shrooms grown from wheat cereals (or cakes from wheat flour?

[cultist]

Hi all.It took me a while to find this comunity,and i feel good to be in with fellow psychonauts.The question i have is this - can you use grain flour(the regular white flour-bread flour) instead of broun rice flour?Did anyone tryed this?
Thanks.

 

[cultist]

man i cant believe this.not one darn reply,at least to welcome my n00b ass.but anyway i did some research of myt own and found out the cereals name is wheat.
so ppl -- Can we use wheat as a substrate to grow shrooms?or can we make cakes from wheat flour?--anyone anything,no one tryed it?
cultist out

 

[HeartCore]

Cultist,

I never tried it but I guess this should work. To try it, I would use this flout combined with some vermiculite according to pf tek quantities and just try it out.

 

[cultist]

hehe,whats the role of vermiculite anyway?couldnt it be replaced with something else?

 

[HeartCore]

hehe,whats the role of vermiculite anyway?couldnt it be replaced with something else?

Not really. Some people claim perlite works but the majority doesnt think so. The role of vermiculite is to make the mixture loose so there is enough space for mycelium to grow. If you have one clump of flour and you sterilize that, it will be very hard for mycelium to grow through it. In PF Tek, you take around 2 parts verm with 1 part flour, you wet the verm and then put the flour on it. Effectively you grow your mycelium on vermiculite coated with flour.

If you live in Holland, you can get vermiculite in very large amounts for ridiculous low prices btw.

HC

 

[cultist]

what if i use wheat grain and not flour?do i still need vermiculite?

 

[HeartCore]

You dont need verm with whole grain.

 

[Rutger]

As long as their biological grow you can use almost all substrates you can think of. (wood, carton, graines, grasses) the only thing is that some of them work very good and some of them very bad. The whole rye method as discribed on www.mushplanet.com always works for me, but that is probably just personal.