Trip-E (happy-caps) bad experience

[Spaceman]

Hi there!

I bought some trip-e pills wich contain Baby Hawaiian Woodrose, Passion Flower, niacin, Guarana, magnesium stearate, L-arginine and L-tyrosine.

I took 2 pills yesterday on an empty stomach around 2.45pm.

Around 4pm I began to feel a little numb, nothing else. went to the beach with a couple of friends and smoked a joint.

At 4.45pm I wasn't feeling a thing, except for a little nausea. Decided to go home and eat some bread because I've not eaten anything in 14 hours.

When I stood up, the problems began... I felt extreme nausea and I thought I was going to pass out. I managed to go home and ate some bread, but I was really really sick. I layed down but it was of little use, I had an intense feeling of deja vu. My face was really white, and I was ready to pass out. Drank some water with sugar, a little more bread and some rice from my friends lunch.

I layed down again and tried to remain calm.

Around 8pm I began to feel alright again. I was weak with the lack of food, but I was feeling alright. I ate more rice and fell asleep till 10am today.

I didn't trip, I only felt pain. What gone wrong? Perhaps high blood pressure? I count 68 heart beats per minute today.

It was my first time with psychedelics. I only have smoked cannabis and tried salvia extract for a few times but it didn't do anything.

Suggestions?

 

[user_1919]

The main thing that got you high in those "happy caps" were the Hawaiian Baby Woodrose(HBWR)...and through my experiences all I got was intense naseua and leg cramps. I dont like them at all. My suggestions are to stay away from those and maybe experiment with mushrooms or lsd.

 

[Guest]

Well, Trip-E didn't do ANYTHING at all for a friend and myself, but as you just said, it contains HBW, which can be a *bit* hard on the stomach...

Looks like you're sensitive, anyway I +1 that you should go on with lsd or shroom, all those "legals" highs are mostly disapointing...

 

[user_1919]

I forgot to mention that Passion Flower is a MAO, this could have had a bad reaction with what you have ate in the last 24 hours. What did you eat before, this is most likly the problem and the HBWR attrubitued to it.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I is only moronic person put passion flower with L-tyrosine. This can in large dose or in lightweight people or even inexperienced psychonaut liver produce serotonin syndrome. Can you describe yours physical effect and mental more detailed? :?:

 

[Spaceman]

I weight 69kg and have 1,83meters tall. I'm a slim person.

Two hours after I took the pills the only thing I felt was numb body, but no big deal. 45 minutes after I smoked the joint, I began to feel nausea.

I had drunk a couple of beers in less than 24hours. Could be it?

or...

Because I was weak with lack of food, the joint caused the bad reaction on me?

For the next 4 hours I felt sick, with low blood pressure in my head and with a strange pain in my stomach. Besides that feeling of low blood pressure in my head, my mind was perfectly ok.

After those 4 hours, I began to feel alright again and very quickly, but was still weak maybe because the lack of food.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

No man nausea wasn't from cannabis or lack of food. What you have XP was light serotonin syndrome. High pressure can easily be replaced with low one and again with high. Do not take those pills again. Only tip from friend. Second time maybe you will XP something more uglier and even live treating!! Take care.

 

[Spaceman]

Will do that, then.

How about the consumption of lsd, mescaline or shrooms? Can they have the same effect on me?

 

[BrainEater]

I guess the problem was the combination of consumption of some stuff.

For example as stated above for example passion flower is MAO-Inhibitor or something, which means it stops the decomposition of aminoacids in your body, from which one is serotonine or the transmitter stuff in the brain, which makes you trip in the end, because they are not decomposed and therefore felt longer. At least that's how i thought it works.

The point is that if you take MAO-I's in combination with other acids or substances or food that contain them, which are harmful for your health, they aren't decomposed and therefore can even KILL :!: you. Even normal stuff. Like cheese or pineapple. You can google that if you're interested which food or substances are dangerous for you in combination with MAO-I's. So better inform yourself rightly before you consume drugs, that you aren't sure of or what can happen with mixed consumption referenced to food and drugs.

I don't know if what i wrote makes sense in this situation to say, but anyway i think it's good to know! If i wrote shit please correct me!

Greetings

 

[Spaceman]

after searching for serotonin syndrome in wikipedia, I remembered that I had some muscle tension and a little agitated mind on that day, yes.

Sounds like I have a problem. What can I do?

 

[Spaceman]

I guess the problem was the combination of consumption of some stuff.

For example as stated above for example passion flower is MAO-Inhibitor or something, which means it stops the decomposition of aminoacids in your body, from which one is serotonine or the transmitter stuff in the brain, which makes you trip in the end, because they are not decomposed and therefore felt longer. At least that's how i thought it works.

The point is that if you take MAO-I's in combination with other acids or substances or food that contain them, which are harmful for your health, they aren't decomposed and therefore can even KILL :!: you. Even normal stuff. Like cheese or pineapple. You can google that if you're interested which food or substances are dangerous for you in combination with MAO-I's. So better inform yourself rightly before you consume drugs, that you aren't sure of or what can happen with mixed consumption referenced to food and drugs.

I don't know if what i wrote makes sense in this situation to say, but anyway i think it's good to know! If i wrote shit please correct me!

Greetings

I know of MAO-I's in combination with some food, that's why I did the caps on empty stomach. I only ate bread, rice and drunk a cup of water with sugar, nothing else.

 

[BrainEater]

There are is for sure things you can take maybe special vitamins or maybe fruits i don't know you can try to find out on google.

Anyway if you had muscle tension and an agitated mind on the day you took the pills, it might just be that you felt it a lot stronger, because of the potentiating power of the drug.

I'd recommend to relax body and mind and find out why you had that, or if you have it often, i even recommend it more to do that.

Well depends, i don't know how is your muscle tension and the agitated mind, but in general that would be my advice.

greetings 8)

 

[Spaceman]

One more thing that I consider important.

I'm usual a bit nervous person. I've always been. And in that day I was relaxed before taking the pills.

I noticed that since that day I am much more calm and relaxed then ever. I don't remember being this calm in my life and it's been a week since I took the caps.

It's like my nervous system was soften in that day.


Is there a meaning in this?

 

[BrainEater]

I can put some meaning in this. 8)

Dunno if it is reliable, but i'd say you've maybe solved something within you by going through that trip , that made you a less nervous person, which would be good.

It could be that you solved it by just feeling the suffering in yourself during the trip and therefore letting the nervousness go or let it go a bit more.
You might say you solved it through your body?! Dunno....!!! Therefore as you said it maybe softened you're nervous system which i find kind of funny, because you said you were usually a bit nervous person. What a great pun 8)

You might say, too, that you had some kind of insight, that let you evolve during the trip.

Just my view of it. Could be different, too!!

If you really did it, and apparently you did, i find that amazing in this reference, because the drug gave yourself the possiblity to grow, or solve problems in yourself.

Greetings!

greetings!!!

 

[BrainEater]

I know of MAO-I's in combination with some food, that's why I did the caps on empty stomach. I only ate bread, rice and drunk a cup of water with sugar, nothing else

Yeah, but what i meant is more like the contents of the pills, could have had some shit in it, that brought the bad effects either alone or through the combination of some food you ate or maybe something that was still in your body. But again that was just the idea, i'm no specialist at all.

Because i heard that some of those pills really contain substances which are no good.

 

[ZOF]

i've had normal HBW seeds a few days ago, and damn, they are like pure poison!! the stomachache was terrible... when i drank the seeds the back of my head began to hurt very much, then i became ill and this terrible feeling in my stomach.... though after an half an hour the trip was beautifulll!!! I'm going to do this again for sure!!

 

[twicon]

i had once those ''purple ohms'' ,i really thought they would work as i got tricked by the overstatements on the package ''psilocybe like trip..'' and ''dont exceed recomended dose (1 capsule). i started with one, after 2 hours took the other 2 and the result was i felt only mild nausea and tired.
2nd ''legal x'' experience (after research) was on some ''latest BZP-free neurotransmitter technology'' called neuro blast.
just a mild headache.
havent tried bzp pills tho, but not interested to try either,i would want max 2-3 times a year a stimulant-euphoric-intoxicating effect and i dont think mdma would hurt me :wink:

 

[Meduzz]

i don't like LSA either, it just makes me feel empty and spacy. Its boring...

spaceman, don't bother about that bad experience. a lot of people get fucked up experiences from LSA, but they turn out allright.

don't waste time and money (and health) on those "legal highs".
try mushrooms or cannabis if you want to explore psychedelics 8)

 

[afer]

I've experienced with the LSA a lot [the ones i tried were the morning glory seeds, not hbwr] and it turned out to be quite strong when as regards the psychedelic effects. Every time I ate them [200+], I tripped. Neverthelss, I often had the feelings you described- cramps, nausea, and overall "bad" feeling.

LSA was assayed for human activity by Albert Hofmann in self-trials in 1947, well before it was known to be a natural compound. Intramuscular administration of a 500 microgram dose led to a tired, dreamy state, with an inability to maintain clear thoughts.

(taken from wikipedia)
I suppose that the abovementioned "tiredness" is associated with LSA, not with MAO inhibition. There's no way to prevent it. Ginger helps against nausea, but that's all you can do.
I'd say stop poisoning yourself with such legal shit and stick to shrooms, acid and weed. These ones won't make you feel sick and won't damage your health, providing fantastic experiences, not comparable to LSA. I know how hard it is to come by a reliable dealer, but it will pay off in the long run.

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

i had once those ''purple ohms'' ,i really thought they would work as i got tricked by the overstatements on the package ''psilocybe like trip..'' and ''dont exceed recomended dose (1 capsule). i started with one, after 2 hours took the other 2 and the result was i felt only mild nausea and tired.
2nd ''legal x'' experience (after research) was on some ''latest BZP-free neurotransmitter technology'' called neuro blast.
just a mild headache.
havent tried bzp pills tho, but not interested to try either,i would want max 2-3 times a year a stimulant-euphoric-intoxicating effect and i dont think mdma would hurt me :wink:

What is 'BZP'? Explain for detailed reply. And I have described drugs in couple of ways.

A: By effects.
B: Natural or semi syntactical/syntactical.
C: Specifically/defined action or unspecific/undefined action.
D: Chemical structure, and/or kind of amides types which is mimicked type(1-tryptamine, 2-norepinephrine or phenyltilamine, 3-tropane, 4-dibenzopiran-or THC, 4-aromatic ethers/oils.
E: Region from where is drug origin.
F: Addictive(physically at first) or Higher brain damage(lack of physically addiction).
G: Uppers
H: Deppresors
I: Psychedelics