Trying to convince my girlfriend

[Goran.Hrsak]

If this would be conversation between physical bodies you would certainly feel my smack on yours cheek. This is not your fault and you should place that blame out of your mind. There she was in particularly time and place. You anyway had intentions going to the Rave party and she has ask you to take her. SHE ASKED YOU E! BUT YOU HAVE NOT GIVE IT TO HER!! REMEMBER THAT. CAUSE YOU FEEL RESPONSIBILITY WHAT HAS COME OUT AT THE END. SHE DECIDED TO DO THAT! GUILT CAN EAT HUMAN SOUL. MAKE SHELL OUT OF TEMPLE.
Anyway she were emotionally fucked up. This is why she used so much drugs in short period of time. I am surprised because she is not dead. I have also see such endings. Too fast to furious. But mind can't take it. I hope that she has clean herself from that kind of behaviour, abusing psychedelic drugs. Psychotic episodes and suicide come out of it. From high E abuse.
I say first sentence in figurative speech. I was not your fault. PEACE.

 

[kmad]

Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the positive comments. I like this community.

I've talked it over with my girlfriend, and I apologised for being passive-aggressive about the whole thing, but I did tell her that it was really important to me that we take a psychedelic journey together.

As a psychonaut, it honestly is, so I wasn't deceiving her. I laid it out there for her, told her that she probably wouldn't be able to understand my life perspective unless she took this trip with me, and let her know my doubts about a successful relationship blossoming if we couldn't share this experience that's so important to me and so much a part of me.

I went out of my way to not make it sound like a "do drugs or I'll break up with you" threat but I have a gut feeling that that's how it came across.

In the end, she told me that she's open to doing mushrooms, but not LSD or MDMA because they're synthetic. She'll let me know when she's ready, which she said would be likely this summer, and I promised not to bring it up anymore until she does.

if she beleives in god. tell her god made it just like he made u and me.

We're both atheists with a spiritual slant. That wouldn't work. I like to use that argument when I'm having drug debates with fundamentals, though. What's that bible passage, about all of God's herbs and seeds being for us to use?

Show her some good information about psychedelics.
I wouldn’t go about convincing anyone to take anything, let alone a psychedelic.
So leave it to her to make that decision herself.
All you can do is provide information,
And there’s plenty of that on the internet.

I plan to do this. I didn't research the drug before I tried it, and I had a disaster trip because I didn't know what was happening and tried to fight it. I don't want this to happen to her.

Has she had any experience with Cannabis? Usually after many sessions with Cannabis, you get curious what other psychoactive substances are like. Maybe she needs something to draw her attention towards mushrooms. I would suggest getting high off Cannabis a few times, and just talk about the trip while she is high. If you can put it in the right words, almost anyone would want to try mushrooms after. But don't force her if she really doesn't want to, as she may have an bad experience her first time if everything is to crammed in. By the way, where about in Canada do you live?

She has smoked weed from time to time (her younger brother is a major stoner, her brother's friends are dealers) but no more than a couple times a month at the most.

Oh, and I live in Vancouver, BC.

Don't talk her into doing a psychedelic drug for the first time on a festival where she is in an unknwn environment with a lot of unknown people.

Of course not. If our first time would be at the festival, I'd take her into the adjacent forest where we'd have solitude and tranquil surroundings, away from the permeating bass of the electronic music. Still, I doubt it would be there. I've spoken to her about taking a couple grams at a local flower garden. You know, good vibes, positive, spring-time environment. She seems to like that idea.

I do not know how old she is. This is very important!

She's 22, I'm 23.

Ecstasy

I'll suggest ecstasy to her, but she seems adamant about avoiding synthetic drugs. It's a mental block for her and I don't want to push it.



Once again, thanks for all the positive comments.

 

[silv]

IMHO I'd say don't bring her tripping up again, it seems you might have sparked some interest in her and she'll ask you about it when she feels she's ready. Leave the seed you planted to grow and bloom and it'll go naturally and smoothly!

just my 2 cents.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

KMAD say to her that shroom is something which is the best choice which she has picked. Not so hard, if you give her normal-little lower dose, max 5 hours of peak and 3-4 more coming up and down. The best choice.
Give her address of this forum. Here she can place questions and find out more bout everything. When summer arrives she is going to be well informed psychonaut. And 23 years make psychedelics act on so different basis then on person with 15! Control is much higher and understandings or feelings are in positivly way much different. PEACE

 

[st.bot.32]

>because they're synthetic

reminds me of how i felt at one point, synthetic==hard drug and therefore bad in my mind back then, but i had never researched and really knew nothing about psychedelics. eventually, a year after an accidental but successful "trip" on cannabis, and becoming more and more curious, reading researching on my own i eventually did a tab. and nobody pushed me into it, they were trying to almost persuade me not to try

each will follow their own path of course, i'm just naturally curious..

 

[socraticallikat]

Sorry Goran , in England they say drop some acid or pills and mean swallow it . She wasnt married , she was divorced and walked up to me and talked to me in the park . I said i was going to a psytrance party and she asked to come with me . She didnt realy have any knowledge of drugs and had never been to a party before . After about 5 minutes there she wanted to try E and i said slowly , slowly , dont rush into it , find out what it does first . She waited till my back was turned = i went to the toilet , and five minutes later she took some , then some more , then some acid , then loads of coke = everything she could get her hands on in as big amounts that she could get all mixed with masses of speed , Ghb , 2ce , alcohol and cannabis . She started to go to partys from thursday evenings untill monday mornings and thought that she could trust everybody . She ended up walking around in a party naked and being fucked publicly by 12 guys . She made big debts and landed in a psychiatric hospital . Poor girl , i did my best , it wasnt my fault . She was just another person who wouldnt listen , who thought that she new better and fucked her life up .

and drugs are bad mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I don't know what you sad?! :wink: Peace