Trying peruvian torch for the first time

[st.bot.32]

.. sometime in the next couple weeks when I have time to trip out. What I bought was 30g of powdered cactus.

I am thinking of eating 20g to start with (what the person who gave it to me recommended from experience)... then waiting a couple hours to see if i need more.

Does this sound about right?

Also how long would such a trip last, 6-8 hours?

Will be reading some huxley during the comeup to put me in the right frame of mind i think !

 

[Lion]

i am most curious to your report my friend..

save trip, light's speed

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Use it whole! Do not hesitate! Mescaline cacti grow at home aren't so "filled" as nature ones!
So use it in tea! Cook it for one, to one and half hour on low fire. Filtrate the brew and first eat the sludge. Wait 45min and then drink all of the tea you make!
Trip will last (if you have prime stuff) 12 hours and maybe 3-4 hours more. This include going up, peak and going down and awakening to full reality. 8)

I can't wait how will you experience and wrote bout this in next post, or here? 8)

PEACE
LIGHT
BLESS

 

[st.bot.32]

Thanks.. I will indeed post back here afterwards! Hope I have a chance to try it soon.. all winter I had so much free time and now the intersting stuff is coming my when i'm outrageously busy (but i'm not complaining!)

 

[st.bot.32]

I think I'm going to try 20g of powder tonight after work. My room mate should be asleep by the time it kicks in, as it takes what, 4-6 hours to get going..

 

[user_1919]

Eat the full 30 grams. 20 grams would be a light dose, and what are you going to do with the other 10 grams?

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Lion]

Eat the full 30 grams. 20 grams would be a light dose, and what are you going to do with the other 10 grams?

PEACE & LOVE

^ second that

 

[Ultima]

yeah take the whole 30, i recommend parichuting all of it. that way you get the whole dose, and not having to worry about the taste. (i personally dont mind it but a LOT of people dislike the taste)

 

[st.bot.32]

Thanks, all. I did indeed take the full 30g on an empty stomach. It was still a very mild experience. After about 3 or so hours I had some sort of threshold visuals (noticing blocky and facial patterns, shifting textures) and when I went for a walk it felt like I had incredibly clear, precise peripheral vision. Basically it reminded me a lot of a threshold acid dose, but the headspace was quite different. Very clear, calm, serene, soothing are words that come to mind. I completely lost sense of time after about 4-5 hours, went for a long walk that was an hour but felt like 5 minutes.. My imagination felt very clear and lucid, i remember at one point having some sort of personal insight into what I felt the force called god was (in a sort of pantheistic way)..

In any case I quite enjoyed it, it was somewhat rejuvinating even.. but after 6-7 hours or so it was starting to dissipate and I wished it would go a bit farther than it did. Maybe next time I ever have time to try it I will go for like 40g ( if it is from the same batch) or something..

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

80 GRAMS!!! I know that you are disappointed. I were also, but this is "house" cacti, and you will never find mescaline trip in it! Of course you can always join the team who is going to visit Peru! This will be your manifest! 8)

 

[user_1919]

Goran: I have a question. What is the difference between natural growing cacti, and house hold cacti? What environmental factors are different when they grow in the natural setting than when it's a household cactus. I still have two San Pedro, about 14 inches long. I am currently rooting them, and I plan on planting them in my backyard. I live in Canada, but it's not cold as many people think. Our day's get up into the high 90's durning the summer. I would like to increase the mescaline content in my cacti, so would it be better off planted outside, than keeping them inside? Also how much water can San Pedro tolerate? If I plant them outside, and it rains for a day or two, I would be scared about root rot.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Sorry with delay. I have deleted this post accidentally.
Every cacti have his own unique environment. Just as Lophophora and Trichoricereus mescaline alkaloid accumulation specie. I do not know truly right conditions for tricho and lophopora temp-moist-soil. I know those for home growth.
Peyote in Canada outdoors doesn't have chance as you probably know.
Tricho maybe have living conditions from middle spring to middle of fall. But this is also questionable!

Mine cacti&succulents knowledge is acquired through the books, Internet,Great cacti grower who is let's say," my mentor", botanic professors, couple of cacti sellers and herbalists. And "my mentor", botanic professor, books and many Internet sites tells you-me that cacti from home garden isn't near the natural one! And that is "gods" truth!
I have tried once ONE PEYOTE, SIZE OF FIST-APPLE, WITH 23-24 YEARS AND THAT CACTI HAS BEEN NORMALLY CULTIVATED, NO CUTTINGS OR GRAFTING, HUGE ROOTS! AND WHAT HAPPEN?? SLIGHTLY ELECTRIC FEELING, EXCITEMENT AND SOME DISTORTIONS. CACTI WEIGHT WAS SOMEWHERE NEAR 160-220TEN GRAMS!!!

NEXT TIME I TRY THREE OF SAME SIZE-AGE-WEIGHT. EXPERIENCE WAS SIMILAR TO 1GRAM OF SHROOMS. BUT I HAVE GET PICTURE HOW MESCALINE WORKS. ELECTRIC STORM WERE IN ME AND ROUND ME, WEIRD LIGHTNINGS BLOWS WHEN MY EYES WERE SHUT. BUT ALL THAT WASN'T NEAR TRUE ASPECT OF PEYOTE POWER.

SO THIS IS MY CONTRIBUTION TO THE THESIS THAT HOME GROWN PEYOTE CAN'T MEASURE WITH NATURE ONE! :!:

I WILL TRY CACTI CEREMONY ONCE MORE WITH PEYOTE. FROM TEN, 26YEAR OLD PEYOTES I WILL MAKE TEA OR SOUP. MAYBE I HAVE MADE MISTAKES FIRST AND SECOND TIME WITH USING BECAUSE I USED THEM AS HALLUCINOGEN! NOW I WILL GO TROUGH THE WHOLE CEREMONY. OF COURSE I WILL POST IT.

SO DO YOU BELIEVE ME NOW WHY HOME GROWN ISN'T LIKE NATURAL?

PEACE
LIGHT
BLESS

 

[user_1919]

SO DO YOU BELIEVE ME NOW WHY HOME GROWN ISN'T LIKE NATURAL?

Yes, and always have believed you

 

[Brugmansia]

Have 5 experiences with San Pedro. With 20 cm, 2 x 40 cm and one with 80 cm.

80 cm lasted about 24 hours, 40 about 14 and the 20 cm just 8.

I just love the bodyload and extreme subtle effect in the mind. As sweet as rolling tongues with a beloved one.

Somehow I had points where I just said artifical sentences spontanous that could be used in a poem.

It is no wonder that poetry's and writers have found their work while on a cactus. Mental activiteit is no interruption. Unlike acid and shrooms.

It pretty easy to stay clear even on a strong dose. When laying down, the extreme colours seem to appear. When looking at the environment, everything seems to glow and is seen crystal clear.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

It pretty easy to stay clear even on a strong dose. When laying down, the extreme colours seem to appear. When looking at the environment, everything seems to glow and is seen crystal clear.

This is exactly what I experienced! But this is only threshold dose!

Sorry User_1919, my question were rhetoric, it wasn't question at all!

 

[st.bot.32]

I definitely hope I have a chance to try it again, and a larger dose next time as well. Unfortunately I don't really have any time for 12-14 hour trips these days..

 

[Guest]

20-30 g 0f cactus (dried) sounds abot right. its best eaten if you can deal with its bitterness. i put it in mincemeat (christmas pie type) to try to hide the taste. it doesnt work.the effects make it worth while. youll have fun

 

[Brugmansia]

It pretty easy to stay clear even on a strong dose. When laying down, the extreme colours seem to appear. When looking at the environment, everything seems to glow and is seen crystal clear.

This is exactly what I experienced! But this is only threshold dose!

Sorry User_1919, my question were rhetoric, it wasn't question at all!

To me, the cactus seems to get much stronger with closed eyes and lying down. The the entire field of vision and thoughts are about to be build up.

As long as I stand or keep my eyes open, it doesn't really matter how much I'd take, it's just relatively subtle effect.

On my 80 cm trip I had been walking a bit in my room and I felt extremly 'pumped' and my body was featherlight. Every step I made was a bizar moment of joyness. No gravity from earth.

But man, when I meditated, AHHHHHH....

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I do not mean to disrespect your experience and looks on cacti as hallucinogen. You felt threshold dose which is wonderful by itself but true voyage and falling into insight of essential being which shows up on true dose is something else! Something which you haven't felt. Me also!
I know that those true experiences aren't for me so unmeetable! Why?
Cause I have six 26-27 years old one Peyos. But I can't use them, I am not prepared, time isn't right and my mind isn't powerful enough to except Peyo meeting! If I take them now, only hallucinogenic effects would occure!

Can you tell me have you maybe been in some kind of electric storm? Like strong impulses from subvisual lightnings? With here&there outbursts out of mind into couple visionary pictures? :?: 8)

 

[Brugmansia]

No.

At the peak point there were colour balls that exploded and disspeared into colourful stars in the night and later vanished as glitter tails in silver, purple, red and blue. I have been gone extremly deep and through meditation I stepped through white light.

But they were no visionairy images apart from a extended and way more real displayed fantasy. Though I felt static with hardly any gravity, but not electric. There was no a storm.

Peyote works much different and stronger than San pedro. I have never had a peyote consumption. It's a bit silly that it's rare and an extreme amount is needed.

Though I'm gonna use crystals, do you know by any chance or 600 miligrams will lift me up to that level, Goran? Since it's merely one alkaloid and synthesized. I thought about injected it rectally to save material...