Mesc extract problems

[GOD]

The method above is stupid . The guy keeps talking about "green slime" , "chlorophyll etc. which is gumming up the stuff" , " gunge" , " resinous junk and natural surfactents" and "emulsions" . His problems with those all come because he has used methanol and because he hasnt defatted . If one does it that way it takes ages , is expensive , is dificult and the return isnt much diferent than if one did a simple A/B extraction . The chemicals one needs to do that method need to be pure and not things that are freeely available in shops .

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

As I sad before posting it, This is old recipe, maybe 15 year old. even before Pedro talk here on this forum!! Before Pedro flesh in Azarius shop!!
Do U know that 4 years ago no one knows bout Pedro here!! Or no one talked bout it!?!?
So can U imagine how old is that recipe and how "wise" and "knowledgeable" such guy must be when he knows bout Pedro!
I remember first Pict and description of Pedro in Azarius. Pict with desert and bunch of old Pedro's(or other similar cacti) and talks bout new discovery, new way how to get mescaline and how easy now that shale be??

DOES SOMEONE REMEMBER?? :?:

 

[GOD]

Not another Psychonuts big dick contest but i first read about it and extraction teks was in the 70s . The first time i saw seeds for sale in psychedelic suply shops was in Germany at the start of the 90s . I started growing them in 2000 .

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

OK U have something like 35++years. I am 24 years old.
And believe me, Pedro flesh and seeds hasn't been available until some 6 years ago (not 4,my mistake, years pass me by :wink: ). Just look in the cacti thread when has someone posted something bout Pedro! 4-5 years ago.
What I am telling, Pedro was mystery until 2002-2004 in bigger circle of psychedelic users. I had knowledge bout him but no one other here in Croatia hasn't. Just like Croats, people here on this forum also were distant from Pedro knowledge, so I don't want even to speak bout growing knowledge before 2002!
Also my natural mescaline production repertory (other cacti beside Peyote) expand in 17-18 years of oldens.


And this is not "big dick contest" my friend. :wink: Only question.
One other thing, if new and very likely young members post query like "what is your first drug, second and so on which U tried" or "what is name-size-color of E with biggest memory impact and what U think what is in them" or similar questions-discussions which we all has gone trough years ago. Why should we fuck them off them cause such questions are "nonsense" to us? I think that this forum is dead. Really dead.
Thinking to switch on some other. Also thinking that maybe 50% of members slipped away too. Or am I wrong? Cause discussion flow has dropped to minimal number.

Or maybe this is reason, young people doesn't have urge like we to discover and open theirs perception and solve or heal themselves from problems and various "lets say fears" (fear is only change word for any other word like joker in poker). Cocaine, alcohol, dope and pills has taken bigger role in young lives or simplified: easier is to run away from shit then eat it (psydelics have high role in solving shits and opening to yourself but such way is "eating shit").
Bunch of community circles call psydelics in this bright new global world as "bad taste" of life style! Fucking shit! Psydelics are "bad taste"? Life style? What am I(we)? Barby doll on fashion strip? What those people thinks? That we take psy for fun? Like some kind fun drug? There is some truth in that but can someone use psy's for 10 days like coke-dope-pills?
What other people thinks doesn't bothers me, I do not give a fuck, but I never judge them! Our world has changed, battles from old fields has moved into personal battlefields. Scorn flashing from hidden part of eye, idiot box (I am calling TV like that) idolizing some people who doesn't have any significant value and mob smoke that, wild lust for "brand" without any true value. I do not know, really do not know. Does someone know? Cause I really doesn't know, really.

 

[GOD]

I dont understand what you are talking about , or why , or what you want to know or get cleared up .

Who is fucking who off ? When ? How ? Whos judging who ? When ? Where ?

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

Speaking from observers face. Where are new members? When I have first time register myself here there were bout 20 of us. I heard everybody and spoke with everyone bout same thing maybe 100 times. Now such post are ignored.

And what is happening with everything in our surroundings. Starting with this forum, disgusting look on psydelics&psychonauts from community and everything bout it(shamanism and psy-drugs).Sorry, I am talking craps. Do not listen to me.

 

[GOD]

What i see :-

A few years ago there were hours on end when no one was logged in , now half an hour is a long time . There were days at a time when no no new members joined . There were rarely more than 3 - 4 or 5 people logged in at a time , now often theere are up to 12 people logged in at a time . There were a maximum of 80 posts a week , now it goes up above 200 every week . It used to be that people talked endless subjective crap about fantasy trips = ones they hadnt realy had . There was little advice given , just people talking about drinkink fruit juice to geta better trip and subjective fantasy shit like that . Now we have people like Spice and others giving sound chemistry advice . BlimeyGrimey and others giving good , well founded mushroom growing advice . People like Drugless giving realy good all round experience and advice from physics to biology to trip psychology to meditation ? We have women here now and they take part as equals , give advice and offer new perspectives . The site has changed and got much better , more helpfull , more factual and now we have discussions about absolutely everything . The site is working , the site is doing well and it is growing .

 

[druglessdouglas]

Goran.Hrsak i think that younger people are just not as interested (as you said) in learning. its certainly true where i live. now everybody just wants "pills" and they arent interested in what is in them. they want convenience, and to escape from what is real. it is sad

and: i wont answer a post unless i have something to add. i still read them all and absorb as much as i can. sometimes you have to search through a lot of shit to find the diamonds

 

[Goran.Hrsak]

That is point I wish it to make. druglessdouglas and God, U are true. God, U sad bout upper level of this forum, new advancement. That we are riding knowledge road. But have U looked what we are talking about? Some hard core procedures which can only fine lab to do such a thing! BUT Also some of them are capable to be done in kitchen, yes they are.
Other thing what bothers me. I am "advance psynaut" Advanced in minor way, I'm not beginner and know some things, no I am not advanced psynaut cause past year I haven't done nothing special. Nothing to make my "being" better then before. I could say degradation instead improvement in "shamanic" way! Even forgotten or stop practicing knowledge which has my past grandma give to me. She has been "copornica" or "witch", "El bruho" or "Village medicine man" with vast knowledge bout herbs, potions, gels, greases-ointment, "higher" animals and insects in healing use, cleaning, soul "atonement", restoring and protecting-threats resist. Fortune telling from coffee cups, bean, reading palm, reading something from trowing bones-"dices"-spilling blood on that and similar grouse acts (grouse but fantastically interesting). She was midwife also. Told me and teach me trough years, show me some books with recipe which are now mine, explaining forces of nature and balance in her. Stories bout unnatural beings wondering trough Hrvatsko Zagorje. One part of Croatia near Slovenian border. Also other stuff but I think that I have told enough? And now? I lost interest in biggest force which has pushed me into "psychonautic" world.

Will tell more bout subject we are talking bout. But I need some stimuli questions or observations.

Peace.