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Something is off. -- Now its a convergence.

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Schwanke668

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Can any body else feel it?

I'm picking up a change that I cant seem to process.

If you have no idea what I am talking about then chances are your not on the wavelength that I am feeling this on.

Thing is the wavelength I'm feeling it on and the wavelength I'm on are two different things at the moment as I seem to have a sense that if I were on the wavelength that its happening on I would be sucked into the change kind of like a vortex and its not my time for that yet.

Still. I can feel it.

I think I might be feeling partially a progression of the evolution of this board atleast the english side of things. There seems to be a mass flow and a general fluctuation that are symbiotic at the moment.

Whats Ironic is I see a correlation between the bees and the lack of notifications of new messages. Go figure.

I think I feel a gathering too. A focusing. Like a water hose nozel on a fire hose.

Convergence. Thats the word I was looking for.

Convergence through diversification.

Picking up pieces of synergy as well.

As a side note being that I believe that all minds are connected in reality through psychedelic space I wonder if you tune yourself properly you can feel the waveforms of people who trip at different times through out the week. Like is there a mass waveform transformation on the weekends or on major holidays depending on country. How do the waveforms change from location to location or language to language. Just curious.
 
Well, I am certainly part of the English side of things.
And my secret plans have certainly moved forward tonight...
 
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Jamapricotica a dit:
^Do you mean: Just recently? or more like this decade or several years or so?
Because I've been having the same feelings for a few years. Maybe in correlation with the internet or psychedelic drugs and their most recent effects on all our minds?

Its multi-dimensional. I see 'things' fractally most of the time so when I see a change I see it at the micro and macro level both backwards and forward in time. Like at the end of your message here. These things make sense without words.

That having been said I have definitely felt it on the board. I know I havnt been here long but at the same time I can pickup on other people's perceptions sometimes and draw on them as if they were my own even if they dont know they are perceiving it. It would be kind of like if I had access to a tarot reader and the tarot read the death card and went 'thats funny' and could see something but couldnt figure out what. I might be able to see it even if I havnt read the card itself. To a degree I have done this even without any conveyance what so ever of the person intending it to be read. Its not REALLY telepathy cuz its not actual thoughts, its like a 'sense' in another realm that I havnt been able to nail down yet yet I suspect is the realm of psychedelia.

So I have a 'feeling' based on the interpretation of the 'mass sensing' of 'change' on the board from people who have willingly or accidentally allowed me to access their perceptions of the flows of the board. The comment that set me thinking was what IJC made about the board being alive and loving it. That struck me harder then just a comment. When he said that I 'heard' a whole bunch of responses to the effect of "wow", "Thank God", "Its about time", "Whats next", "Why Not".. etc... coming from a variety of sources.

At the other end of the granularity level I was in a deep other-worldy slightly apocolyptic-writing conversation with my old mentor when she came back to visit and we talked about several things that indicate that the world is in a transitional state at the macro level. Particular indicator we discussed was how there are 2 to 4 different maya-era civilization with no ability to reach each other in the natural creating calenders that end sometime between 2010 and 2012. We discussed the posilbity that the world is going to go through a major spiritual shift that will make interpretations of new changes harder and harder. Combine this with the discussion we had about a singularity in the next X years and I wonder if maybe we are going to have a spiritual singularity of somekind or at least a psychological one or a mix.

Schwanke668 a dit:
I wonder if you tune yourself properly you can feel the waveforms of people who trip at different times through out the week.

I can't see this as an impossibility. Our minds (and psychedelic thought/states of mind) seem to depend very directly on matter and it's flow and transformation. But to tune into specific waveforms would seem very difficult and require superhuman amounts of concentration and control. But I don't doubt for a moment that there are gurus/shamans and the like who are able to exercise the very extreme of, I guess you could say, mind travel.

Well if you factor in the possiblity of a sentient being as God and his desire to enable his disciples to do supernatural things, it might be possible for common man. Even taking my personal views of that God being Jesus out. 90% of the points of God's and Goddesses in other religions is bestowing power on people so you could figure there might be people who can get their superbeing relations to enable them.


Schwanke668 a dit:
How do the waveforms change from location to location or language to language. Just curious.

Language is a physical barrier to an others mind when face to face with them on the street where your understanding of an others aspirations toward communication are based on speech, hearing that speech and body language (and more subconsciously, hormones and such). But the feelings and emotions preceding the language (thoughts/speech) are purer and more basic in their form and therefor are more interpretable to those of other beings if hypothetically you could link minds or tune into others "waveforms".

Like, for instance, how you can speak with cats while under the influence of psychedelic mushrooms :P
;the familiar language associated with external and internal stimuli (matter and it's flow) becomes mundane and too vague to be a realistic way to interpret and explain the infinite amount of change and presence of everything that exists. Feelings and emotions are at their most literal and realistic.

Yeah. I had an experience once where I met this cat out and about that had this one particular sensative spot about 4 inches above and one inch forward from the base of its tail (up in the air). Even if it was looking entirely the other direction, if I touched that spot it would turn around and try and swat me and how rough I touched it it would respond faster or harder. I couldnt get it soft enough to be friendly in that spot. This was the same cat where I was conversing in 'cat squals' for about 20 minutes back and forth. We were responding back and forth with different combinations of pitches and tones that definitely suggested we were having a conversation though probably not about anything concrete kind of like the way we babble sometimes on here.

This all makes perfect sense without words..
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Yeah. Thats why I hate the internet sometimes for this stuff. Cant even do it well on video but I had a boyfriend in college that our body langauge was so precise with each other that we could talk across a room without saying anything or have 3d spacial conversations by moving pieces of 'thin air' around. Had a pretty elaberate one of these conversations with him out in public once at a rave and someone came up to us afterwards and was like "OMG. I've never seen that before. How did you do that?" At the time I didnt even know what they were talking about because for me it was just natural. Thought everyone reached the same depths of psychology through lsd/extacy, wasnt a while later did I find out how many people just do it for fun and to pass the time. (how sad)
 
There will be no difference between a Technological Singularity and a Spiritual Singularity.
They are mirror images of the same event - the unveiling (apocalypse)
Cats are interesting to talk to when tripping.
 
dirk.bruere a dit:
There will be no difference between a Technological Singularity and a Spiritual Singularity.
They are mirror images of the same event - the unveiling (apocalypse)
Cats are interesting to talk to when tripping.

Thats funny. We were actively trying to stay away from saying it might be the return of Jesus. But pretty dead on biblical if all us whacko Christians are trying to avoid predicting the apocolypse and it sneaks up on us and Jesus comes down out of the sky and says "made ya look!".

Though I am not getting the impression that its the end, more of a new begining and I dont mean the 1000 years. I feel this thing that I am feeling at micro and macro level (And I think any psyechedlic discussion group is going to have some predictive format to its discussions) is kind of like stage 4 in a 5 stage process as opposed to being stage 5 the apocolypse.
 
i dont think its just the forum
ive sort of 'felt' something as well
its definately some kind of change
almost everyone i know is changing or going through changes in their lives, including myself
 
Well, "apocalypse" literally means "unveiling".
It doesn't mean destruction - that's just a populist misinterpretation of the word.
Anyway, one might expect something as powerful as the Singularity to create ripples in time.
There is one chapter in my book that I devote to an analysis of Transhumanism in a Christian mythological framework.
It's almost an exact parallel.
http://www.neopax.com/technomage/chapte ... ter11.html
 
Ill let reality guide me back to that link to read that but yeah. Apocalyptic has sort of a literary meaning and then a pop culture meaning. Probably stems from the fact that revelations in the bible is apocalyptic literary writing yet it discusses the end of humanity.

But that is an interesting note because I had learned to describe how I see in this 'nth dimension' as apocalyptic because it so heavily relates to the writing style of revelations and daniels of the bible. I think particularly of the way things are described like breaking seals and opening scrolls and the four wheeled 4 faced angels and what not. Very graphic and very metaphorical yet literal at the same time.

When I am in this 'nth dimension' I see and hear things in a highly metaphorical manor, particularly I focus in the realm of movies and popular sayings and slogans that I call echos. The matrix the movie is full of them (like for example that reference in the other thread about red and blue). If you study the flow of concepts of things such as red and blue throughout society and then see a movie reference it so clearly you can see how 'red and blue' and its sub archetypes are intrinsic components to a macro humanity perception of conversation and communication.

"Why oh why didnt I take the blue pill" could be used by someone in a conversation that suggests that they are struggling with their own unveiling because they did some massive hit of say LSD and now they cant go back to the matrix.

So in that respect I might for example see as i am seeing now people from the psychedelic world mass producing in large quantities red pills and distributing them to society in the form of art and literature.

When I am i a hyper apocalyptic state I see almost entirely in a stream of consciosness of shifting paradigms that flow naturally and that I can only interpret at a later date as I come out of the experience and see my perception of reality unfold.

So this change I think is both macro and micro and I can definitely see how this board and other communities like it would be hosting grounds for a pre-awakening to any sort of mass awakening. If you hold the discussion about psychedelia and shamanism being the same thing, shamanism comes with it a degree of predictive experiences. Not always hard and fast stuff but just general flow from interpreting the signs. If you have a convergence of shamanistic experiencers you might have a cross breading of perception that allows for a micro mass predictive experience of the macro macro experience.
 
Something is off all the time, other things are on all the time.

Things coming off and coming on and changing, switching, mercifully distracting, engaging.

Politically? Spiritually? Consciously? Astronomically?

I'll say it is a phenomenon that when someone says "I feel the past week something is going on" everyone will agree. Not to say nothing is or is not.

The reason you believe (all / any of you) in a singularity happening, is the ignorance to the fact that it has already happened. To look to the future in order to find the singularity is a lost cause - we must find it within ourselves - the present - that it is constantly happening. We are forever growing into and realizing of our singular nature. We have just covered it with our acceptance of the "self" as the important factor, and not the realization of "all is one".

NAH MEAN BRA?
 
I can feel that ICJ but I cant see it. Something blocking me. I tend to attract blocks though though I would suspect by your reasoning here the blocks are already there and I am only noticing them and to a degree they are within me. I can see them as being inside me yet I feel that without of me they are around me and within me they are beside me.

Five ways to solve a problem is to take the sixth solution and remove the equation.
 
I've had the same problem - I glimpse an explanation for a second (even my own) and fail to retain it, as if the vision is lost.

It's a very odd phenomenon. I love it in the fact it makes me strive to learn, to get one more glimpse of earth, so to speak.
 
I feel the same way!!!! and so do a bunch of my other female friends. Is this only picked up by females? what is the deaL???? I cant figure it out, but i just feel like something is off and i feel different than normal.
 
Well women are known to be more spiritually sensative then men most of the time. Dont know why but I know that in most churches in the US the prayer ministry leaders are women and the main prophets ironically are actually women even though they were predominently men in biblical times. Not sure why the shift.

I believe there is a VERY strong correlation between the spiritual world and the psychedelic/shamanistic world. (Considering shaman sites talk about talking to spirits I dont see this as too far fetched.) So I wouldnt be suprised if lots of women are picking up on the changes as well.

Ironically I'm a man but I also have extensive femenin tendencies and typically come across as being a woman instead of a man unless you meet me and see my 2 foot beard lol. So my picking it up still kinda fits in that. Though i am sure some of the other people on this thread are men too so its not exclusive.
 
I lol'd at the women comment.
 
Picked up on it this evening and it nearly shot me through the roof. So far I only have the echo's its causing in my life but its definitely there for sure. So hard core though I havnt smoked anything in 24 hours and had sparks and halucinations in my room that were clearly spiritual and not visual. It was like I was looking at the spiritual landscape as it caught fire.

For one thing one of my mentee's from over a year ago found me a few days ago. He said he had been looking for me and we arent entirely sure why lol.

I picked up another mentee tonight. A muslim that has the same relationship to Allah as me and my wife. (Allah is just the arabic for God its not his name just like Christ means messiah it isnt Jesus's last name lol.) Me and my wife explained his 'gift' as we called it in that conversation for an hour or so and he totally sucked it up and it brought him a lot of clarity.

From these two I got the echo of 'teaching' that is that there is going to be 'learning' and 'teaching' and some will be learners and others will be teachers though many will be both.

There is also the convergence in the sense of a 'gathering' in that my wife has had people come out of the woodwork from her past like my mentee out of nowhere. For her its been old friends coming out of nowhere and finding her or bumping into her. Even on the streets of Australia. People she hasnt seen in years just standing next to her at the bus stop. People she hasnt seen on the computer in years finding her facebook page. That sort of thing. I think I'm talkin like 10 plus in the last week or two but I would have to confirm the number with her. She definitely thought it was 'a lot' to the point of being 'unusual'.

I dont have much more on the gathering except that I feel the 'shift' that I was feeling before was a 'changing of gears'. Like going from 4th into 5th in a car while at the same time what we are doing in 5th gear is going to seem somewhat radically different to some then what we were doing in 4th gear and as near as I can tell the psychedelic=shamanistic people are the ones that are going to be most aware of the 'experience' consciously.

Thats about the best I can convey. Not even sure if any of that makes sense since I am barely on earth right now lol. But hey if its gibberish just ignore me or if your bored make fun of me lol. :D
 
Life is a vortex, all things are converging. Duality coalesces into unity. I can definitely sense an acceleration in the process and the specifics of it are becoming clearer to me every day. I'll attempt to expound on my interpretations of the events that are unfolding.

All over the world there is a line being drawn in the sand and people are taking sides with feet firmly planted. It’s not about race, religion, political parties or any of the myriad of other beliefs that they use to divide and conquer us as a people. It comes down to THE fundamental principle of existence. On one side, you have those who believe that people should be free to live in peace. On the other side, you have those who would force their will upon others through the use of threats and violence. This is becoming more evident every day all over the world. Regardless of all of the rhetoric and fear-mongering on both sides, the only question that anyone needs to ask at this juncture is “What side do I stand on?” It's your choice and yours alone to make, but no one in this world is immune from making the decision. One way or another, duality will coalesce into unity.

It's the basic premise of good vs. evil, God vs. Satan, or whatever other spin you want to place on it. The point is that I believe wholeheartedly that the time is nigh, when we are all being called to make a choice and take a stand. Those people who are feeling a pull, or sense a convergence, or different wavelengths, whatever... You're being called and you need to answer.
 
can you explain why "no one is immune from making a decision"?

i believe that making a decision of "what side to stand on" is foolish. that would be to say that there are actual, real tangible sides. but there are not. find me a physical side to stand on and i might be inclined to choose.

another way to look at it: there is no evil, nor good, apart from how we define it. and not everyone agrees.

things are more complex(simple) than that.
 
Allusion a dit:
can you explain why "no one is immune from making a decision"?

i believe that making a decision of "what side to stand on" is foolish. that would be to say that there are actual, real tangible sides. but there are not. find me a physical side to stand on and i might be inclined to choose.

things are more complex(simple) than that.

I see exactly what he is saying and it has nothing to do with the physical anymore then God or Satan are 'physical' or 'wavelengths' are physical, etc. Sure they interact with the physical from time to time but they are 'other dimensional'.

The physical plane is only one of millions or more planes that people can operate on and ironically enough even though it is the most tangible it is also the most limited. It has taken humanity how long to even evolve the basics of computer technology? When shamans were doing in the spiritual world that type of hyper communication/hyper calculation for hundreds of years.

Physical evolution is the easiest to perceive and also the least useful and most limiting of 'dimensions'. Higher order planes are more versital and powerful then the physical plane. The 'laws' are less limiting and more manipulatable at higher planes. Where you cannot violate the law of gravity in the physical plane you can in other planes purely by will.

Personally Ive felt since I was a small child that our relationship to the physical plane is a test. Its the polar opposite of the plane that God operates on and we are born into it naturally and have a tendency to think its all their is. The test is, "Do you want to see what is beyond your own five senses? Or are you content to live blind your entire life?"

The purpose of all psychedelic experiences is to transcend beyond the physical plane and to understand and operate on the higher planes. Sometimes spiritual sometimes others but the psychedelic takes you beyond the physical. Psychedelic doesnt make you fly it makes you think you can fly. It doesnt send you into outer space it makes you think your in outer space. Yet if you know how to interpret these signs at a planer level they are just as real if not more so then were they actually true in the physical.

Not to hack anyone in particular but if your holding on to the 'physical is all there is' mentality then either your wasting your time on psychedelic experiences or your going to have one thats going to blow your mind because you will finally see how wrong you were all along and at that point 'everything will change.'
 
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