasnt joking . If you send your mom or girlfriend round we can see if she comes back to you.......
I did say before that i cant use durex because they hurt me so much and split underneath from the bottom to the top . I wasnt joking . If you send your mom or girlfriend round we can see if she comes back to you.......
