Questions

[Goran.Hrsak]

HEY MAN! YOU aren't telling the truth! In Canada you rally can't find peace in forest bout 20 kilometers away from City or Town? Everything is surrounded with places of entirely peace place and human silence just like human visits of such unexplored parts of Canada! :?:
Please explain your CAN'T FIND PEACE!? I am little buzz off with beer, wine, benzo, barbitudom, Spice and one personal medicine. Sorry. Lucid but Jesters in soul and heart.

Do not use Pedro as funny tripping drug but take that to the fine souly effects and acceptance you by plant and vice-versa!

Voyage in bigger company with various people isn't true way
Drug for Fun, :?:
OK you can use it first time and couple of more as inducer into way of Cacti.
But real WAY and every motive and wish must be produced from "the night off learning" , old Astral memory, something sacred must cacti sound and be sign :!:

 

[user_1919]

Goran, Goran. I am using this cactus to learn, it is my intent, you are misinterpurting me. I show a great deal of respect for such a substance, and recoginize the healing power that it can offer.

About the not being able to find a spot topic; I live in Southern Ontario. It is very industrilized with no natural areas. I am moving out to BC this fall, so I will have many oppourunitys to experience in natural setting. Also I will only be having the experience with one friend, and no one else will be there the entire time. We most likly won't be talking all to much, and we will be deep into our experience.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I respect you and all my friends over psynauts forum! But maybe my post were little bit harsh! No intentions to do that! Only true intentions were to show you how and where to use "San Pedro El Peyote"
I do not understand your saying bout having second or next time for Right Peyote-Pedro Experience!
You can't take some of the times Cacti Potion for fun and exploration and after that you will make and use it ritually or in the Right WAY!?!

I think that you are standing at the edge of Peyote religion-belief-WAYS and funny&boredom-killing spiritual drug use or abuse!
Sorry if I sound like offending idiot but I am believer in Peyote spiritual affection on our world just like my traditional ways of Peyote-Pedro using!
I have my cacti at the house green house, standing there over 3 years, 25 year old Peyotes, but I doesn't want to take them!, I am not ready, my ways aren't pure!, or shit load of others negative points between taking or leaving the cacti, Peyote cacti!
For fun I could find chemist or dealer with mescaline drops-pills and "use and feel" cacti in that kind of way! But that doesn't count as WAY and also is offending to the spirits of cacti! All this are my believes or explanation why and how I use Cacti substances. excepting c

IT FALLS ON YOU WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO AND WHAT YOU ARE! DECLARATION OF YOU LIKE TRUE PSYCHONAUT OR JUST DRUG-EUPHORIC-STONED LOOKING GUY.

This has been my words and questions what you are and meaning why and where you will use Cacti solution! Even if you are party-form user this would not affect my helping advices to you. Everyone will get my help especially bout cacti dilemmas or problems. SORRY IF I HAVE OFFENDED YOU IN ANY WAY, NOT MY INTENTION TO DO THAT, ONLY EXPLANATION FROM MY POINT OF WU.

PEACE
LIGHT
8) BLESS

 

[user_1919]

I do not understand your saying bout having second or next time for Right Peyote-Pedro Experience!

When did I say this. First experience, second experience, 20th experience, you should treat the substance with the same respect. I am not going into this to have fun, only to learn.

What is the correct way you say Goran to use this substance? My intentions were to consume the tea that I will have prepared, and then sit in my room that will be competely dark and silent.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[user_1919]

Hello again,

So I have my San Pedro chopped into 'stars', and they are in the freezer. I do not plan on preparing it until later this week, is it fine to keep stored in the freezer? Also when I do prepare the 'tea', how long can you store it in the fridge? Some sites say consume within 24 hours or capsulate, but I think it would be fine in the fridge, but I'm not sure and don't want to take any chances.

Also, I have put two San Pedro's into sand and tied them down to try and root them. Do they need any water at all? I read that all I do is put them into sand for 2-4 weeks to initiate the rooting process, and then transfer it into cactus soil.

Thanks,
PEACE & LOVE

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Mescaline is very steady alkaloid so you doesn't have any worries bout fridge, in fact cooler place is even better for preservation and storage!

Pedro cutting needs to be in shade, on newspaper. Not in sand! But I presume that TRUE sand like silica gel which doesn't have any or very low nutrition value can also be fine. Only bad thing is when you will remove cacti out of sand roots can sustain nice amount of damage! :!: :wink:

I have always place cutting on paper in shade on 20+5/-5C and after one week 12 days small structure like worms or something like been germs starts to come out of cacti. Also cacti needs some standard cutting size if you want successful propagation! The best is size is 15-20-30cm. This size abort only in 0,5%. Much smaller and also much bigger have higher abort percentage. Sand can be good when you use very small cuttings. Sand is protection layer form diseases and high humidity. NEVER, BUT NEVER WATER CACTI IN FIRST 50-60 days! GOLDEN RULE! CACTI DOESN'T NEED WATER CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE EFFECTIVE ROOTS OR ROOTS AT ALL!

 

[user_1919]

Ok, thanks Goran. So should I be fine with the cacti in sand? They are 30 cm cuttings.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I described why is better just paper, not sand. But if you have put your cacti in sand and it's there for some days, then OK. BUT FORGET WATER! Water-fiiju-out of mind!
PEACE
LIGHT
BLESS

 

[user_1919]

Mescaline is very steady alkaloid so you doesn't have any worries bout fridge, in fact cooler place is even better for preservation and storage!

Is this the same for prepared San Pedro tea? I will be using lemon juice in the extraction, so is there any risk of mold development?

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

I do not know NOW what frizzier means? You have two types of cooling! One is "normal" for milk,juice,lettuce,cooked food,vegetables,fruit,salami,sausages,butter,YOU GET THE POINT.
Temperature from 1-15C!
Second is "deep" true frizzier! For meat,fish,frozen vegetables&fruit,ice cream,ice.
Temperature from -20 to -1.

Molds can start to grow in "normal" frizzier but in "deep" no chance!
But I do not know how will alkaloids behave in freezing environment!?
This is why I do not like and use frizzing extraction method (cell breaking, my shit)

And why are you afraid of molds? I have used infected cakes many times. (After 4 flush, when cakes flush ability is 90% exploited, I make tea which is even better then 15grams trip. And every cake in the end lose ability to protect themselves from mold contamination like new ones so red, green, yellow, and even black molds appear. But no matter,I cook tea and drink it. No poisoning or such. Bad and fatal molds grow in can-tin or place without fresh air and oxygen!) You can always recook again Pedro's tea if you are afraid of mold toxic poisoning.:idea:

PEACE
LIGHT
BLESS

 

[user_1919]

Alright you aren't understand me right, but it's ok. I was talking about the prepared San Pedro tea. If I prepare it now, which I won't be consuming for 5 days, is there a chance it could go bad? The 'tea' will contain all the alkoids, so boiling the cactus material again will do me no good. I'm talking, if the actual 'tea' itself, can it go bad? I would be in a fridge, which is just cool, not freezing. Right now the Pedro are in a freezer, unprepared. (below 0C).

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

There should be no problems. Only thing is Pedro's potency. You never can know it. Especially if you grow it at home or buy it from web shop.

Hope that you will be lucky one.

 

[tryptonaut]

There should be no problems. Only thing is Pedro's potency. You never can know it. Especially if you grow it at home or buy it from web shop.

Hope that you will be lucky one.

I had good experiences with 30cm of home-grown and bought cactus (could still have been stronger, I guess, but it was strong enough to be a really worthwile trip). When I bought the cactus I didn't buy a 30cm piece because I thought this might have been grown only one year. I bought a 60cm piece because with that you can be sure it is at least 2 years old (and therefore stronger). If that makes sense, I hope?

 

[user_1919]

tryptonaunt what is your experience with preparing San Pedro? Which way would you say was the best?

PEACE & LOVE

 

[user_1919]

So I took the prepared San Pedro yesterday. I boiled it in water and lemon juice for 4 hours, boiled down, and then strained. The juice was left in water bottles over night, and the juice was even further reduced again to 9 shots. The 9 shots were taken and nasuea was experienced for the first 2 hours. Then a slight change in consciousness, no hallunications, and I was asleep after 5 hours. The overall experience was very weak, and not sure if it was the Marijuana high I was experiencing or maybe a light mescaline feel. What could I have done wrong in the preparation?

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

User you haven't done anything wrong! It's the cacti! I told this some time before! Cacti grown at home and shop one aren't good enough!
No mescaline in them!
Try to equalise LSD trip and this one! You can't! Because they can be even equal!

 

[user_1919]

Ok, but where I bought them, they said that it was grown on the coast of California.

http://www.ethnobotanysource.com/tricho ... vianus.htm

I still have 2 cacti left, is their any way I can increase the mescaline content in them? I'm am currently trying to root them both.

PEACE & LOVE

 

[Ultima]

hey man, i told you! you should have just parichuted em. but whatever, im done telling you i told you so and yeah, there is a way to increase potency, when you are growing them, make sure they root nice n good, and when your about to take them, do NOT water them for about a month. that will put strain on the cacti which makes it create more alkiloides. w00t w00t, then dry the stuff out, and parichuteeeeee... dont make tea. (id say tea only gets about 50-60% of the mesc out.)

 

[Lion]

hey man, i told you! you should have just parichuted em. but whatever, im done telling you i told you so and yeah, there is a way to increase potency, when you are growing them, make sure they root nice n good, and when your about to take them, do NOT water them for about a month. that will put strain on the cacti which makes it create more alkiloides. w00t w00t, then dry the stuff out, and parichuteeeeee... dont make tea. (id say tea only gets about 50-60% of the mesc out.)

just dry everything except the hard bitt in the middle, right?

People have also told me that there is some sort of green slime on the hard bitt where a lott of mescaline lies?

 

[Ultima]

yeah, you want to de-core the cacti, then de spine it. cut it into thin slices, and put it on some wax paper or something along those lines, then dry it out in a dark warm spot with lots of air flow. once its dry like incence put it in a coffee grinder, and parichute! i think that is the most effective way; in my oppinion anyway.