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the true test to sanity is to accept that we all are insane.

The true test is are you still able to recognize other people's inquires and respond to that, or do you hide in bad poetry without ever touching even one of the issues.

I submit to you, it's the latter. You failed the test.
 
and i thought scientology was coockoo
 
It seems that there are many more coockoo poeple around there on the internet :D
 
i get migrane if i think about it :x
 
I embraced my migraine to overcome it. I do believe things happens to me for a good reason. I lived by that mind-set for 1 year, and it learned me to see clear.

Im a lazy guy, so lazy I learned magic to survive, cause otherwise how can we truly be alive? :ninja:

- Enivid
 
Interesting website.. I remember reading 12th planet books like 10 years ago and never knew a religion actually was springing out of them. Sorta like mr Hubbard for the 21st century I guess :D I'd probably find them unreadable now.

I have a love/hate relationship with conspiracy theories and odd belief systems. On the one hand, you are not participating in mass consensual reality (hopefully by choice, not coerced or born into it, dare I say the b word: brainwashed). On the other hand, this is very much related to the roots of creativity, art, theatre, literature etc. Creativity and schizophrenia are more than frequently but a hair's breadth away, and much of the deepest artwork, theatrical performances, etc, basically requires eccentricity and a measure of self-programming in its creation. It is from these extremes that we learn much about the nature of the human spirit.

On the other hand again, I grew up in a bizarre Christian spinoff religion where people believed the end would come at some point (sort of rapture/judgement combo styles). The end result was that true believers, who would agree that it is bad to pollute the environment, support sweatshop slave labor etc did nothing to actually improve the world because they thought God would solve all their problems at some point. So they worked exclusively to propagate their belief, because in doing so they thought they were saving the world. And hence they were wasting their time (in my view).

2012 for me? Well I hope to mark the ritual probably by getting very loaded with friends on Dec 31st, 2011.. and there will no doubt be much humor and banter between the Daniel Pinchbeck-heads and the skeptics like me who still get a kick out of it :D
 
Sometimes overt eccentric’s that take something way out of context and follow some kind of occult tangent ruin the premise or the ability to discuss it for the rest of us.
 
mysticwarrior a dit:
It seems that there are many more coockoo poeple around there on the internet :D

Coockoo group 1)

It was come to our attention that at the 21st of december, Jatamaluta comes down from Herabotusa (a tiny planet in a nearby solar system, not yet discovered by us). At the 22nd of december 2012, he will take us all in his holy rowing boat and fly away from the earth while the earth goes up in flames and explodes in tiny particles. blown out all over the universe.

Coockoo group 2)

It was channeled to us that on the 23rd of december 2012, or mistress Lalajakutta comes back. She has been resting on the inside of the moon while waiting for that day. On the 24th of december, she will lift us all up for a few minutes, then lay down a new layer of nature on the earth and put us down again to live in peace ever after.

Coockoo group 1 and 2 are having a ball partying with coockoo group3 and 4 and 5 while arguing against coockoo group 6 which believes something that's even too far out for the other coockoo groups to believe in.

This is basically the state of the UFO, 2012, Moslim and Christian communities. Nobody seems to wonder about the obvious paradox that all these believe system cancel primary pars of each other out if they where true.
 
buffachino a dit:
Sometimes overt eccentric’s that take something way out of context and follow some kind of occult tangent ruin the premise or the ability to discuss it for the rest of us.

Indeed...
 
There is an old thread here about 2012:

http://www.psychonaut.com/index.php?opt ... =0&lang=en

In those posts the whole thing was debunked; I think this link summarizes it nicely:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/autopsy.html

Matthew Watkins a dit:
The Conclusion

So we see that the value of w(k) cannot be determined from the local geometry of the six-levelled object in a neighbourhood of k. The "collapse mechanism" built into the formula is clearly k-dependent. Therefore we see that not only is the inclusion of the "half twist" failing to guarantee the "preservation" of some geometric property to which McKenna has referred, but the failure is precisely because of its inclusion. McKenna's stated reason for this (crucial) step of the construction is unacceptable. As a mathematician who has met and talked with him, who is sympathetic with the majority of his other work, and who is only interested in spreading clarity, I must conclude that the "timewave" cannot be taken to be what McKenna claims it is.

Is interesting to note that the mathematician discussed his analysis with McKenna (from the same page):

Matthew Watkins a dit:
Terence and I had four lengthy, good natured, and most enjoyable discussions during the week I was in Palenque, and I was able to explain my critique step-by-step. By the final discussion he seemed to have fully grasped the nature of the problem, and had admitted that the theory appeared to have "no basis in rational thought". He claimed (and this struck me as sincere) that he was only interested in the truth, and that someone "disproving" the theory was just as a much of a relief to him as someone confirming its validity. He proposed that we collaborate on a piece provisionally entitled "Autopsy for a Mathematical Hallucination" in which we would carefully take the theory apart and see what had gone wrong. He claimed that I was the first person to approach him with a serious mathematical critique of his ideas, partly explaining why such an unjustifiable theory had not only survived for so long, but also attracted so much interest and attention.

For additional context, the man himself (from this interview):

Terence McKenna a dit:
[...] Predicting the future is no challenge to anybody because who can rule you out of bounds? I think that, based on its ability to predict the past, judged by the ordinary ways we judge predictive success, that the timewave should be taken seriously. It isn't a mystical doctrine, and I don't defend it with mystical arguments. I put it forward as an exotic scientific hypothesis to be tested and overthrown by the usual methods.

I think is important to throw this out there for people who maybe need to fasten the ropes of their Wishful Thinking kite. Because yes, we are in this game that anything is possible but the game certainly has its rules.
 
buffachino a dit:
Sometimes overt eccentric’s that take something way out of context and follow some kind of occult tangent ruin the premise or the ability to discuss it for the rest of us.

Well, it depens on what kind of hacker you are... ;)

:weedman:
 
And for the record (again) I don't argue - I'm too lazy to repeat something that's been said over and over. ;) Fantasy is king.
 
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shame the callendars all got messed up. well never know what year 2012 is
 
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