The link between happy and sad?

[Psyolopher]

Once you label me you negate me.
Søren Kierkegaard

Anyway, yes i will on Monday!
Thanks for your concern!
God, you're right!
And noddy, where's your topic?
Thanks for your concern, i guess im the one who cant comprehend my 'illness'

 

[restin]

I understood that and I agree. I didn't go to a doctor because I didn't want to. And it is a personal choice if one doesn't feel good with the life he lives. I rather want such a life than a flat and boring one. And I also advice going to a doctor if you don't feel right. But reading some info won't hurt, IMO.

 

[Oknayd]

When i started at a new school in 2006 i finally took the first steps to grapple my depression i had for a long time, i went to my school counselor and luckily he was a very cool guy, no judgemental crap etc.
He said I had the choice to go the the school psychologist or go to my doctor and get an recommendation for some form of therapy. (or do nothing about it offcourse but for me that wasnt an option, 2 years were already wasted on this crap)
I then went to see a hypnotherapist and basicly i can say i had some pretty serious breakthroughs. I'm not on school anymore but i'll still work on my art and dreams. I stopped seeing my hypnotherapist some months ago and have the feeling i cant get anything out of it now, it reached its peak or something.
What i need now is more basic and practical stuff like bringing a little more structure in my life, getting more off my arse as god said so well

good luck to you, i hope all works out

 

[IJesusChrist]

Here:
Everyone has BiPolar Disorder.
Don't fear it, it is the natural order your brain does. You have waves, just like in trips, of serotonin and dopamine, they are natural waves...
You will always have happy and sad, because without 1 there is not the other.

It also depends on what you think about when your down, or when your up that contributes to diagnosis...

Most people who have been diagnosed with BiPolar disorder often have downer periods, where they start thinking about bad things, and it's like a chain-reaction, where it's very hard to get back and out of it.

Usually when you notice your sad / happy, you're at the peak of this natural wave, and will slowly go up or go down...

The waves are not, however, uniform!!

You will have big waves, small waves, and stable periods... everyone does. It depends on your surroundings, what you eat, if you excercise, etc.

Like they say... Eat healthy and excercise.
This brings back your natural and "prehistoric" instincts, being healthy and eating when your hungry, not just whenever...

My theory is: Eat when your hungry, and when your down, excercise, do something.

It works for me, and keeps me more stable!

DONT WORRY!

 

[greggha]

Bipolar disorder is one of the most mis-diagnosed mental illnesses by health care professionals. I have seen many people i know, who have been diagnosed with it by simply stating they have depression lasting 1 week or more.

As with other mental disorders such as ADD, bipolar's symptom's are the same as what any normal human being would experience, except not chronically. Therefore people complaining about low attention spans will be diagnosed with ADD and have pharmaceuticals prescribed; and those complaining about short-term depression or even long term (which isn't actually bipolar) will be diagnosed with the disorder (bipolar).

Mental illnesses are very complex and hard to always reach an appropriate solution, so doctors often jump to quick conclusions. Never jump to a conclusion and stick with it, be open minded, and always try to stay positive (although that can be very hard when depressed).

 

[tryptonaut]

I know when you're really depressed it's impossible to "think positive" however when the depression isn't that strong I think you can try the following (I'm trying to do it and I think it's already working): ban negative thinking from your mind. Negative thinking is the most useless thing you can do with your time. There is an appeal to delve into negative thoughts and melancholy. Fight it, keep the negative thoughts away by all means, they won't do you any good.

 

[restin]

But surpressing negative facts isn't the solution either. I can go out, have a good time, get drunk and high and wake up in a dilirium the next day with a week-lasting depression.

Everyone has BiPolar Disorder. Very Happy

Well, it's a matter of extremes, isn't it. Everyone has a bad time sometimes but not everyone has a depression. Everyone can get a depression if something bad happens (someone dies e.g.) but not everyone can get depressed if he only misses the train. It's a hard diagnose but I think it still exists.

 

[IJesusChrist]

But surpressing negative facts isn't the solution either. I can go out, have a good time, get drunk and high and wake up in a dilirium the next day with a week-lasting depression.

Everyone has BiPolar Disorder. Very Happy

Well, it's a matter of extremes, isn't it. Everyone has a bad time sometimes but not everyone has a depression. Everyone can get a depression if something bad happens (someone dies e.g.) but not everyone can get depressed if he only misses the train. It's a hard diagnose but I think it still exists.

It is, everyone has bi-polar tendencies, it's just in what degree. Just like "A.D.D."...

And I have completely abolished negative thoughts, it's hard to do, because you forget sometimes how to get out of it... I'm starting to do it too. As soon as a bad thought process comes on, I just blank my mind, think of nothing. Bad thoughts in general are just you, your going to hit them.

Your brain is a use it or lose it mechanism, so I disagree with "Suppressing bad thoughts doesn't work either"

I think the less you think about them, the more you think about positive, and the more neutral you will become.

Bad feelings although... they are chemicals, not memories and physical structures in the brain. Re-occuring bad thoughts, chronic bad trips, that is physical memory in the brain, and can be abolished with the "use it or lose it" notion.

 

[restin]

Your brain is a use it or lose it mechanism, so I disagree with "Suppressing bad thoughts doesn't work either"

yes, it filters "interesting" and not interesting information. The break up with a girlfriend is quite "interesting" but it is still a bad thought (well,depends :wink: ). So it is quite impossible to lose that memory (you can but that's not healthy :wink: ) but you still only are able to suspress. Until your next girl breaks up and you need to surpress the depression of two events. That adds up until it is impossible to surpress your thoughts and THEN my friend you are fucked.

 

[Carebear]

"And THEN my friend you are fucked" :!:

 

[magickmumu]

how many girlfriends is that.
(before you get fucked) ????


Sadness is not the same as depression. When your GF breaks up you have a reason to feel like shit.
(or not It depends)
When someone you love dies you have a right to be sad. (example)
It becomes unhealthy when you become sad for no apparent reason.
When you have (what they call) world sadness. Or no feeling at all.

I never experienced real depression.
I never felt bad (psychological) for more then four day's.
I never had the feeling described as feeling nothing.
When I was younger I found it harder to control my emotions. I had big mood swings.
One moment I was perfectly all right and feeling happy the next I was crashing head first into a pool of negativity. At that time I was living with my mother and brother. My parents where just divorced. I experienced mental breakdowns. I had a heavy load of anger towards the world.
I could explode in anger smashing up things, or start to cry when confronted with my inability's.
(My brother was a little smarter and got himself a punching bag)

This is all in the past now. I grew older and I got a girlfriend. I discovered the mushroom and noticed it made me feel good about myself. I discovered being angry and sad was like addiction, that I needed to quite. One the one hand I felt bad, but on the other I was secretly enjoying the head space I was in. I tried to tackle my anger outburst by centring myself and calming the mind.

I am still not at peace with myself now, but years have past and I feel much much better now.
I don't want to waste my time on negative shit, so I will continue to work on myself.

Faith, hope, love.
|Corinthians 13:13
(I am not a Christian, but I believe in these three principles.)
http://academic.udayton.edu/vernelliara ... y/Love.htm

Peace

 

[Carebear]

I am still not at peace with myself now, but years have past and I feel much much better now.
I don't want to waste my time on negative shit, so I will continue to work on myself.

I`m with you on that!

Today i was a mess... Just making myself crazy with fucked up thoughts...
But i always find back my peace somehow, i can`t get hung up in negativity. It`s so easy being negative...

 

[Toxica]

I had some kind of bipolar disorder, moreover, I was threatened.
But in fact I thing the happiness can be sad and the sadness can be happy.
Depends of many factors.

My story is sad... because I've found myself in myself and in Univerce, started to feel all the vibrations of the world and feelings of people, I've become almost fully integrated with my own higher me... then I started to love everyone and everything, i mean I felt the universal love... and I was happy almost all the time.

But after threatment It has almost gone... It is starting to recover, but not the same, and so slow...

 

[Toxica]

PS and of course I continue to work with myself too...