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Non-local consciousness - a mid-sized questionnaire.

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IJesusChrist a dit:
A very good subconscious, and intelligent one, can 'read' a person with minimal conversation - on top of this it can create an understanding of a person, and persons in a group. Thusly, the subconscious makes a network, and ok yeah I really don't know what I'm getting at... like always.

I completely agree. We all have the same cells in our head.. the neurons, synapses.. Really, what separates us other than physical space? You might say we are just one giant networked brain with 6 billion nodes, communicating information at the speed of verbal speech and written text (and media) and yes body language.

This is why I have a hard time with the first question, I want to answer both, although I feel inclined to answer the first. The process of consciousness happening as billions of neurons sharing information with some sort of continuous feedback loop, yet, the individual parts unaware of the whole. The human race, billions of us experiencing the same phenomenon, constantly sharing information, can a form of awareness develop and exist on some completely different scale as well?

Perhaps a 'subconscious' network(?) Many humans have an anthropomorphized God. They are raised with this idea frequently from birth, and over time they assign this God certain qualities, certain personality traits even. You might say this God is almost like their intuition--a part of their psyche running unchecked by their day to day conscious mind that they pose questions to and turn for guidance to. And they feed this unchecked internal process with information from the external world.. in the form of religious books, sermons, talks with friends about the nature of God, etc.. and this external information much more readily bypasses the firewall of day to day critical thought and goes straight back into this unchecked internal process. To me that's very much like a subconscious network of human thought developing over the generations.. evolving, growing, adapting, changing.. Maybe I take the analogy a bit too far here, I am still waking up this Monday morning myself :D
 
Experience separates us.

Here people say "we are the same" in other threads the same people say "you have to experience it for yourself".

Pick one.

If you really have to experience it for yourself, what separates us is our experiences.
 
at the same time everyone has to experience it for him/herself. People can be the same without them knowing it.
 
Ahh. I just had a stroke of infight reading your post St.Bot.

The earth is an organism, and we are the cells, we communicate, we express things. Oh wow.

:) Aren't revelations great?

This ones streaming to me:

Gaia, the earth, whatever you want to call it, has evolved for a long time, but in no particular direction (although there should be - deep underneath what we see, there should be an evident path). We, as humans, have become very intelligent, and actually seperated ourselves from each other - creating our individualism, our want, need, and eventual acceptance of we are all individuals with purpose. As we have become greater in number, and our encounters become exponentially greater - we have been communicating more and more. We are realizing that we are all, in fact, one organism... but, really nobody actually 'sees' this - it's just a kind of feeling, a love for togetherness. But we encounter one another so often, and our conscious and subconscious have grown so vast as well that we are now communicating so much more, Damnit I lost it.

Damnit. I hate that, I get an idea, its running through me like a film, and once its over - its over. I have to wait till it comes again.

What I always take away from this is how shatteringly different our individualism that has been molded from society is to that of how we are all humans, all part of this small planet, and how we have basically come to communicate everything we know. There is no drama anymore, there is no deceit, there is no status, that has all been learned by some sort of education - it's not a true value... God damnit why are my thoughts so cloudy... Sorry guys, I wish I could communicate what I wanted better.
 
same same but different!!! :D we are part of the earth consciousness, yet separated to experience individually etc. but also we ARE separated to live our purpose and if we haven't found a purpose, find the purpose and then live the purpose?? who knows...
maybe we need to be positive for our mother planet and help her, just by being positive and therefore creating positivity for ourselves and our mother planet... because why would we want to destroy or entoxicate our environments in which we and others live??? makes no sense really... only when you are sick of course... when society has made you sick or you have made yourself sick thru society... which probably wouldn't make much of a difference anyway tho... ??? but i dunno...

and to the theoretic part: i think too that we have control over the level of conscious awareness that we can use to be aware of well maybe almost anything...


peace :weedman:
 
st.bot.32 a dit:
The human race, billions of us experiencing the same phenomenon, constantly sharing information, can a form of awareness develop and exist on some completely different scale as well?

i think it already has. look at facebook and the likes...

st.bot.32 a dit:
...a part of their psyche running unchecked by their day to day conscious mind that they pose questions to and turn for guidance to. And they feed this unchecked internal process with information from the external world.. in the form of religious books, sermons, talks with friends about the nature of God, etc.. and this external information much more readily bypasses the firewall of day to day critical thought and goes straight back into this unchecked internal process. To me that's very much like a subconscious network of human thought developing over the generations.. evolving, growing, adapting, changing.. Maybe I take the analogy a bit too far here, I am still waking up this Monday morning myself :D

i dont think you've taken anything too far, in fact i think you hit the nail on the head. although it's not like, it is. if you'd like something to ponder in regards to the subconscious mind. consider the influx of ad propaganda, and subliminal suggestion (even things as simple as a hairstyle) from simple tv shows,and it's effect on the mind, or the group mind in most clicks of people. also, as every year passes, the exponential ease at which we are fed it, and have access to it, increases. imagine what effect that has on the mind, especially in regards to networks of people, or groups of friends online. you cannot visit a webpage without some sort of ad to store in your mind (for a possible later use? i suppose that's the idea... :? )

ijesuschrist a dit:
We are realizing that we are all, in fact, one organism... but, really nobody actually 'sees' this - it's just a kind of feeling, a love for togetherness. But we encounter one another so often, and our conscious and subconscious have grown so vast as well that we are now communicating so much more, Damnit I lost it.

our consciousness is evolving. we trade some of our qualitative experiences (firsthand, in person) with quantitative (internet) ones to increase our general pool of "experience." there's a trade off though. personal opinion from someone you dont even know.. things are taken literally that shouldn't. things that are wrong become common "knowledge." the "fact" that daddy long leg spiders are lethal is a farce... that's just the nature of the double edged sword though i suppose, as i formed all my opinions from the same place that made people start wearing skinny jeans and eyeliner... :retard:

it's almost to the point though, where people need to be taught how to use it. no, it is to that point, fuck. and it makes me sad that little children, cute, naive, impressionable children, our future, is being released upon this deluge, and they know not what to do. the generation before them has done little in the way of guiding them through this treacherous framework, not to be pessimistic as i know im now ranting, but i think we really need to be mindful of this new facet of humanity...

ijesuschrist a dit:
...how we have basically come to communicate everything we know. There is no drama anymore, there is no deceit, there is no status, that has all been learned by some sort of education - it's not a true value...

have you given that anymore thought? i'd like to know where that was going, if it should come to you again..

braineater a dit:
i think too that we have control over the level of conscious awareness that we can use to be aware of well maybe almost anything...

self awareness gives you that control, it's a perpetual cycle. i'm very interested and curious at how that plays into this scenario.
 
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