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Scientists confirm sharks 'virgin birth'.

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Another article I read that I thought was awesome, hope you enjoy.
RICHMOND, Va. - Scientists have confirmed the second case of a "virgin birth" in a shark. In a study reported Friday in the Journal of Fish Biology, scientists said DNA testing proved that a pup carried by a female Atlantic blacktip shark in the Virginia Aquarium & Marine Science Center contained no genetic material from a male.
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The first documented case of asexual reproduction, or parthenogenesis, among sharks involved a pup born to a hammerhead at an Omaha, Neb., zoo.

"This first case was no fluke," Demian Chapman, a shark scientist and lead author of the second study, said in a statement. "It is quite possible that this is something female sharks of many species can do on occasion."

The aquarium sharks that reproduced without mates each carried only one pup, while some shark species can produce litters numbering in the dozen or more. The scientists cautioned that the rare asexual births should not be viewed as a possible solution to declining global shark populations.

"It is very unlikely that a small number of female survivors could build their numbers up very quickly by undergoing virgin birth," Chapman said.

The medical mystery began 16 months ago after the death of the Atlantic blacktip shark named Tidbit at the Virginia Beach aquarium. No male blacktip sharks were present during her eight years at the aquarium.

In May 2007, the 5-foot, 94-pound shark died of stress-related complications related to her unknown pregnancy after undergoing a yearly checkup. The 10-inch shark pup was found during a necropsy of Tidbit, surprising aquarium officials. They initially thought the embryonic pup was either a product of a virgin birth or a cross between the blacktip and a male of another shark species — which has never been documented, Chapman said.

Tidbit's pup was nearly full term, and likely would have been quickly eaten by "really big sand tiger sharks" that were in the tank, Chapman said in a telephone interview from Florida.

That is what happened to the tiny hammerhead pup in the Omaha case.

"By the time they could realize what they were looking at, something munched the baby," he said of aquarium workers. The remains of the pup were used for the DNA testing.

Virgin birth has been proven in some bony fish, amphibians, reptiles and birds, and has been suspected among sharks in the wild. The scientists who studied the Virginia and Nebraska sharks said the newly formed pups acquired one set of chromosomes when the mother's chromosomes split during egg development, then united anew.

Absent the chromosomes present in the male sperm, the offspring of an asexual conception have reduced genetic diversity and, the scientists said, may be at a disadvantage for surviving in the wild. A pup, for instance, can be more susceptible to congenital disorders and diseases.

The scientists said their findings offer "intriguing questions" about how frequently automictic parthenogenesis occurs in the wild.

"It is possible that parthenogenesis could become more common in these sharks if population densities become so low that females have trouble finding mates," said Mahmood Shivji, one of the scientists and director of the Guy Harvey Research Institute at Nova Southeastern University in Florida.

The DNA fingerprinting techniques used by the scientists are identical to those used in human paternity testing.

Chapman, who is with the Institute for Ocean Conservation Science at Stony Brook, was assisted in the study by Beth Firchau of the Virginia Aquarium.

Chapman and Shivji were on the team that made the first discovery of virgin birth involving the Nebraska shark.
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By STEVE SZKOTAK, Associated Press Writer
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081010/ap_ ... rk_mystery
 
it's the jesus shark!!!!!!!!! :weedman: haha

well maybe it is possible only in virginia!! :idea: :P
 
I dunno, but sharks freak me out now. :shock:
 
Very interesting. Perhaps female sharks learned to reproduce themselves independently, because mating with a mean male shark is such a risky undertaking.
 
Very interesting. Perhaps female sharks learned to reproduce themselves independently, because mating with a mean male shark is such a risky undertaking.


and human females don't mate with mean males ?
you based your opinion on what, more specifically ?
no shark ever knocked on my door to rob me or shoot me. humans might have done so.
 
^ shark sex can be VERY violent. Investigate it.

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Could we consider evolutionary pressure on shark populations over the last years due to humans reckless incursions and contamination?
From what populations have these asexual episodes been occurring?
 
Dear Nomada,

every animal can be VERY agressive, when it has been endangered. Black widows eat their mate after reproduction. Now, tell me they also practice "virgin birth".
No animal is more agressive than humans. I never witnessed/read about a shark killing another shark for a parking lot. Neither have i known sharks went hunting and taking pictures with their 300 rabbits on the background.


I hope everything is good with you.
 
lol. I'm not saying animals in general are not violent. Have you investigated, as of yet, the rather mysterious sex behavior of sharks?
every animal is very aggressive, but not all are equally aggressive. Each in its own way. Why are talking about humans? are you mad at sharks? :P

all is good. Let's dance.
 
We are talking about agressive-ness, and i "relativized" things, by mentioning humans. I am not mad at sharks, i never met one in my life, although i seriously doubt about that IRS lady.
Many animals have weird behaviours. We offer drinks, buy big cars and pick up flowers. And the strangest thing is that we find others peculiar.

Thank you for the invitation, but i don't like to dance. But i can sit or lie down very well. Take care.
 
I thought we were talking about CM's prophecy on the upcoming feminist shark revolution. Which is off course, talking about agressive-ness. :)
 
so what's the deal with shark sex?? care to explain Nomada?
 
:)

The male likes to bite the female during the pre-mating instance and depending on the species it can get more or less violent. They [she] often wears marks of previous biting behavior during mating.
I read, don't remember where, that in some species the male bites the female to turn her into her back. Sharks, don't know if all of them species, enter a state of dissociative trance if you're able to turn them upside down [this, by the way is extremely interesting]. So, the female sits quietly while the male enjoys...
Correct me someone please if I'm talking garbage.
I would feel interestingly feminist if the females got fed up of being bitten and left the male on their own...
 
5553b4442 a dit:
you based your opinion on what, more specifically ?
I started that sentence with "perhaps". It wasn't an opinion. I didn't even know what Nomada knew about the mating behaviour. I was just thinking of their sharp teeth.
[quote:2iad44sa]and human females don't mate with mean males ?
Even if what I wrote had been an opinion or theory, your question is irrelevant.
no shark ever knocked on my door to rob me or shoot me. humans might have done so.
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You're forgetting that there is much more diversity amongst male human beings than there is amongst male sharks. Some (especially those who are poor or have been mistreated or improperly guided in their youth) are cruel, but generally most male human beings are very sweet and friendly, especially during the mating process.
When I said "mean shark" I was referring to its physical strength and sharp teeth, and lack of playfulness (as compared to dolphins). I had read about partenogenesis a couple of years ago. Then it involved snakes (also in captivity).
I don't believe human beings in are more cruel than any other species, just selfish and stupid in a different way. All are concerned with reproduction, and all feed on other life forms. Every individual being, whether plant or human being, is inherently selfish, a selfishness that can only expand to "my family" and in some cases "my pack", "my tribe" or "my species". "Stupidity" also pervades all species, from moths flying into the flame and flies repeatedly banging their heads against a glass window, to human beings improving their scientific understanding but ruining the ecosystem in the process...
 
Well said, CM.
 
let's also not forget that male sharks can be extra mean, what with their double penises and all.
 
So, from what i understood, sharks are very mean because they have sharp teeth ?
Or because some females get some scars after copulation ? (something that some humans and countless species also have)
I am sorry, but i find this extremely ridiculous. We know about sharks from TV documentaries and internet articles, but, mysteriosly, we can say many things about them with extreme certainty. Tell me more, Monsieur Cousteau.
...perhaps this is a Spielberg forum ?
 
So, from what i understood, sharks are very mean because they have sharp teeth ?
No, you misunderstood.
Or because some females get some scars after copulation ?
Nope.
(something that some humans and countless species also have)
Right.
I am sorry, but i find this extremely ridiculous. We know about sharks from TV documentaries and internet articles, but, mysteriosly, we can say many things about them with extreme certainty.
What do you mean "with extreme certainty"? We're just speculating and joking about it. Did you go protesting when Dreamworks released the "Shark Tale" movie because it inaccurately portrays the behavior of sharks? Relax man.
 
I didn't know about DreamWorks releasing anything, fortunately, I occupy my time in an efficient manner.
Please, elaborate your answers, I don't think i am talking with a 5 year-old. And don't tell me your are joking, because your previous post is an attempt in being serious.
 
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