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"Mutual Respect"

  • Auteur de la discussion Auteur de la discussion Forkbender
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You are exaggerating.
 
Caduceus, an example not involving GOD.

In the thread "drugs and the paranormal" you said:

Wow, both took a deliriant, and both lost touch with reality!!
What are the odds of that happening?!

maybe I am crazy but I read some sarcasm in that, seems not respectfull to me.

I then on purpose put a case on the forum concerning ayahuasca, and had a feeling you was one of the first ones to react giving the answer:

That's about a trained ayahuascero. It's their business to perform such feats. There's nothing delusional or coincidental about that incident. Difficult to explain from a Cartesian-Newtonian point of view, but not impossible from a transpersonal, hyperdimensional or holographic perspective.

I think that this is not really scientifical and a biased opinion.

Maybe people in general like to see what they want to see.

I think the freedom of speech giving people the idea that they can say everything but also should be respected by everyone. Maybe it better not to want to give an opinion on everything. Sometimes it’s just better to shut up and humble yourself.

I also have a feeling that GOD says certain things just to create some argue, and it wouldn’t be my way of dealing with things, but on the other hand it’s good that to look with criticism
to our own opinions. If your opinion still survives this you should not feel insulted to something someone else say.
 
Jahvisions a dit:
maybe I am crazy but I read some sarcasm in that, seems not respectfull to me.
Sarcasm, perhaps, but no disrespect for the person writing that. Disrespect for deliriants (the effects of which I have experienced myself), yes, but not for the person who started that topic.

I then on purpose put a case on the forum concerning ayahuasca, and had a feeling you was one of the first ones to react giving the answer:
Again, no disrespect towards you, and it was a sincere answer, based on my reading about Amazonian shamanism in books like The Jaguar That Roams The Mind, which I finished about three weeks ago. I also recall such examples mentioned in Jeremy Narby's Cosmic Serpent. Scientific or not, shamans live in a world where such paranormal phenomena are pretty commonplace. There are also indications that psychedelics ingested under the proper circumstances tend to induce paranormal experiences in Western users. Such experiences are impossible from the Cartesian-Newtonian viewpoint, but not from the point of view of the new sciences. That's all I wanted to express.
 
I didn't answer the question, because I'm tired of this discussion.

You win, GOD is SATAN.

And now what? Let's finally talk about how we can coexist peacefully instead of feeling triggered by others.
 
Forkbender a dit:
And now what? Let's finally talk about how we can coexist peacefully instead of feeling triggered by others.

We can't. We can respect each other, but someones always going to say or do something to annoy or anger someone else, which will lead to conflict. If everything co-existed peacefully all the time, we would all believe, act and think in the same way, which would create a society of mindless drones.

People have got to have different opinions and argue over them. We can all be friends but I think that we should be able to have a chance to fight for our thoughts, but its up to you to accept and respect them without mindlessly insulting people.
 
What I mean is that if you are confronted with something you don't agree with, you don't blame someone else for it, but just take it for another opinion.
 
Forkbender a dit:
What I mean is that if you are confronted with something you don't agree with, you don't blame someone else for it, but just take it for another opinion.

Ah, true.
 
Forkbender a dit:
I didn't answer the question, because I'm tired of this discussion.
Then why did you start this topic, and why are you a moderator?

In the past year there have been significant conflicts between:

me and GOD
druglessdouglas and GOD
mysticwarrior and GOD
HeartCore and GOD
magickmumu and GOD
Ahuayenjxs and GOD
etc.

Some of these members have started to post a whole lot less than they used to. Some are gone now, or post rarely.

There have not been significant and lasting conflicts between me and any of the members mentioned above, or amongst the other members (with the possible exception of drugless and Ahuayenjxs). No significantly disrespectful exchanges, no derogatory words used.

You couldn't answer the question because there have not been consistent conflicts between other members. Every single time people got upset and threatened to leave the forum, it has involved GOD.

As MysticWarrior said in the thread on which this one is based, unless this is truly resolved and the site owner and moderators take responsibility for the atmosphere of this forum, these dynamics will continue and intelligent, enthusiastic contributers will again and again take prolonged breaks or leave altogether, or simply censor themselves by posting only half as much as they would otherwise do.
 
Forkbender a dit:
And now what? Let's finally talk about how we can coexist peacefully instead of feeling triggered by others.
OK

Let's look at the forum rules from another entheogenic site (which has many moderators) and see if it contains ideas that could be implemented into ours.

BASIC BOARD RULES

We have 5 positive,
and 5 negative
Primary Rules.

First,
the positives.

1. You must be an adult,
and act like one while here.

2. You must be polite
and treat people here with respect
and with tolerance for diversity.

3. You must come with good intent,
to share and learn and give and grow.

4. You must be of good character.

5. You must abide by all board policies.


Next,
the negatives.

1. You must not post obscene, pornographic, offensive nor gory materials.

2. You must not spam.

3. You must not decieve nor defraud your fellow members in trades, in the marketplace forum, etc.

4. You must not resort to insults and personal attacks upon people here
for any reason.

5. You must not post anything racist, violent, hateful, intolerant, untrue or illegal .

Violating these rules can result in your immediate and permanent banning from the site.

"How must I conduct myself in the forums?"

We require a civil polite mature respectful attitude from all posters.

"What happens if I decide to start trouble?"

[This forum] is a PEACEFUL online community of like-minded individuals
who come together to share friendship, information, experiences
and ideas. If you decide to challenge the peaceful nature of the forums
you will quickly find the moderators are unsympathetic to your cause.

There is Zero tolerance for Poor conduct in the forums.

Moderators Have the authority and the ability to:

* Warn you if your posting is not appropriate.
* Delete your post(s) if the content is deemed derogatory, obscene, or of no positive value.
* Ban you temporarily from [this forum].
* Ban you permanently from [this forum].

People do make mistakes, and the Moderators here understand that completely.
We just ask that you think before you post.
The Moderators are here to serve you, to protect the integrity
of the site, and to ensure [this forum] is a place where we are free
to learn what we desire without aggression, intimidation
or unwarranted negativity.

Respect others, and they will respect you in turn.


"Some jerk is Calling me names, I'm pissed and wanna rumble!"

Don't do it. If some wise-ass starts trouble with you, report the
thread to a moderator a.s.a.p. Just because he started something
with you does NOT mean that you should finish it. The moderators will
not take your side simply because you felt provoked and defended yourself.

Keep this in mind: If you take matters into your own hands and decide to
retaliate by posting negative material, you are further disrespecting the
integrity and sanctity of the the board. Now, instead of just one jerk
posting garbage, there are two. So Please, don't fly off the hook when
provoked by a bully because you think your cause is just.
At the time, it may seem that you are hurting no-one, but any post
that compromises the Peaceful nature of [this forum] hurts us all.

Please think before you post, no matter what the situation.


"Is cursing, profanity or obscene language acceptable ?"
We prefer that folks restrain themselves from excessive unwarranted use of profanity. We reserve the right to edit posts we feel fail to meet this guideline. The occasional 'hell' or 'damn' or even 'fuck' is ok in appropriate situations, but don't make it a habit every other word or two.


"Gender and Obscene and Racist jokes are my favorites, Do you like them to?"

Good for you, keep them to yourself as they are not tolerated here.
Anything posted in bad taste will be extremely unappreciated and
handled as such. Be nice around here, and you will gain love and respect
much quicker than you can say "I'm sorry..."
 
Forkbender a dit:
I'm tired of this discussion.

You win, GOD is SATAN.

And now what? Let's finally talk about how we can coexist peacefully instead of feeling triggered by others.
 
Did you repost Forkbender's words, without adding anything to them, on purpose?
 
yes, because I have nothing to add. I am sorry that you feel like you do.
 
"Some jerk is Calling me names, I'm pissed and wanna rumble!"

Don't do it. If some wise-ass starts trouble with you, report the
thread to a moderator a.s.a.p. Just because he started something
with you does NOT mean that you should finish it. The moderators will
not take your side simply because you felt provoked and defended yourself.

Keep this in mind: If you take matters into your own hands and decide to
retaliate by posting negative material, you are further disrespecting the
integrity and sanctity of the the board. Now, instead of just one jerk
posting garbage, there are two. So Please, don't fly off the hook when
provoked by a bully because you think your cause is just.
At the time, it may seem that you are hurting no-one, but any post
that compromises the Peaceful nature of [this forum] hurts us all.

That's what I have been saying in every single discussion on this topic. I have receive 0 (ZERO) pm's from people saying I should take action against GOD without those same people doing the exact same thing that they blame GOD for.
 
That quote should be in forum rules imo.
 
I don't think there is a need to take action against god.
or to keep opening topics about him.
 
who is opening topics about him?
I'm not.

:wink:
 
I think everyone who takes all this to heart spends too much time here.
 
restin a dit:
yes, because I have nothing to add.
Did you read the last post on the previous page? Because I also quoted Forkbender's words, but did have something to add. Examples of better forum rules.
 
Forkbender a dit:
who is opening topics about him?
I'm not.
Then why exactly do you want to discuss the mutual respect rule?
 
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