One Step Farther

[Caduceus Mercurius]

So, today, when my mother came home, I gave her a bunch of papers with evidence of the propaganda of cannabis.

She didn't even touch the papers.

She didn't listen to what I wanted to say.

It would probably have been better if you had left the information aside and just talk to her directly about your interests. Or indirectly: telling her you have become interested in mind expansion, reading about mysticism and psychology and a personal path of enlightenment. Or something like that. Then when you've got such a discussion going, touching upon the subject of shamanic plants will not throw up such a wall of resistance. Because then the parents know that you are not into 'drugs', but into healing and/or personal development. And parents love it when their children feel motivated about something, especially self-improvement.

 

[ProStoner]

it sounds to me like this mother does not know the slightest thing about your subjects CaduceusMercurius
it is true that getting a conversation going before throwing a person in the deep is better yes, but its important to know that this person probably doesn't know anything about all these things, so that would mean u would need to have a loong loong conversation, and probably more then 1 before u get someone warmed up for something like "hey btw i`m smoking pot"

I agree though on your idea only I think its a little harder and more complicated then the way you put it

 

[restin]

CM: We had some discussions, ending like that: "That's very interesting. But I hope that you don't take it, do you?"

Ok.

Update? Ok.

I am going underground again :wink:

I didn't expect that. When she came home, we first talked a bit, and she said she would read the papers. But at the same time she begged me to stop because it was a narcotic because she knew 2 guys using MJ who ended up being full fall-outs but that wasn't the main argument, that was that it was a narcotic. It was really hard for me, how she got emotional about that (I am already clear with the use of drugs for a long time, that's why such a reaction was very shocking to me).

Later on my father (psychiatrist) came to my room. Funny "discussion". He came in with the bunch of papers and said "Well, interested in propaganda, aren't we", sat down and started bla bla not convincing, in the internet you can find everything etc. He asked my why I used it. I said mind expansion. "Well, so you are not capable of learning about your mind without drugs like all the rest?" And started talking about that people using drugs are running away from their problems and it was a clear indication that he already signed me as mentally-ill when he found out. I repeated my reason. He just said that the mind likes to make up wrong reasons to cover the real ones.

BTW: about Schizophrenia he said that well, the evidence was not 100% but a lot of his patients were using it. I argued against that, that he knew only few of the patients and the answer wasn't very clear.

At the end he talked about my responsibility for my family members...

Half an hour later my mom came in and asked if I wanted help...

It is getting amusing. Stigmatisation is more fun than I thought. My only problem now is that I somehow must build up plans how I can consume my new-bought vaporizer without them seeing that. But that's another story.

Thank you all for the positive energy!

 

[Caduceus Mercurius]

I understand. But it's basically the way I did it half a year ago, and I think it's along the same lines that Mara introduced the matter (shrooms) to her parents. Of course cannabis, "marijuana", has a worse reputation amongst (certain) parents I guess. They can link marijuana to delinquent youths, but who exactly eats shrooms? When I was a teenager my father was very negative about cannabis and threatened us with punishment. So when I started smoking pot when I was 15 I didn't tell anyone, not even my mother. I grew weed in the garden and smoked it for two years, and neither my mother nor father had any idea what I was doing, until I told them when I was 18 and had that unfortunate Datura on acid incident...

 

[GOD]

Keep your humor . Keep distance and dont get into playing a for or against game with them . Be patient and take your time . Dont bombard them with facts or arguments . Its like with children , the best way to argue with them is just carry on as you are , be honest and dont argue . If you dont argue you can loose arguments .

 

[GOD]

"Datura on acid incident"

Thats how my mom found out about me taking drugs . I was walking round naked screaming and shouting , swearing at people who werent there .

 

[restin]

Thanks, happy of not being alone.

Keep your humor .

I will, although it is a quite bitter and sarcastic one, it keeps me smiling.

Ah yeah and the talk of my father about drugusers as being all mentally ill I had a funny vision about all psychonaut.com visitors You know, such a group of ill guys and girls, everyone with a mad stare, nervous laugh, sitting at their PCs...

 

[Carebear]

"Datura on acid incident"

Thats how my mom found out about me taking drugs . I was walking round naked screaming and shouting , swearing at people who werent there .

Holy crap :lol:


My parents first caught me and a friend smoking maryjane when the smoke alarm went off, in the middle of the night. Had to 'slam dunk' it from the sealing :+

 

[ProStoner]

well I guess its a good thing that they took time to sit down and talk to you about this "problem"

and u can't expect them to accept it any time soon (but i'm sure u know that aswell)

maybe making some compromises would be good, like i'll show u that its not affecting me in school or work or what you are doing at the moment.

and show them that it has made u a better person even

telling them that u realize everything they say could be possible also helps
often when u disagree on something, they think u don't understand or that u don't want to listen.

I think that they will be more eager to listen to you then